What next Ferrari? EDIT: Schumi is BACK!! And with Mercedes Benz !!

Vid6639 · 30th July 2009, 16:53

When Schumi was around there was traction control and loads of electronics. Now that has considerably reduced and we are back to slick tyres as well.

That's the best platform for him.

razor4077 · 30th July 2009, 18:24

Heh... back to the good'ol times! F1 was becoming a real drag of late.
Welcome back o Red Baron! You were sorely missed

PAVAN KADAM · 30th July 2009, 18:37

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Originally Posted by razor4077

Welcome back o Red Baron! You were sorely missed

Yes, His Red Flying Machine with the tyre watching ORVMs

Cant get enough of this news though.

Some Flying moment pics from the legend to make this thread a bit lively guys?

adityamunshi · 30th July 2009, 18:46

Another one from the gpgames.de forum

McLaren Rulez · 30th July 2009, 19:36

I can't wait for the Pilotoons cartoons of Schumacher. I love the crutched Webber, pacifier sucking Vettel, red eyed Rubens and more.

gpa · 30th July 2009, 19:45

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

I love the crutched Webber, pacifier sucking Vettel, red eyed Rubens

+1 to that. I loved this one as well and can't wait to see what's gonna come up on the Schumi front.

yzfrj · 30th July 2009, 19:46

Watch and learn kids Schumi is back.

If anyone has doubts how good Schumi was and is.
(Try Google for starters and learn something useful)

I pity you

F1 will be interesting from now.

sajands · 30th July 2009, 20:31

Well, now its going to rain michale magic. Schumi is undergoing special F1 fitness program at the Ferrari factory for the GP. Here we go.....

Dippy · 30th July 2009, 20:54

@adityamunshi: just love that cartoon

Schumi will not have much track time before he hit the Valencia race weekend on 23rd. It may be very well possible that he might use Valencia to get used to the car but I really dont think it would take time for someone like him really. Free practice should be useful in a big way. I would be really interested in seeing the timings he posts.

I dont see slick tyres and absence of traction control being a problem for him. Been there done that.

Win or no win. Just to see him on track will be special. I will actually advise everyone here who were keen to go a race this year to make the trip. This is one last chance which may never come again. Singapore or Abu Dhabi just make it.

Watching him race in the flesh is magic. I was very lucky to have experienced that and see him win from Pole.

PAVAN KADAM · 30th July 2009, 23:38

Such big and iconic is his stature, everyone is now talking about "Schumi is Back"

words, and any F1 discussion starts and ends here.

Good for Ferrari that they've turned to their family member for support and what more bigger support than the Legendary Michael Schumacher himself. I've always wished he should make a comeback sometime or the other, but this was a revelation. F1 now will be more of fun and excitement from TODAY.

All focus and attention is centric towards this topic, whooooo what a grave and great responsibility on Michaels shoulders. Not that he'll let down any of his fans.

This time around the word MICHAEL SCHUMACHER seems to supersede F1 itself.

Lets wish him with all the best wishes and prayers.

anachronix · 30th July 2009, 23:47

So, we are going to see a repeat of this! Hmm

YouTube - Brazil F1 GP 2006 - Schumacher's final laps

Bubby · 31st July 2009, 00:06

Time for a little bit of Michael magic, I am sure he will be able to make to the podium more then once. Can't wait to see Hamilton against Schumi, no prizes for guessing who's gonna come out on top.

I am having this feeling Michaels experience may just provide that winning formula to FERRARI, that Formula1.

Addy · 31st July 2009, 01:07

@ adityamunshi : Surprising that you put Alonso in the list of so called Kids there. If you forgot it was not very long back that Alonso beat schumi to the title twice in a row. He may be a legend, but was still beaten.

Addy · 31st July 2009, 03:40

Hey adityamunshi : Sorry it was not you, but surprising to see gpgames.de forum put Alonso in that list. Strange!! None the less a little history about this Legend.

World Championships 7 Grand Prix Entries 250 Grand Prix Wins 91 Pole Positions 68 Nationality German
History

Since the Formula One World Championship began in 1950 the title has been won by 30 different drivers, 14 of whom won more than one championship. Of the previous multiple champions the most prolific was Juan Manuel Fangio, whose record of five titles stood for five decades until it was eclipsed by the most dominant driver in the history of the sport. By the time he retired, still the man to beat after 16 seasons at the top, Michael Schumacher had seven driving titles and held nearly every record in the book by a considerable margin. Though his ethics were sometimes questionable, his sheer brilliance behind the wheel was never in dispute.

