The 2015 MotoGP Thread

Sheel · 25th October 2015, 09:27

Voted for Rossi.

Ideally, I wanted him to be convincingly fast & win more races than Lorenzo prior to holding up the WC title.

More race wins, yeah..

mayankk · 25th October 2015, 12:51

As much as I back Rossi, that looked a little crooked. If it's put down as overly aggressive by both, I don't know. There was a lot of aggression by both of them, and one was bound to come off worse.

PS: it looked like a kick, but it was contact. I don't think he wanted to trip him over. Just getting back for the previous corner nudge.
Geez!!

shyn · 25th October 2015, 12:52

Did Rossi just kick Marquez!? 😱
What was that! He got on Marc's inside and then looked at him and then the replays clearly show him kicking him ever so slightly but enough to send Marquez down! Why Rossi, why!
He will surely be penalised for it. Let's hope it doesn't cost him the crown. But it sure as hell will cost him some fans and respect.
Marquez rode straight back to the pits and parked.
So it is now Pedrosa-Lorenzo-Rossi.

ashwin.terminat · 25th October 2015, 12:55

I am no expert, I am not a member of the race direction.

But through my amateur eyes, that was not a racing accident. Rossi seemed slow enough to not go so wide and bump into Marquez.

Sad to see the way the duel ended between the two. Will this have repercussions? We'll know soon.

After what I saw, Rossi will never be GOAT. Not after that. Sorry.

The overhead replay actually looked like Rossi kicked Marquez with his knee! Rossi(and his fans) might argue that Marquez's bike was on Rossi's knee and that is why he pushed the bike away.

IF Rossi is guilty, I hope Race Direction aren't weighed down by the fact that their decision could weigh in heavily on the championship.

NGM · 25th October 2015, 12:55

Rossi...what was that??
Kick"racing"??

Parth46 · 25th October 2015, 12:56

From the replays, did seem like Marc touched Rossi's knee and then went down. Both Rossi and MM will have their own versions of course.

The shootout was ferocious, something had to give.

Looked like a kick, but it was actually MM that made the contact it seems - RD will evaluate from a million angles I guess.

NGM · 25th October 2015, 13:05

Rossi slowed down looked back and his foot moved.Then he again looked back to see if Marc was down.
This is what I saw with my amateur eyes.
Anyways let us leave it to Race director and enjoy the race.

nitro.1000bhp · 25th October 2015, 13:08

Well, words don't describe how disgusted I am watching that come from a 9 time champion.

A new low for Rossi and Motogp. So you have to give it Rossi on a platter or he kicks his way through?. I christen him 'GLOAT' from this moment on.

shyn · 25th October 2015, 13:10

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Originally Posted by Parth46

From the replays, did seem like Marc touched Rossi's knee and then went down. Both Rossi and MM will have their own versions of course.

The shootout was ferocious, something had to give.

Oh come on man! I am a huge Rossi fan too but what he did was a little too extreme!
He must have been really frustrated with first Lorenzo getting past him and then breezing past Marquez while he was stuck there battling for third while Lorenzo was getting away.
Yes, the Lorenzo-Marquez alliance seemed to be working over time there but even if that was the case, still kicking someone out is wrong!
The worst that could happen was Rossi would finish fourth and Lorenzo would be second or even first. But some points are better than no points. And I don't even want to imagine the effect it will have on his reputation now.
Like the line from Dark Knight goes, "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".

Parth46 · 25th October 2015, 13:16

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Originally Posted by shyn

Oh come on man! I am a huge Rossi fan too but what he did was a little too extreme!
He must have been really frustrated with first Lorenzo getting past him and then breezing past Marquez while he was stuck there battling for third while Lorenzo was getting away.
Yes, the Lorenzo-Marquez alliance seemed to be working over time there but even if that was the case, still kicking someone out is wrong!
The worst that could happen was Rossi would finish fourth and Lorenzo would be second or even first. But some points are better than no points. And I don't even want to imagine the effect it will have on his reputation now.
Like the line from Dark Knight goes, "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".

Nothing to do with being a fan, calling it as I see it. None of us are experts, so let's wait for the RD verdict before quoting movie lines and concluding that it was actually a "kick"!

