What next Ferrari? EDIT: Schumi is BACK!! And with Mercedes Benz !!

yzfrj · 3rd August 2009, 21:51

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

Well Toro Rosso never applied for permission anyway but all in all, there is a testing ban and these special permissions would contravene that rule and set a bad precedent.

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Originally Posted by Mpower

At the end of the day we need to have the same rules for everybody.

This whole special permission and bending the rules are a little too much. This is especially true if the team is "heavy weight".

That is plain stupid and is not in the best interest of the sport as a whole.

If Schumi gets to test on an old car or on a simulator, its something Ferrari just got to live with. Its not right to bend the rules as they like or try to do so.

PS : I'm a Ferrari and MS fan. So don't get all "Tifosi" on me, please.

McLaren Rulez · 3rd August 2009, 22:34

Correction from me. Apparently Toro Rosso did ask for permission and were denied.

Source: autosport.com - F1 News: Red Bull teams block Schumacher test

PAVAN KADAM · 3rd August 2009, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Of course Ferrari/MS/Luca tend to think that they are always over and above the FIA.

By testing an '07 F1 Clienti car, have already used a loophole that is not available to other teams.

Why should we rake up that issue, everyone knows F1 is not anyones personal computer these days.

Just because there might be a provision, teams might ask for permissions.

Dont we all see reason's to bend rules set at our work place (office)?

And Ferrari letting Schumi drive the 07 F1 clienti car, thats never a loophole, anyone can drive that car, its afterall a retired car, and the program allows any Ferrari clients test drive it.

Just because its Schumi, we start looking at loopholes.

nitrous · 3rd August 2009, 23:22

I smell fear!
Williams and the red bulls are freaked!

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Originally Posted by yzfrj

Just because its Schumi, we start looking at loopholes.

Loopholes is everything!
How did you think Button/Brawn won 5 out of 6 races in the first part of 2009?

McLaren Rulez · 3rd August 2009, 23:27

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Originally Posted by nitrous

I smell fear!
Williams and the red bulls are freaked!

Red Bull maybe, but Williams? Nah! I'm sure they don't really care about the title this year. This is just Frank Williams doing what's right.

KRf1 · 4th August 2009, 02:57

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Originally Posted by gpa

The Spa Francochamps circuit was one of his all time favorite tracks. I won't be surprised if he wins there.

Interesting . Because it is also Kimi Raikkonens favourite track . He always reserves something extra for it . So Ferrari please get the car right !

sgiitk · 4th August 2009, 07:50

I hear that Williams have said NO!

14000rpm · 4th August 2009, 08:03

Schumi's got racing in his blood and it doesn't really too long for him to come to terms with the new car. however, the 19 yr old new Torror Rosso driver had no exposure to this environment whatsoever. but he was just pulled in to taste the waters. Williams has raised a very valid point. Come on Schumi!! I'm a die hard McLaren fan but still will vouch for Schumi's drive coz it'll enliven the fading glory of F1.

gpa · 4th August 2009, 09:48

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Loopholes is everything! How did you think Button/Brawn won 5 out of 6 races in the first part of 2009?

Brilliantly put nitrous!

They (Brawn) used it to their advantage whilst all the other teams were caught napping.

sgiitk · 4th August 2009, 10:02

Creative interpretation of the rules has always been an integral part of F1. When you are striving for the last millisecond then this is but natural.

I suspect MS may esp. be keen to figure out as to the best way of using KERS. I am sure you will see him using it far more often and creatively than it has been done so far.

McLaren Rulez · 4th August 2009, 10:52

Any news on who Schumacher's engineer will be? Chris Dyer was his engineer but now works with Kimi. Will it be Rob Smedley or will they try to make Schumacher feel more comfortable by giving him his old engineer?

gpa · 4th August 2009, 11:15

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

Any news on who Schumacher's engineer will be?

I think he'll be happy to work with either of them. But, considering that Chris is now with Kimi, I think Rob Smedly will step in.

Rocky_Balboa · 4th August 2009, 12:52

Despite being a Schumi and Ferrari fan, am happy the test request was turned-down for whatever reasons. Now people wont say 'Look Schumi drove an extra day and obtained such a result' and start blaming Ferrari for everything.

yzfrj · 4th August 2009, 15:31

Its not a big deal, still just for the record.

Pavan was the one who wrote this comment. Not me

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Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

Just because its Schumi, we start looking at loopholes.

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Loopholes is everything!
How did you think Button/Brawn won 5 out of 6 races in the first part of 2009?

Well, loopholes ain't racing mate and Ferrari of all people should't set such crazy examples.
What say ?

kuttapan · 4th August 2009, 15:35

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Originally Posted by gpa

I think he'll be happy to work with either of them. But, considering that Chris is now with Kimi, I think Rob Smedly will step in.

Kimi will probably walk off in a huff to have another go at rallying in his (now) battered Fiat Punto Abarth, if his engineer were to be given to Schumi. Considering that Schumi is standing in for Massa, the entire crew for Massa's car will do duty for Schumi, I guess.

3rd August 2009, 22:34	#197
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Correction from me. Apparently Toro Rosso did ask for permission and were denied. Source: autosport.com - F1 News: Red Bull teams block Schumacher test
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4th August 2009, 07:50	#202
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	I hear that Williams have said NO!
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4th August 2009, 08:03	#203
14000rpm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Helsinki Posts: 2,342 Thanked: 5,564 Times View My Garage	Schumi's got racing in his blood and it doesn't really too long for him to come to terms with the new car. however, the 19 yr old new Torror Rosso driver had no exposure to this environment whatsoever. but he was just pulled in to taste the waters. Williams has raised a very valid point. Come on Schumi!! I'm a die hard McLaren fan but still will vouch for Schumi's drive coz it'll enliven the fading glory of F1.
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4th August 2009, 10:02	#205
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	Creative interpretation of the rules has always been an integral part of F1. When you are striving for the last millisecond then this is but natural. I suspect MS may esp. be keen to figure out as to the best way of using KERS. I am sure you will see him using it far more often and creatively than it has been done so far.
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4th August 2009, 10:52	#206
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Any news on who Schumacher's engineer will be? Chris Dyer was his engineer but now works with Kimi. Will it be Rob Smedley or will they try to make Schumacher feel more comfortable by giving him his old engineer?
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Rocky_Balboa BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Namma Bengalooru Posts: 676 Thanked: 358 Times View My Garage	Despite being a Schumi and Ferrari fan, am happy the test request was turned-down for whatever reasons. Now people wont say 'Look Schumi drove an extra day and obtained such a result' and start blaming Ferrari for everything.
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