The most extraordinary driver's origins were most ordinary. He was born on 3 January, 1969, near Cologne, Germany, six years before his brother Ralf, who would also become a Formula One driver. Their father, a bricklayer, ran the local kart track, at Kerpen, where Mrs Schumacher operated the canteen. As a four-year old Michael enjoyed playing on a pedal kart, though when his father fitted it with a small motorcycle engine the future superstar promptly crashed into a lamppost. But Michael soon mastered his machine and won his first kart championship at six, following which his far from affluent parents arranged sponsorship from wealthy enthusiasts that enabled Michael to make rapid progress. By 1987 he was German and European kart champion and had left school to work as an apprentice car mechanic, a job that was soon replaced by full-time employment as a race driver. In 1990 he won the German F3 championship and was hired by Mercedes to drive sportscars. The next year he made a stunning Formula One debut, qualifying an astonishing seventh in a Jordan for the Belgian Grand Prix at Spa, whereupon he was immediately snapped up by Benetton, where in 1992 he won his first Formula One race, again at Spa, the most demanding circuit of them all.

Over the next four seasons with Benetton he won a further 18 races and two world championships. His first, in 1994, was somewhat tainted in that Benetton was suspected of technical irregularities and in their championship showdown race in Adelaide Schumacher collided (deliberately, some thought) with his closest challenger, the Williams of Damon Hill. But Germany's first world champion was unquestionably worthy of the 1995 driving title, following which he moved to Ferrari, then a team in disarray and without a champion since Jody Scheckter in 1979. The Schumacher-Ferrari combination began promisingly with three wins in 1996 and five more in 1997, though that season ended in infamy when in the final race, at Jerez in Spain, Schumacher tried unsuccessfully to ram the Williams of his title rival Jacques Villeneuve off the road. As punishment for his misdemeanour Schumacher's second place in the championship was stricken from the record books he would thereafter begin to rewrite.

After finishing second overall in 1998, Schumacher's 1999 season was interrupted by a broken leg (the only injury of his career) incurred in crash at the British Grand Prix. From then on there was no stopping 'Schumi' - who in 2000 became Ferrari's first champion in 21 years, then went on to win the driving title for the next four seasons in succession. In 2002 he won 11 times and finished on the podium in all 17 races. In 2003 he broke Fangio's record by winning his sixth driving title. In 2004 he won 13 of the 18 races to secure his seventh championship by a massive margin. Disadvantaged by an off-the-pace Ferrari in 2005 he still managed third overall in the standings. In 2006 he finished his career with a flourish (though at Monaco he was found guilty of deliberately parking his Ferrari to prevent anyone from beating his qualifying time): extending his pole position record to 68 (Ayrton Senna had 65), scoring seven victories to bring his total to 91 (40 more than his nearest rival, Alain Prost) and nearly winning yet another driving title.

Like all the great drivers Schumacher had exceptional ambition, confidence, intelligence, motivation, dedication and determination. What set him apart and helped account for his unprecedented length of time at the top of his profession was a pure passion for racing and an endless quest for improvement. Blessed with a supreme natural talent, he had a racing brain to match, possessing spare mental capacity that enabled him to make split-second decisions, adapt to changing circumstances and plan ahead while driving on the limit, which with his superb state of fitness (he trained harder than any driver) he was easily able to do for lap after lap. The smoothly swift and mechanically-aware driver operated with a keen sensitivity for the limits of his car and himself (he made comparatively few mistakes) and his feedback to his engineers (led by technical director Ross Brawn who worked with him throughout his career) was exceptionally astute.

No Ferrari driver worked harder for the team, nor were any of them more appreciated than the German who led the famous Italian Scuderia to six successive Constructors' Championships. He led by example, frequently visiting the factory at Maranello, talking to the personnel, thanking them, encouraging them, never criticising and invariably inspiring everyone with his optimism, high energy level and huge work ethic. The team was totally devoted to the driver who often said he loved the Ferrari ‘family’.

Life with his own family - wife Corinna and their children Gina-Maria and Mick - was deliberately kept as normal as possible (the children never came to the races) and held sacred by the essentially shy and private man who reluctantly became one of the most famous sportsmen in the world. Rich beyond his wildest dreams (he reportedly earned as much as US$100 million a year), he generously supported charities, especially those for underprivileged children, and to help victims of the 2004 Asian tsunami disaster he made a personal donation of US$10 million.

In his last season the 37-year-old driver who had made Formula One racing his personal playground was still at the peak of his powers. No champion had been so excellent for so long, but Michael Schumacher finally grew tired of the effort necessary to continue to excel and decided to quit while he was still ahead - so far ahead that his achievements are unlikely to ever be surpassed.

The above information was copied from the Official Formula1 Website.

anachronix · 31st July 2009, 08:58

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Originally Posted by Addy

@ adityamunshi : Surprising that you put Alonso in the list of so called Kids there. If you forgot it was not very long back that Alonso beat schumi to the title twice in a row. He may be a legend, but was still beaten.

