Ford Ikon Flair to have 1.4TDCI and Fiesta to have 1.6TDCI

Fountainheader · 31st July 2008, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Ricky_63

The post #135, would have put your mind at ease. The pricing as mentioned in the HINDU seems to confirm a good move on part of FORD INDIA.

Now can we say KUDOS to Ford for getting it right ?

Cheers

The article is the same that we saw on AutoCar site! Not sure whether to believe it or not

SkyWalker · 31st July 2008, 19:48

Diesel Ikon form Ford starting at 5L sounds too good to be true

. I doubt it - if they undercut DeZire it will will kill their Fiesta - which is probably a better margin product for them.

Anyway, lets be hopeful.

abhi1309 · 31st July 2008, 20:12

Being a fiesta owner myself, I am pretty excited now that we have a brand new car from ford coming. Looks like its catching up in the 'game'. Also the new ikon might share only the name with the old car because looking at the front, it is a completely different car. I checked the Ford UK site and we dont have anything that is exactly like this. I am checking the Ford South Africa site as I type this, hopefully they will have his exact car. The market there is quite similar.

Nope nothing. Anyways. Good news people. 1.4TDCi is a marvel, I have taken many test drives on it, fusion as well as fiesta..

AirWind · 31st July 2008, 20:16

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Originally Posted by SkyWalker

Diesel Ikon form Ford starting at 5L sounds too good to be true

. I doubt it - if they undercut DeZire it will will kill their Fiesta - which is probably a better margin product for them.

Anyway, lets be hopeful.

5L ex-showroom is achievable considering the tools have paid back beyond their shelf life and at this price point, it isnt targetting the Fiesta but the dZire/Logan/Indigo killer.... the key to success is pricing and I hope FORD lives to our expectations.

karanraheja · 31st July 2008, 21:53

So if Ikon is getting the 1.4 TDCI around Nov. the Fiesta should get 1.6 TDCI around that time. Wont the resale of the Fiesta 1.4 TDCI be hit by this??
Also price would be a big factor here. Any guesses what ll be the price of Fiesta ZXI & SXI 1.6 TDCI???

aaggoswami · 31st July 2008, 21:57

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Originally Posted by AirWind

the key to success is pricing and I hope FORD lives to our expectations.

I think pricing is half the job in case of Ford.
Ford also need to work out A.S & S. Maruti gives better A.S & S. experience. If Ford is not able to work out upon this factor, again all the efforts will go to waste.

sammyboy · 31st July 2008, 22:22

I interacted with the guys at metro ford at length and they agreed to the fact that Ford A.S.S leaves a lot to be desired and they are working on it. And I do believe them cos i had a fantastic experience this time. They also mentioned that Ford has cut down the prices of quite a few spares (some part which was 3k + is 700 bucks now) . I hope they carry on and give the customers an experience to remember (good one

) I also asked about the ikon diesel and they were pretty optimistic about it. Hell, they also said there might be an exchange scheme for existing owners

Thats what I was interestd in, but if it looks like the pic here, well i will wait till the design grows on me , just like the santro did .

CrAzY dRiVeR · 1st August 2008, 00:25

The new OVERDRIVE is having spy pics of new ikon.

IMO, it looks real bad! I loved the old ikon for its looks!

danlalan · 1st August 2008, 00:38

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

The new OVERDRIVE is having spy pics of new ikon.

IMO, it looks real bad! I loved the old ikon for its looks!

The old outgoing ikon does really look good. This new one is trying to replicate the RS's i think. Seems the havent touched the rear at all. Probably clear lens
at the back.

MaserQ · 1st August 2008, 10:50

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Originally Posted by abhi1309

I checked the Ford UK site and we dont have anything that is exactly like this. I am checking the Ford South Africa site as I type this, hopefully they will have his exact car. The market there is quite similar.

abhi, the Ikon is a 3-box version of the older Euro-spec Fiesta. It was discontinued ages ago. The Ikon itself was conceived for developing markets like India that prefer a sedan to a hatch. India might be one of the only places to have the Ikon still in production. So I wouldn't be surprised if the cosmetic changes are India specific.

benbsb29 · 1st August 2008, 11:35

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Originally Posted by MaserQ

India might be one of the only places to have the Ikon still in production. So I wouldn't be surprised if the cosmetic changes are India specific.

