[rakesh_r]

Originally Posted by badboyscad

Guys, please clear my doubt.

Currently, im running philips 130/100 halogens(with ceramic holder wiring harness) in my Figo. Im planning to switch to HID's.

Now my question is will this "Philips Conv. Bulb H4 H/L 4200K 85815 P43" HID kit be brighter than my existing 130/100 halogen setup?

http://www.lighting.philips.co.in/v2...p?id=1012984#0

Please help me decide.

PS: Im also planning a upgrade to projector setup in the future, money permitting.

As far as I know the 4200k has been discontinued in India long back thanks to lack of knowledge where we always think blue is always best.Regarding on the performance the hid will run at a comparatively lower temperature hence won't compromise the reflectors.On the intensity front my swift runs on a 100-90 set up and my 220 on a 55w 4200 k hid.Found the latter to be much better.But it might be because the 220 has a projector.Hid always works best with a projector.

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by badboyscad

Guys, please clear my doubt.

Currently, im running philips 130/100 halogens(with ceramic holder wiring harness) in my Figo. Im planning to switch to HID's.

Now my question is will this "Philips Conv. Bulb H4 H/L 4200K 85815 P43" HID kit be brighter than my existing 130/100 halogen setup?

http://www.lighting.philips.co.in/v2...p?id=1012984#0

Please help me decide.

PS: Im also planning a upgrade to projector setup in the future, money permitting.

If you are planning to upgrade to projectors in the future, wait for it and get HIDs. HID's in reflectors are not recommended. Moreover, stock bulb config might be different when compared to projector setup. If am correct, Figo got H4 bulbs while projector kit might accept different bulbs like H9. I had the same experience. So if you buy HID's now, it might suit the projector setup and your HID's will be a waste. So i advice you to stick with the current setup now and upgrade to projectors+HIDs when you have enough funds.

Philips had stopped the production of 4300k hids but you can source it now (Chinese made).

[PatienceWins]

I upgraded the headlight of my Getz to Philips Rally 100/90 with relay. I had tried Philips Vision Plus earlier, it was good but inadequate for highway runs. I am very happy with the upgrade. The brightness is too good for highway and throw has also improved.

I am not using a ceramic holder for the headlight. Is it required? The accessory guy was of the opinion that it was not required. If required, where can I source them in Bangalore? I think it is better to be on the safer side with headlight and electrical system.

[sameerg001]

Originally Posted by PatienceWins

I upgraded the headlight of my Getz to Philips Rally 100/90 with relay. I had tried Philips Vision Plus earlier, it was good but inadequate for highway runs. I am very happy with the upgrade. The brightness is too good for highway and throw has also improved.

I am not using a ceramic holder for the headlight. Is it required? The accessory guy was of the opinion that it was not required. If required, where can I source them in Bangalore? I think it is better to be on the safer side with headlight and electrical system.

I am using 90/100 with relay and without ceramic holders, well they are good to have but not neccassary to have. I didn't faced any darkening of reflectors since last 3 years.

Rest you can find them easily at any good accessories shop.

[sajjt]

Originally Posted by sameerg001

I am using 90/100 with relay and without ceramic holders, well they are good to have but not neccassary to have. I didn't faced any darkening of reflectors since last 3 years.

Rest you can find them easily at any good accessories shop.

Dude, there is no relation between ceramic holders and blackened headlight glass. It's used for protecting the holder's from melting due to the excess heat from the higher rated bulbs. Some OE holders are of good quality which may withstand the heat from the bulb some may not. Melting the holder's can cause fire which is the last thing we would like hear.

[fine69]

I myself got Philips Rally 100/90w bulbs with Philips original relay kit (relay + ceramic holders), all of it was done for 1300/- (good deal?)

The installer didn't wipe the bulbs with any alcohol solution before putting them in and when I asked he said it wasn't necessary.

The light is with a very little whitish tinge, definitely brighter and lights up the road ahead like its daytime. However, when there's oncoming traffic the glare from the opposite side mellows down the throw.

Compared to my swift's OEM setup, its way bright and doing ~100-110 kmph in night now seems manageable.