RoadSurfer · 25th October 2015, 13:23

I don't think Rossi wanted Marquez to crash out of the race. He was trying to confront MM on the turn 14 and then the inevitable happened. But sure it doesn't do any good to Rossi's World Championship lead nor his image.

nitro.1000bhp · 25th October 2015, 13:25

Those of you that were wearing blinders while watching the race, here's what the rest of us saw. Marquez was clearly leaned over and looking in the direction of the turn while rossi was stood up and looking the other way. Marq tried to turn in and there was a yamaha clearly not going the same direction and contact was inevitable.

bet if marq had done the same he'd been immediately penalized. Race direction needs to grow a pair.

mayankk · 25th October 2015, 13:28

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Originally Posted by nitro.1000bhp

Those of you that were wearing blinders while watching the race, here's what the rest of us saw.

No need for that. Even us Rossi fans are calling him out. As for what you depicted as the scenario, if that is true, then it's an incident only. I just hope that's what it is, just testosterone and anger.
But like I said, looked a bit crooked, wonder if the line was crossed.

shyn · 25th October 2015, 13:34

Why did Lorenzo just walk away from the podium without spraying any champagne?! Is that him showing his protest?
And it has to be said that Lorenzo's overtake on Marquez was a little too simple. Marc conveniently went wide and it just so happens when Lorenzo is coming. Looked a little sketchy to me. And then with Rossi on his tail, he doesn't miss the line even once and holds him back while Lorenzo builds a comfortable lead. Just saying.
EDIT: This guy should have been Rossi's PR. That is the perfect excuse! A simple human reflex called the knee jerk. xD just some humor to lighten up the tension.
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Shivank · 25th October 2015, 13:49

You don't need a pair of binoculars to see what just happened there!

Saying that you need seasoned experts' opinion on that will be taking fanboism a bit too far. And if Marquez was toying around with Rossi, he had every right to do that given how Rossi blabbered BS, accusing him of helping Lorenzo.

Lessons? If you can't beat them, kick them. But make sure you're a 9 TIMES WORLD CHAMPION before pulling such antics. Anything less or non-yellow is a moaner, whiner, loser, dirty rider, immature kid and what not!