Last time i checked, it was also in production in China and Mexico. Not sure now.

As for the design changes, i guess they would be limited to India alone. Even the changed bumper design was not rolled out in the above mentioned countries.

1100D · 1st August 2008, 19:56

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Originally Posted by benbsb29

Last time i checked, it was also in production in China and Mexico. Not sure now.

As for the design changes, i guess they would be limited to India alone. Even the changed bumper design was not rolled out in the above mentioned countries.

The changed bumper as in your car and mine were available in the RS versions of the MarkV Fiesta in UK long back (So it wasn't India specific per se)

directinjection · 2nd August 2008, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by benbsb29

Last time i checked, it was also in production in China and Mexico.

Mexican Ikons used to be assembled from kits supplied by Ford India which also exported kits to South Africa.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

The new OVERDRIVE is having spy pics of new ikon.

IMO, it looks real bad!

Agreed. It looks quite FORDish.

indivic · 4th August 2008, 13:26

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Originally Posted by directinjection

Mexican Ikons used to be assembled from kits supplied by Ford India which also exported kits to South Africa.

Seems not any more, the Fiesta in Mexico is the one that was famously scooped by Overdrive for us - it follows the one in Brazil.

SA replaced the Ikon with our Fiesta since a few months now.

ajnagpur · 4th August 2008, 18:24

IMO they should have done some twaeks to the interiors too. Just changing the Instument Cluster doesnt help if they want existing Ikon owners to go in for the new Diesel one.

I guess only pricing is the key now. If priced well, facelifted Ikon Diesel is going to sell like hot cakes.

31st July 2008, 19:48	#137
SkyWalker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,531 Thanked: 136 Times	Diesel Ikon form Ford starting at 5L sounds too good to be true . I doubt it - if they undercut DeZire it will will kill their Fiesta - which is probably a better margin product for them. Anyway, lets be hopeful.
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31st July 2008, 20:12	#138
abhi1309 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 446 Thanked: 68 Times View My Garage	Looks like a brand new car to me. Being a fiesta owner myself, I am pretty excited now that we have a brand new car from ford coming. Looks like its catching up in the 'game'. Also the new ikon might share only the name with the old car because looking at the front, it is a completely different car. I checked the Ford UK site and we dont have anything that is exactly like this. I am checking the Ford South Africa site as I type this, hopefully they will have his exact car. The market there is quite similar. Nope nothing. Anyways. Good news people. 1.4TDCi is a marvel, I have taken many test drives on it, fusion as well as fiesta..
	() Thanks

31st July 2008, 21:53	#140
karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	So if Ikon is getting the 1.4 TDCI around Nov. the Fiesta should get 1.6 TDCI around that time. Wont the resale of the Fiesta 1.4 TDCI be hit by this?? Also price would be a big factor here. Any guesses what ll be the price of Fiesta ZXI & SXI 1.6 TDCI???
	() Thanks

31st July 2008, 22:22	#142
sammyboy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ggn/Dehradun Posts: 1,842 Thanked: 521 Times View My Garage	I interacted with the guys at metro ford at length and they agreed to the fact that Ford A.S.S leaves a lot to be desired and they are working on it. And I do believe them cos i had a fantastic experience this time. They also mentioned that Ford has cut down the prices of quite a few spares (some part which was 3k + is 700 bucks now) . I hope they carry on and give the customers an experience to remember (good one ) I also asked about the ikon diesel and they were pretty optimistic about it. Hell, they also said there might be an exchange scheme for existing owners Thats what I was interestd in, but if it looks like the pic here, well i will wait till the design grows on me , just like the santro did .
	() Thanks

1st August 2008, 00:25	#143
CrAzY dRiVeR Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore / TVM Posts: 17,181 Thanked: 73,511 Times View My Garage	The new OVERDRIVE is having spy pics of new ikon. IMO, it looks real bad! I loved the old ikon for its looks!
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4th August 2008, 18:24	#150
ajnagpur BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nagpur, Pune, Washington DC Posts: 253 Thanked: 145 Times	Interiors IMO they should have done some twaeks to the interiors too. Just changing the Instument Cluster doesnt help if they want existing Ikon owners to go in for the new Diesel one. I guess only pricing is the key now. If priced well, facelifted Ikon Diesel is going to sell like hot cakes.
	() Thanks