[Sommos]

Originally Posted by PatienceWins

I upgraded the headlight of my Getz to Philips Rally 100/90 with relay. I had tried Philips Vision Plus earlier, it was good but inadequate for highway runs. I am very happy with the upgrade. The brightness is too good for highway and throw has also improved.

I am not using a ceramic holder for the headlight. Is it required? The accessory guy was of the opinion that it was not required. If required, where can I source them in Bangalore? I think it is better to be on the safer side with headlight and electrical system.

This depends more on your usage pattern.
If you do not drive much at night i.e. with your headlamps on, the stock holders may work. But if you do some long drives at night your stock holders will, in all probability, not hold good with the immense heat generated by these bulbs.
It is always advisable to install ceramic holders with 100/90W bulbs.

[ambidextaurus]

Hi
Went in for H4 100/90 (Halonix ) for my SX4. It says 100/90 CP, not W or watts, on the lamps. What's the difference?
The vendor wasn't sure himself, because it was something he hadn't ever noticed.
Any ideas?

[Sommos]

Originally Posted by ambidextaurus

Hi
Went in for H4 100/90 (Halonix ) for my SX4. It says 100/90 CP, not W or watts, on the lamps. What's the difference?
The vendor wasn't sure himself, because it was something he hadn't ever noticed.
Any ideas?

CP is the abbreviation of Candlepower.

Candlepower is an obsolete unit measuring luminous intensity, equal to 0.981 candela. It expresses levels of light intensity in terms of the light emitted by a candle of specific size and constituents.

In modern usage Candlepower equates directly to the unit known as the candela.

[fine69]

What would be the brightest set of bulbs that I can put in place of the OE fog lamps in my swift? I think those are H7 type but my objective would be to use them during daytime on highway drives as DRLs.

[OmThoke]

Can anybody tell me how much would the HID kit for Cedia sports cost me? I've checked at couple of places, and dealers are telling me around 8k-ish - is that reasonable?

[Sommos]

Originally Posted by fine69

What would be the brightest set of bulbs that I can put in place of the OE fog lamps in my swift? I think those are H7 type but my objective would be to use them during daytime on highway drives as DRLs.

Why would you like to use the fogs as DRL when you can put proper DRL on your Swift.
Take a look at Naveen Raju's Swift in this thread : Swift custom modz

Originally Posted by OmThoke

Can anybody tell me how much would the HID kit for Cedia sports cost me? I've checked at couple of places, and dealers are telling me around 8k-ish - is that reasonable?

A good quality HID with projector should cost much more.
This should be ideal for good results and should cost around 20K.
HID : Philips or Morimoto.
Projector : Morimoto Mini or Hella E55.

I would request you to use HID with projector setup.

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by fine69

What would be the brightest set of bulbs that I can put in place of the OE fog lamps in my swift? I think those are H7 type but my objective would be to use them during daytime on highway drives as DRLs.

As Sommos pointed out, why do you want to use the fogs a DRLs? You can install a set of DRL's on the lower portion of the grill which will look good. I have installed a cheap Chinese product which is pretty good. For something bright, go with Philips DRL's but be prepared to shell out 5k-6k for these. But worth the cash and it's pretty bright.

[fine69]

Originally Posted by naveen.raju

As Sommos pointed out, why do you want to use the fogs a DRLs?

I don't want it for the bling factor but during highway drives in daytime. I did see the DRLs that you got but these wouldn't be as powerful as the fogs.

Also, the bulbs in the fog lamps would be cheap to replace and I can do that every 6 months also if required.

I could even go with a higher wattage than 55 or 60 because the fog lamp reflectors are cheap and can be replaced upon blackening.

[naveen.raju]

Originally Posted by fine69

I don't want it for the bling factor but during highway drives in daytime. I did see the DRLs that you got but these wouldn't be as powerful as the fogs.

Also, the bulbs in the fog lamps would be cheap to replace and I can do that every 6 months also if required.

I could even go with a higher wattage than 55 or 60 because the fog lamp reflectors are cheap and can be replaced upon blackening.

Then the best bet for you is to upgrade the fog lamps with higher wattage bulbs. I wanted something that's not too bright like Philips so went for the Chinese brand. Upgrade your fogs to Philips with higher wattage bulbs.