View Poll Results: Who will win the 2015 MotoGP championship?
Marc Marquez	21	15.22%
Jorge Lorenzo	27	19.57%
Dani Pedrosa	1	0.72%
Valentino Rossi	89	64.49%
Others	0	0%
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25th October 2015, 09:27	#631
Sheel Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Purnea (Bihar) Posts: 9,590 Thanked: 14,408 Times View My Garage	Re: The 2015 MotoGP Thread Voted for Rossi. Ideally, I wanted him to be convincingly fast & win more races than Lorenzo prior to holding up the WC title. More race wins, yeah..
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25th October 2015, 12:51	#632
mayankk Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Delhi Posts: 5,148 Thanked: 8,170 Times View My Garage	As much as I back Rossi, that looked a little crooked. If it's put down as overly aggressive by both, I don't know. There was a lot of aggression by both of them, and one was bound to come off worse. PS: it looked like a kick, but it was contact. I don't think he wanted to trip him over. Just getting back for the previous corner nudge. Geez!! Last edited by mayankk : 25th October 2015 at 12:55.
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25th October 2015, 12:52	#633
shyn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,542 Thanked: 3,032 Times	Did Rossi just kick Marquez!? 😱 What was that! He got on Marc's inside and then looked at him and then the replays clearly show him kicking him ever so slightly but enough to send Marquez down! Why Rossi, why! He will surely be penalised for it. Let's hope it doesn't cost him the crown. But it sure as hell will cost him some fans and respect. Marquez rode straight back to the pits and parked. So it is now Pedrosa-Lorenzo-Rossi.
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25th October 2015, 12:55	#634
ashwin.terminat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,711 Thanked: 2,192 Times	Re: The 2015 MotoGP Thread I am no expert, I am not a member of the race direction. But through my amateur eyes, that was not a racing accident. Rossi seemed slow enough to not go so wide and bump into Marquez. Sad to see the way the duel ended between the two. Will this have repercussions? We'll know soon. After what I saw, Rossi will never be GOAT. Not after that. Sorry. The overhead replay actually looked like Rossi kicked Marquez with his knee! Rossi(and his fans) might argue that Marquez's bike was on Rossi's knee and that is why he pushed the bike away. IF Rossi is guilty, I hope Race Direction aren't weighed down by the fact that their decision could weigh in heavily on the championship. Last edited by ashwin.terminat : 25th October 2015 at 13:04.
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25th October 2015, 12:55	#635
NGM BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 101 Thanked: 30 Times	Re: The 2015 MotoGP Thread Rossi...what was that?? Kick"racing"??
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25th October 2015, 12:56	#636
Parth46 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Bangalore Posts: 375 Thanked: 572 Times	Re: The 2015 MotoGP Thread From the replays, did seem like Marc touched Rossi's knee and then went down. Both Rossi and MM will have their own versions of course. The shootout was ferocious, something had to give. Looked like a kick, but it was actually MM that made the contact it seems - RD will evaluate from a million angles I guess. Last edited by Parth46 : 25th October 2015 at 13:07.
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25th October 2015, 13:05	#637
NGM BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 101 Thanked: 30 Times	Re: The 2015 MotoGP Thread Rossi slowed down looked back and his foot moved.Then he again looked back to see if Marc was down. This is what I saw with my amateur eyes. Anyways let us leave it to Race director and enjoy the race.
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25th October 2015, 13:08	#638
nitro.1000bhp BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 484 Thanked: 748 Times View My Garage	Re: The 2015 MotoGP Thread Well, words don't describe how disgusted I am watching that come from a 9 time champion. A new low for Rossi and Motogp. So you have to give it Rossi on a platter or he kicks his way through?. I christen him 'GLOAT' from this moment on.
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25th October 2015, 13:23	#641
RoadSurfer BHPian Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: BLR, NSK Posts: 165 Thanked: 174 Times	I don't think Rossi wanted Marquez to crash out of the race. He was trying to confront MM on the turn 14 and then the inevitable happened. But sure it doesn't do any good to Rossi's World Championship lead nor his image.
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25th October 2015, 13:25	#642
nitro.1000bhp BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 484 Thanked: 748 Times View My Garage	Re: The 2015 MotoGP Thread Those of you that were wearing blinders while watching the race, here's what the rest of us saw. Marquez was clearly leaned over and looking in the direction of the turn while rossi was stood up and looking the other way. Marq tried to turn in and there was a yamaha clearly not going the same direction and contact was inevitable. bet if marq had done the same he'd been immediately penalized. Race direction needs to grow a pair. Last edited by nitro.1000bhp : 25th October 2015 at 13:32.
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25th October 2015, 13:34	#644
shyn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,542 Thanked: 3,032 Times	The 2015 MotoGP Thread Why did Lorenzo just walk away from the podium without spraying any champagne?! Is that him showing his protest? And it has to be said that Lorenzo's overtake on Marquez was a little too simple. Marc conveniently went wide and it just so happens when Lorenzo is coming. Looked a little sketchy to me. And then with Rossi on his tail, he doesn't miss the line even once and holds him back while Lorenzo builds a comfortable lead. Just saying. EDIT: This guy should have been Rossi's PR. That is the perfect excuse! A simple human reflex called the knee jerk. xD just some humor to lighten up the tension. Attachment 1430787 Last edited by shyn : 25th October 2015 at 13:47.
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25th October 2015, 13:49	#645
Shivank BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chandigrh/Noida Posts: 324 Thanked: 193 Times	Re: The 2015 MotoGP Thread You don't need a pair of binoculars to see what just happened there! Saying that you need seasoned experts' opinion on that will be taking fanboism a bit too far. And if Marquez was toying around with Rossi, he had every right to do that given how Rossi blabbered BS, accusing him of helping Lorenzo. Lessons? If you can't beat them, kick them. But make sure you're a 9 TIMES WORLD CHAMPION before pulling such antics. Anything less or non-yellow is a moaner, whiner, loser, dirty rider, immature kid and what not!
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