[abhinav.s]

Originally Posted by ashwin.terminat

This is the price only in Kerala.

And they have screwed Bangalore again with the highest of the 3 prices!! Very unfair. Living in Karnataka that too Bangalore specially is proving costly for petrol heads!!

@Athek, the vibrations upto 7500 put it almost at the point where it produces peak torque! So what speeds does it do say if you take it to about 8000 or 8500 rpm and stay there over extended periods of time? Asking coz, even on the smaller RTR160/180, there is a certain RPM band after which the vibrations on the handle bar and seat is almost negligible and only the foot peg vibes will be evident but not bothersome! If at around 1000 rpm higher there is no vibrations and speeds are sustainable on our highways then it will ideally not be a deal breaker. Or as mentioned in the video, keep it below 6000 rpm when cruising and that should also work well.

[PrasannaDhana]

If I am not wrong, 6000-7500 rpm is the ideal highway cruising speed on most 300cc segmenters.

For example, CBR250R did 95 at 6000rpm and 120 at 7500 rpm. The 390s do 100 at 6000 rpm and *illegal speed* at 7500rpm.

My guess is that RR310 does somewhere about 100-120 in 6000-7500rpm. That is where a lot of cruising is going to happen, and vibes may be a deal breaker for long distance tourers.

[AtheK]

Originally Posted by abhinav.s

And they have screwed Bangalore again with the highest of the 3 prices!! Very unfair. Living in Karnataka that too Bangalore specially is proving costly for petrol heads!!

@Athek, the vibrations upto 7500 put it almost at the point where it produces peak torque! So what speeds does it do say if you take it to about 8000 or 8500 rpm and stay there over extended periods of time? Asking coz, even on the smaller RTR160/180, there is a certain RPM band after which the vibrations on the handle bar and seat is almost negligible and only the foot peg vibes will be evident but not bothersome! If at around 1000 rpm higher there is no vibrations and speeds are sustainable on our highways then it will ideally not be a deal breaker. Or as mentioned in the video, keep it below 6000 rpm when cruising and that should also work well.

I have not stayed on those rpm(7000 and beyond) for a long time to comment as the bike was still in run in. I finished the first servicing today, will comment after my next highway ride. Then again I prefer keeping my bike in range of 90-110, and you get to 100-110 below 6500 rpm. The vibrations are there but not exactly something alarming. Add to it when I am wearing leather gloves they pretty much don't even bother me. Foot pegs do give the feel. Then again I personally don't have much issues, of the approximate 600 km spent on highways I have had fun. It is going to increase more now with run in complete. Keep it around 6000 and 6500,hit the speed of 105-110, cruise all day long.

In the city cruising at around 60 on 6th/5th gear its absolutely no issues and add to it the fact that it heats very less, it becomes awesome to ride. The torque comes in quickly, overtakes are a breeze.

[Sheel]

^You will be able to comment on this aspect with authority after spending at least 8,000-10,000 kms with the bike IMHO.

Currently I ride a FZ-25 and I felt very good about its all aspects but now I find it slow and that, the front suspension should have been more firm for corners. These things were not as noticeable when the bike was new.

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by Sheel

but now I find it slow and that, the front suspension should have been more firm for corners. These things were not as noticeable when the bike was new.

Absolutely! That is what happens with the "new bike" excitement. We don't really notice the minute flaws of it.

Btw, cheers, I find the RC 390 slow too But no surprise as I had the same feeling with my 2014 Duke 390. Boils down to my inability to afford really fast bikes. Lol!

PS: RC390 does vibrate from discrete places at different times at idle. You just can't find the source of vibrations. I don't sweat it as it stops while riding(battery cover is the culprit most of the times).

Speaking of vibrations and TVS, I fondly remember my 80km ride on a rtr180. It was intolerable above 80kmph. I mean you feel it on the bar and on the pegs, clearly. I hope Apache RR310 shouldn't be even half bad as that.

[AtheK]

Originally Posted by Sheel

^You will be able to comment on this aspect with authority after spending at least 8,000-10,000 kms with the bike IMHO.

Currently I ride a FZ-25 and I felt very good about its all aspects but now I find it slow and that, the front suspension should have been more firm for corners. These things were not as noticeable when the bike was new.

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Absolutely! That is what happens with the "new bike" excitement. We don't really notice the minute flaws of it.

Btw, cheers, I find the RC 390 slow too But no surprise as I had the same feeling with my 2014 Duke 390. Boils down to my inability to afford really fast bikes. Lol!

PS: RC390 does vibrate from discrete places at different times at idle. You just can't find the source of vibrations. I don't sweat it as it stops while riding(battery cover is the culprit most of the times).

Speaking of vibrations and TVS, I fondly remember my 80km ride on a rtr180. It was intolerable above 80kmph. I mean you feel it on the bar and on the pegs, clearly. I hope Apache RR310 shouldn't be even half bad as that.

