[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by vishnugs

Vibzez, the speed tests were taken in the third and fourth gears -

Basically

Speeds-----------------Getz-----Swift
20-80 (3rd Gear)----13.06s----11.96s
40-100 (4th Gear)---16.05s----14.14s

How contradictory. OD has these timings:

Speeds-----------------Getz-----Swift
20-80 (3rd Gear)----11.93s----13.99s
40-100 (4th Gear)---14.46ss----14.52s

How confusing will that be to a reader who reads both the mags.

[vibzez]

Originally Posted by vid6639

How contradictory. OD has these timings:

Speeds-----------------Getz-----Swift
20-80 (3rd Gear)----11.93s----13.99s
40-100 (4th Gear)---14.46ss----14.52s

How confusing will that be to a reader who reads both the mags.

I know what you mean Bro., I read both the mags too.

[jassi]

uhhhm I am confused now
maybe the drivers of one magazine suck at driving getz and the other suck at driving a swift

[rohan_fonseca]

Originally Posted by vid6639

How contradictory. OD has these timings:

Speeds-----------------Getz-----Swift
20-80 (3rd Gear)----11.93s----13.99s
40-100 (4th Gear)---14.46ss----14.52s

How confusing will that be to a reader who reads both the mags.

That sounds much more realistic comparing the pwr/wt ratio.

[Steeroid]

Originally Posted by vid6639

How contradictory. OD has these timings:

Speeds-----------------Getz-----Swift
20-80 (3rd Gear)----11.93s----13.99s
40-100 (4th Gear)---14.46ss----14.52s

How confusing will that be to a reader who reads both the mags.

One of them is lying, and with the Getz having 35% more power and almost the same advantage in Torque, it isnt hard to find out who.

I havent read the whole article, but I understand the Swift 'won' over the Getz because of 1 or 2 kmpl more in Economy, which I think is bovine excreta. If they had rated the Swift ahead on stuff like handling and more importantly pricing, it makes sense.

But such is the state of affairs in the Auto Journalism scene in India that you cannot rely on any one of them. They all have their 'favourites'.

[BUSA]

But such is the state of affairs in the Auto Journalism scene in India that you cannot rely on any one of them. They all have their 'favourites'.

Its a rule in Indian Automotive Journalism, the cheaper car wins, case in point Chevy UVA BSMotorings Car of the Year

[Elito11]

Originally Posted by Steeroid

I havent read the whole article, but I understand the Swift 'won' over the Getz because of 1 or 2 kmpl more in Economy, which I think is bovine excreta.

ROTF!!!

And i totally agree! SOme of these mags are plain rubbish!!

Elito

[vishnugs]

Originally Posted by Steeroid

I havent read the whole article, but I understand the Swift 'won' over the Getz because of 1 or 2 kmpl more in Economy, which I think is bovine excreta. If they had rated the Swift ahead on stuff like handling and more importantly pricing, it makes sense.

Hi Sterroid, somehow, I have a feeling that you have a strong bias for Getz in your posts (I may be wrong though). I read the entire article and ACI definitely did not focus much about the FE part. It will be even more informative and productive if we all discuss things keeping the bias off ( no offense pls, thats my personal take).

[Anju]

I think most of the folks are always biased towards Maruti Swift.
Apart from brand, I think one major factor that goes with Swift is Price which is SO much important to buyers in India. Even Homa Sorabji of Autocar India(CNBCTV18 Auto Show) gives biased views. Since he loves Swift he talks about good of Swift while not cribbing about minuses too much. Where as for Getz all the minuses(especially price) are higlighted with lot of noise. So it depends which one you like, then you talk for that...

But Getz may not be for masses, it could for niche segment who loves power. Agreed, it should have had GLS features, agreed it should've had ABS option. I think Hyundai too did bad job with that. It has VGT and they never use that in advertisment. Had maruti had VGT then everyone would have known by now. DDiS launch reached so well to common man where as only geeks like us knows the CRDI-VGT. Does anyone remember Sania with Getz ? and now deilvery of the Getz D only in Jan-08 last week or by 2nd week Feb-08 !!. Now thats very bad from Hyundai ain't it ?

I admire DDiS Fiat engine of Swift,its color options,handling,good variants and thats pretty much it.
I love CRDI VGT,space,built/ride quality,better ergonomics. But not happy with how Hyndai is killing this car by bad promos,delivery time,lack of good variants(GLS,ABS etc).
If I were Hyundai I would've launched Ex shr. 5.45-GVS, 5.65-GLS, 5.9 GLX but Hyundai doesn't think it cant make profit with above pricing -.

After all these discussion, I feel All odds are agianst Getz D to sell like Swift(most of odds created by Hyundai).
It might find only niche customers before i20 (gets another Getz fate if Hyundai manages the way its doing now) story kicks it out in 2009.

cheers
Anju

[king_julian]

I'd gone to Sanjay Hyundai this weekend to check out the i10 and while I was talking to the salesperson I also asked him about the Getz Diesel. He said that none of the dealerships in Pune have received the Getz Diesel and that it has only been launched in a few cities like Delhi.

[arunphilip]

Originally Posted by PatienceWins

I learnt from reliable source in hyundai that ABS option will be added soon, like they did for Accent/ Verna.

Any ideas of timings, PatienceWins?

[ported_head]

Originally Posted by Steeroid

But such is the state of affairs in the Auto Journalism scene in India that you cannot rely on any one of them. They all have their 'favourites'.

It might as well remain that way, no? Atleast in this case. Hyundai cares more about the i10. The Getz isn't exactly setting Hyundai sales charts on fire. Hyundai never has been any good with cars priced at a premium. This one is some 6.70 OTR in Mumbai. And for that money it doesn't have a lot of kit. Not everybody cares so much for 110 bhp and 24 kgm of torque.

Shreenath Hyundai doesn't have a car for TD. They are one of Mumbai's biggest Hyundai dealers. They have no information about the Getz D, except one printed price list. Not even a colourful brochure. I was told to buy a car without TD. And I would still have to wait till January 2008 for delivery. It took me 15 minutes to find Getz D on the HMIL website. And that too only on the Technical Specifications. All main pages only mention the 1.1L and the 1.3L.

Now if it is HMIL's forbidden love child, why should we boil blood if a magazine review was a little biased. Only in this case though.

[PatienceWins]

Originally Posted by arunphilip

Any ideas of timings, PatienceWins?

He does not know when ABS would be launched.

[Steeroid]

Originally Posted by ported_head

Now if it is HMIL's forbidden love child, why should we boil blood if a magazine review was a little biased. Only in this case though.

Because the Magazine is talking about cars and not the manufacturer's treatment of the model.

Because the Magazine will never know what you just described since they never go to showrooms to test cars anyway.

And because they are supposed to test the cars abilities, and not their parentage.

[jassi]

yeah thats true, you can only find the getz d in the tech specs on the hyundai india site and no where else. maybe internal politics - korean mgmt told indian mgmt to launch getz d and then indian mgmt forced marketing team to screw up the launch