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Originally Posted by BUSA I disagree with you Aseem, have you ever driven a Getz?
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Well I have driven a Getz and the only thing I remember was that the accelerator response was poor.
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Originally Posted by BUSA The seats are far from comfortable, most Swift owners will vouch for that. The Dashboard maybe on par but not better then the Getz. The engine is a slouch at low RPM;s, lack of low end torque and the petrol 1.3 Getz is more driveable.
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The engine is NO SLOUCH!!! It has tall gearing and you need to get used to it. If you drive it like a Santro with 5th gear at 60 kmph, than good luck to you. Regarding the seats, at least to the Indicas, the Esteems, that I genereally ride in, they are miles apart as far as providing thigh support.
I realize you have deliberately not address the part that Swift HANDLING is best in its class, and with proper rubber the car is joy to throw in the corners.
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Originally Posted by BUSA Sales dont show whether a car is better or not, you tell me which car is better a Santro or a Alto? The Santro is much better but the Alto outsells it. Hence we cant conclude a car is better if it sells more. Case in point is the Mondeo, sales never took off but the car is fantastic mind you.
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Are Alto and Santro in the same segment? I dont think so. We can only compare cars in the same segment and price band to see whcih car is more succesful. We can compare Wagon R with Santro, Corolla with Civic, Honda City with SX4 etc.
You cant compare cars across segments to prove a point. Thats just meaningless!
In any case all companies make cars to make profits. A succesful car is one that manfacturers can sell and make profit from. Making a great car with no takers (buyers) and having it rot in the showroom (ala Fiat Palio) is of no use either to the buyer or the manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by BUSA I have said this a few times before also, saying it again, my friend has told me MUL believe waiting = success of a car, hence all the waiting is hyped.
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Well who is this mysterious freind? He seems to have a lot of inside information, so its great to know who he is, who he works for, where he got this information from. As my source says otherwise, my source is Jagdish Khattar. No car owner would give 24% interest on your downpayment as their car deliveries are getting delayed to hype their cars. They would rather sell as many as they possibly can.
Maybe Hyundai should try this trick than, put a waiting period for Getz.... But than you see so few on the road, ppl would go like
when the seller says, due to huge demand we are not able to provide you Getz.
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Originally Posted by BUSA There is no comparission, one is a Petrol, the other is a diesel, both segment buyers have very different requirements, a Swift Diesel buyer can get a Fiesta 1.4 but does he need it??
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Well I am sure many prespective Swift D buyers do look at other options. Those that have long running, and less budget go with Swift LDi. Those with more running and higher budget opt for Vdi. But how many takers would you find for Swift Vdi it was 50k more expensive? I am sure at that price point other cars would become far tempting.
I dont have to prove my point, I am sure that Getz Deisel wouldnt set the sales alight and we can come and revisit this point.
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Originally Posted by BUSA How does quality and better car to drive co relate Please learn to look at facts as facts.
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And what makes a quality car.... One that has great plastics like Getz Prime 1.1 and drives like a dud. Or a car like Swift Lxi which is priced same as Getz Prime 1.1 and drives like a gem. FACT is, there is most to a car than just mere plastics, the SOUL of the car is how it drives, the chasis, the suspension and the engine in its heart. All those factors constitue driveability. Thats how you determine how good a car is.
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Originally Posted by BUSA And for those who talk about Hyundai quality. I cannot remember a company pumping out a succession of new models of such relentlessly high quality as those that Hyundai has in the past two years. Source
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Dude you must be kidding. How does one auto generalist opinion become the truth, for all you know he got paid by sponsors.... I dont even wanna discuss how wrong auto reviewers are at times when they just go overboard. The source for your article is NZ, so I am not sure what point you are trying to prove in an Indian context.
In any case I dont know what meaningful model Hyundai has launched in the last 2 years in India which has set the market alight. They have series of flops launched in India for the last 2 years nothing to write about. As already pointed out by someone in the last 2 years Hyundai India has launched Elantra (where has that gone....), Embera (havent seen much off late....), a 15 lakh SUV that I dont even remember the name now (goes to show how popular it is), Verna. Terracan and what not.
I am sure I can give your articles that claim Hyundai makes ****ty cars, and Korean engines are no way near as good as japs. So qouting an article from an auto-reviwers claiming that anybody who disagrees about Hyundai quality should read the above artcile as a gospel is simple a joke.
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Originally Posted by BUSA P.S - I dont own a Hyundai, never owned one, nor do i have plans to own one in the near future. But Hyundai as a company makes cars with quality on par with Honda/Toyota.
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You do have plans to buy a car in the future. Right now you are going through the justification faze. Its just like before you marry a girl you fall in love and just see good things about her. Once you are married you find out who she really is.... thats when you realize its too late. Terms like "you werent the girl I married", become too common. All the married men in the forum can vouch for that....
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Originally Posted by BUSA P.S 2 - I can say all this after extensively driven the Petrol, Diesel Swift and the 1.3L Getz. |
Its your opinion and you are entitled to it like I am entitled to mine.
Cheers and Drive Safe!!!