Oh yes absolutely, the new bike fever does let you pass on to couple of flaws. That said vibrations will be something that RR310 will be subjected to always due to two main reasons.

1. Single cylinder engine
2. All plastic body. If you press the body at some angles while it is stationery, it still makes some squeaking sounds.

It will probably boil down to individuals, how much of vibration is acceptable, and how much is not. If refinement is on some one mind, these high capacity bikes with a single cylinder is not where you should anyway look at. The likes of R3, 302r and Ninja 300/400 will serve you much better. Then again there is the price factor, if you have the cash, why compromise anywhere

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by AtheK

It will probably boil down to individuals, how much of vibration is acceptable, and how much is not. If refinement is on some one mind, these high capacity bikes with a single cylinder is not where you should anyway look at.

Ha! No 300cc segmenter is a "high capacity" bike. Talking about high capacity single, Duke 690 may be termed as one.

Coming to Single cylinder + all plastic body, the CBR250R didn't vibrate even a bit at any rpm. Talk about better product quality over TVS and KTM!!

[Amey Kulkarni]

I ride a Ninja 300 with 19,000Kms at the Odo and almost two years old.

It is gem of a machine and reflects its true character through-out the entire RPM band redlining at 13,000RPM approx.

Absolutely marginal vibes even with NO rubber footpegs.

Of course, one will have to pay the premium for the twin 300cc but IMHO it is the best 300-400CC bike which ticks major boxes and is worth every penny for the overall quality and reliability of Kawasaki.

Cheers,
Amey

[AtheK]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Ha! No 300cc segmenter is a "high capacity" bike. Talking about high capacity single, Duke 690 may be termed as one.

Coming to Single cylinder + all plastic body, the CBR250R didn't vibrate even a bit at any rpm. Talk about better product quality over TVS and KTM!!

Well i meant for us mortals, and what we have in India currently. Yup CBR was a gem of machine, pity they never got the 300 or the 250RR to india, would have been a great pick.

Originally Posted by Amey Kulkarni

I ride a Ninja 300 with 19,000Kms at the Odo and almost two years old.

It is gem of a machine and reflects its true character through-out the entire RPM band redlining at 13,000RPM approx.

Absolutely marginal vibes even with NO rubber footpegs.

Of course, one will have to pay the premium for the twin 300cc but IMHO it is the best 300-400CC bike which ticks major boxes and is worth every penny for the overall quality and reliability of Kawasaki.

Cheers,
Amey

Absolutely, and that is where the 400 will shine even better with ABS coming as standard. The only downhill, i am expecting it to hitting the 5 lac mark, when it releases.

[Sutripta]

Originally Posted by Sheel

Currently I ride a FZ-25 and I felt very good about its all aspects but now I find it slow and that, the front suspension should have been more firm for corners.

For excitement, you can downgrade the tyres to Continental (old friend from your CBR 250 days) or ...

Regards
Sutripta

[Motard_Blr]

Originally Posted by Sheel

... the front suspension should have been more firm for corners. ...

This can probably be improved by filling more than the recommended quantity of oil in the fork legs. Add about 10% more at first and test the result. This affects the damping in both compression and rebound.

[Bhatman510]

Originally Posted by Motard_Blr

This can probably be improved by filling more than the recommended quantity of oil in the fork legs. Add about 10% more at first and test the result. This affects the damping in both compression and rebound.

Or if they make it, get a fork brace. Best thing to help with front stability and cornering. Also here in the US we got Race Tech who builds spring emulators and better dampened springs for normal street and race bikes.


https://superbrace.com/ (Fork brace)

http://www.racetech.com/page/id/152 (BMW Link for Race tech)

[stanjohn123]

I finally got my bike 2 days back. For a first time biker this bike is totally awesome. It's really worth every single penny.



Coming to vibrations, it really is not that big of a deal. It should not deter anyone from purchasing this bike.

The amount of presence this bike has on the road is equal or even better than the Ninja even. I'm floored by it.

[AtheK]

Originally Posted by stanjohn123

I finally got my bike 2 days back. For a first time biker this bike is totally awesome. It's really worth every single penny.

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Coming to vibrations, it really is not that big of a deal. It should not deter anyone from purchasing this bike.

The amount of presence this bike has on the road is equal or even better than the Ninja even. I'm floored by it.

Congratulations, yes it is an awesome bIke for begginers, absolutely no doubt. See if you are getting chain sound, as that is one of the most common issues. Wish you many years and miles of happy riding.

[stanjohn123]

Originally Posted by AtheK

Congratulations, yes it is an awesome bIke for begginers, absolutely no doubt. See if you are getting chain sound, as that is one of the most common issues. Wish you many years and miles of happy riding.

Thanks Athek. Yes I am getting the chain sound too which i'm planning to get it checked at first service.

I'm following your ownership thread which is very useful for me.