Oh is it?! In 2005 Alonso beat Michael in a Ferrari which struggled to get into Top10. Let me remind you the single tyre rule by the innovative fools from FIA which held the Michelin guys high for 2005.

2006, did you forget all the sabotage claims on Renault from Alonso before JapGP. And if you notice, Ferrari had a car to fight for win only after the CanadianGP.

Michael is the King!

He will play with the kid if he is given his toy to drive in Valencia. I beleive Renault is suspended from ValenciaGP

A few clicks from my collection of 2004 season

30th July 2009, 16:53	#136
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,733 Thanked: 43,509 Times View My Garage	When Schumi was around there was traction control and loads of electronics. Now that has considerably reduced and we are back to slick tyres as well. That's the best platform for him.
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razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	Heh... back to the good'ol times! F1 was becoming a real drag of late. Welcome back o Red Baron! You were sorely missed
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adityamunshi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baroda Posts: 771 Thanked: 6 Times	Another one from the gpgames.de forum Attached Thumbnails
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McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,394 Thanked: 5,138 Times	I can't wait for the Pilotoons cartoons of Schumacher. I love the crutched Webber, pacifier sucking Vettel, red eyed Rubens and more.
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yzfrj BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: who cares Posts: 787 Thanked: 142 Times	Watch and learn kids Schumi is back. If anyone has doubts how good Schumi was and is. (Try Google for starters and learn something useful) I pity you F1 will be interesting from now.
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sajands BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 941 Thanked: 348 Times View My Garage	Well, now its going to rain michale magic. Schumi is undergoing special F1 fitness program at the Ferrari factory for the GP. Here we go.....
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30th July 2009, 20:54	#144
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,567 Thanked: 2,558 Times	@adityamunshi: just love that cartoon Schumi will not have much track time before he hit the Valencia race weekend on 23rd. It may be very well possible that he might use Valencia to get used to the car but I really dont think it would take time for someone like him really. Free practice should be useful in a big way. I would be really interested in seeing the timings he posts. I dont see slick tyres and absence of traction control being a problem for him. Been there done that. Win or no win. Just to see him on track will be special. I will actually advise everyone here who were keen to go a race this year to make the trip. This is one last chance which may never come again. Singapore or Abu Dhabi just make it. Watching him race in the flesh is magic. I was very lucky to have experienced that and see him win from Pole.
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30th July 2009, 23:38	#145
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Such big and iconic is his stature, everyone is now talking about "Schumi is Back" words, and any F1 discussion starts and ends here. Good for Ferrari that they've turned to their family member for support and what more bigger support than the Legendary Michael Schumacher himself. I've always wished he should make a comeback sometime or the other, but this was a revelation. F1 now will be more of fun and excitement from TODAY. All focus and attention is centric towards this topic, whooooo what a grave and great responsibility on Michaels shoulders. Not that he'll let down any of his fans. This time around the word MICHAEL SCHUMACHER seems to supersede F1 itself. Lets wish him with all the best wishes and prayers.
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31st July 2009, 00:06	#147
Bubby BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 503 Thanked: 168 Times	Time for a little bit of Michael magic, I am sure he will be able to make to the podium more then once. Can't wait to see Hamilton against Schumi, no prizes for guessing who's gonna come out on top. I am having this feeling Michaels experience may just provide that winning formula to FERRARI, that Formula1.
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31st July 2009, 01:07	#148
Addy BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 102 Thanked: 13 Times	Kids ?? @ adityamunshi : Surprising that you put Alonso in the list of so called Kids there. If you forgot it was not very long back that Alonso beat schumi to the title twice in a row. He may be a legend, but was still beaten.
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31st July 2009, 03:40	#149
Addy BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 102 Thanked: 13 Times	Sorry my BAD Hey adityamunshi : Sorry it was not you, but surprising to see gpgames.de forum put Alonso in that list. Strange!! None the less a little history about this Legend. World Championships 7 Grand Prix Entries 250 Grand Prix Wins 91 Pole Positions 68 Nationality German History Since the Formula One World Championship began in 1950 the title has been won by 30 different drivers, 14 of whom won more than one championship. Of the previous multiple champions the most prolific was Juan Manuel Fangio, whose record of five titles stood for five decades until it was eclipsed by the most dominant driver in the history of the sport. By the time he retired, still the man to beat after 16 seasons at the top, Michael Schumacher had seven driving titles and held nearly every record in the book by a considerable margin. Though his ethics were sometimes questionable, his sheer brilliance behind the wheel was never in dispute. The most extraordinary driver's origins were most ordinary. He was born on 3 January, 1969, near Cologne, Germany, six years before his brother Ralf, who would also become a Formula One driver. Their father, a bricklayer, ran the local kart track, at Kerpen, where Mrs Schumacher operated the canteen. As a four-year old Michael enjoyed playing on a pedal kart, though when his father fitted it with a small motorcycle engine the future superstar promptly crashed into a lamppost. But Michael soon mastered his machine and won his first kart championship at six, following which his far from affluent parents arranged sponsorship from wealthy enthusiasts that enabled Michael to make rapid progress. By 1987 he was German and European kart champion and had left school to work as an apprentice car mechanic, a job that was soon replaced by full-time employment as a race driver. In 1990 he won the German F3 championship and was hired by Mercedes to drive sportscars. The next year he made a stunning Formula One debut, qualifying an astonishing seventh in a Jordan for the Belgian Grand Prix at Spa, whereupon he was immediately snapped up by Benetton, where in 1992 he won his first Formula One race, again at Spa, the most demanding circuit of them all. Over the next four seasons with Benetton he won a further 18 races and two world championships. His first, in 1994, was somewhat tainted in that Benetton was suspected of technical irregularities and in their championship showdown race in Adelaide Schumacher collided (deliberately, some thought) with his closest challenger, the Williams of Damon Hill. But Germany's first world champion was unquestionably worthy of the 1995 driving title, following which he moved to Ferrari, then a team in disarray and without a champion since Jody Scheckter in 1979. The Schumacher-Ferrari combination began promisingly with three wins in 1996 and five more in 1997, though that season ended in infamy when in the final race, at Jerez in Spain, Schumacher tried unsuccessfully to ram the Williams of his title rival Jacques Villeneuve off the road. As punishment for his misdemeanour Schumacher's second place in the championship was stricken from the record books he would thereafter begin to rewrite. After finishing second overall in 1998, Schumacher's 1999 season was interrupted by a broken leg (the only injury of his career) incurred in crash at the British Grand Prix. From then on there was no stopping 'Schumi' - who in 2000 became Ferrari's first champion in 21 years, then went on to win the driving title for the next four seasons in succession. In 2002 he won 11 times and finished on the podium in all 17 races. In 2003 he broke Fangio's record by winning his sixth driving title. In 2004 he won 13 of the 18 races to secure his seventh championship by a massive margin. Disadvantaged by an off-the-pace Ferrari in 2005 he still managed third overall in the standings. In 2006 he finished his career with a flourish (though at Monaco he was found guilty of deliberately parking his Ferrari to prevent anyone from beating his qualifying time): extending his pole position record to 68 (Ayrton Senna had 65), scoring seven victories to bring his total to 91 (40 more than his nearest rival, Alain Prost) and nearly winning yet another driving title. Like all the great drivers Schumacher had exceptional ambition, confidence, intelligence, motivation, dedication and determination. What set him apart and helped account for his unprecedented length of time at the top of his profession was a pure passion for racing and an endless quest for improvement. Blessed with a supreme natural talent, he had a racing brain to match, possessing spare mental capacity that enabled him to make split-second decisions, adapt to changing circumstances and plan ahead while driving on the limit, which with his superb state of fitness (he trained harder than any driver) he was easily able to do for lap after lap. The smoothly swift and mechanically-aware driver operated with a keen sensitivity for the limits of his car and himself (he made comparatively few mistakes) and his feedback to his engineers (led by technical director Ross Brawn who worked with him throughout his career) was exceptionally astute. No Ferrari driver worked harder for the team, nor were any of them more appreciated than the German who led the famous Italian Scuderia to six successive Constructors' Championships. He led by example, frequently visiting the factory at Maranello, talking to the personnel, thanking them, encouraging them, never criticising and invariably inspiring everyone with his optimism, high energy level and huge work ethic. The team was totally devoted to the driver who often said he loved the Ferrari ‘family’. Life with his own family - wife Corinna and their children Gina-Maria and Mick - was deliberately kept as normal as possible (the children never came to the races) and held sacred by the essentially shy and private man who reluctantly became one of the most famous sportsmen in the world. Rich beyond his wildest dreams (he reportedly earned as much as US$100 million a year), he generously supported charities, especially those for underprivileged children, and to help victims of the 2004 Asian tsunami disaster he made a personal donation of US$10 million. In his last season the 37-year-old driver who had made Formula One racing his personal playground was still at the peak of his powers. No champion had been so excellent for so long, but Michael Schumacher finally grew tired of the effort necessary to continue to excel and decided to quit while he was still ahead - so far ahead that his achievements are unlikely to ever be surpassed. The above information was copied from the Official Formula1 Website.
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