2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review

avinash_m · 19th November 2015, 19:34

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Originally Posted by condor

The clutch is an all-new setup, It's Self-Adjusting type.

The rear brakes - are these disc or drum type ?

Right Sir; I knew that but since I've never driven the earlier Storme to benchmark it against, my observation was generic and per my limited SUV driving (new Scorpio, Sumo etc.) experience.

Yes, Discs at the rear and a fairly decent sized one I must say! Didn't notice it in the test drive; just zoomed the last pic to check.

Here're the pics; pardon the quality and the number

navpreet318 · 19th November 2015, 19:59

Since both the Landrover 2.2 and the Storme 2.2 engines have the same measurements, seems like the technology shifting has indeed starting. The Freelander 2 had 420 Nm of Torque. Just hope they can maintain good quality and reliability.

durgesh · 19th November 2015, 20:19

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Originally Posted by theexperthand

Are you sure about the price? It seems lesser than the current price. I dont think TATA will reduce the price when they are plonking a new gearbox and engine combo.

--Anoop

Yes, you are right. Even I don't expect TATA to reduce the price after plonking a new gearbox and engine. TATA Safari website indicated Safari Storme VX Ex-showroom price for 4x2 and 4x4 as Rs. 1345011 and Rs. 1482791, respectively. However, I had called Fortune motors, Navi Mumbai in the morning, when the sales representative informed me that though they have not received the vehicle, they have received the price list. On my inquiry about the price he informed me that Ex showroom/ on road (Navi Mumbai) price will be Rs. 12,80,000 / Rs.15,32,000 and Rs. 14,22,000 / 16,85,000 for 4X2 and 4X4 versions, respectively. As the ex-showroom price and on road prices, he indicated are in round figures, even I am suspicious. Will visit the showroom on Saturday.

SuperFlyBoy · 20th November 2015, 03:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by avinash_m

The clutch felt light by SUV standards and engaged in less than half travel (fully pressed).

Quote:

Originally Posted by condor

The clutch is an all-new setup, It's Self-Adjusting type.

Wow - this is probably why the earlier VX 4x4 Storme I test drove about 2 months ago (latest before the Varicor 400) was so *easy* to clutch - it was almost easier than driving a normal car!

I went back into my 2006 Dicor and it was pure pain to push down the clutch to shift gears. (Apparently need to have my clutch replaced)

rosaf · 20th November 2015, 09:20

First of all a very warm welcome to the FIRST TML 6 speed gear boxed passenger vehicle in this chilly winter.

Second of all , now what was the big deal in not introducing the same gear box in LX and EX trims? ie if its gonna be that way and i guess time will tell us that.

Third of all what will be its effect on the mileage, will ARAI figures go up ?

Thanks and Regards,
Rosaf!

condor · 20th November 2015, 10:11

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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

Wow - this is probably why the earlier VX 4x4 Storme I test drove about 2 months ago (latest before the Varicor 400) was so *easy* to clutch - it was almost easier than driving a normal car!

The refreshed Storme also has the Self-Adjusting Clutch.

We checked with TML folks. But it cant be retrofitted into the 2012-2015 Stormes. Too many components are different.

avinash_m · 20th November 2015, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by theexperthand

Are you sure about the price? It seems lesser than the current price. I dont think TATA will reduce the price when they are plonking a new gearbox and engine combo.

--Anoop

Quote:

Originally Posted by durgesh

Yes, you are right. Even I don't expect TATA to reduce the price after plonking a new gearbox and engine. TATA Safari website indicated Safari Storme VX Ex-showroom price for 4x2 and 4x4 as Rs. 1345011 and Rs. 1482791, respectively. However, I had called Fortune motors, Navi Mumbai in the morning, when the sales representative informed me that though they have not received the vehicle, they have received the price list. On my inquiry about the price he informed me that Ex showroom/ on road (Navi Mumbai) price will be Rs. 12,80,000 / Rs.15,32,000 and Rs. 14,22,000 / 16,85,000 for 4X2 and 4X4 versions, respectively. As the ex-showroom price and on road prices, he indicated are in round figures, even I am suspicious. Will visit the showroom on Saturday.

Forgot to post on this most important aspect; there's a price increase of approx. 23K OTR Hyd for VX models. I've both the pre/post upgrade quote sheets; will try and post pics of those in few hours, from home.

rajismine · 20th November 2015, 16:54

And here is the Final Deal - 6 Speed Safari Storme 400nm

avinash_m · 20th November 2015, 18:08

Adding Price Quotes; Storme details are towards the bottom. First one is the pre-upgrade and latter post-upgrade.

** These are Hyderabad specific quotations **

Can some one throw some light on 'Basic Accessories'; why is this separately charged and what all does it include? I'd noticed this earlier but forgot to ask the sales -rep.

CharlesA · 20th November 2015, 20:16

Test drove the 2015 model last week, clutch is really light. Does not feel like a diesel vehicle at all. The SA called me later to inform about the new launch for VX trim. After my troubles with the earlier Storme am skeptical though, especially with a new gear box and 156 bhp engine.

breezydrive · 20th November 2015, 23:01

Just too lazy to scan the previous posts, is the new engine being launched in only VX trim?

WorkingGuru · 20th November 2015, 23:40

Guys, you'll only tell, isn't this a stupid time to launch a car ?

End-November will barely register any units.
December is always a low sales month with clearance offers.

Obviously this quarter will end with unimpressive numbers even though there are new launches!

Apparently they're formulating a low end version of the HEXA (Aria) so as to reduce the starting price. (I'm told so by someone at Tata).

But IMHO they should price it very competitively to bring the crowds in. Maybe once the car gets more visibility (first 2 months) then they can later up the prices.

In any case, service should be such that a person shouldn't feel hesitant to leave his 17L at TASC.

P.S. : Also, another input by the same person : the new self adjusting clutch could be MUCH cheaper than the current one. Not sure if it can be retrofitted in old Stormes though (quite possibly it can't IMO)

durgesh · 21st November 2015, 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by theexperthand

Are you sure about the price? It seems lesser than the current price. I dont think TATA will reduce the price when they are plonking a new gearbox and engine combo.

--Anoop

I visited the Fortune Cars Dealer, Navi Mumbai and have got the price list.

sourabhzen · 21st November 2015, 17:18

Experts, what will be the difference in between 320 and 400 on day to day driving?

dkamath · 21st November 2015, 18:02

The info says the vehicle can hold up in higher gears at lower rpm's. If it makes you feel better, higher gears in city drives is a virtual reality that blips within a few secs of slotting :-) . But yes, highway cruising will improve.
Offtopic, but am in a much similar feeling that you are in after going in for the VX about 5 months ago, hehe. The additional torque will have certainly helped me cruise the upward ghat drives to Bangalore. But otherwise, am very much satisfied with the purchase. The vehicle is much more silent and trimmed compared with our earlier Dicor. Not spoiling my party over this news ;-)

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navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,264 Thanked: 2,983 Times	Re: 2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review Since both the Landrover 2.2 and the Storme 2.2 engines have the same measurements, seems like the technology shifting has indeed starting. The Freelander 2 had 420 Nm of Torque. Just hope they can maintain good quality and reliability.
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20th November 2015, 09:20	#470
rosaf BHPian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: pune Posts: 132 Thanked: 178 Times	Re: 2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review First of all a very warm welcome to the FIRST TML 6 speed gear boxed passenger vehicle in this chilly winter. Second of all , now what was the big deal in not introducing the same gear box in LX and EX trims? ie if its gonna be that way and i guess time will tell us that. Third of all what will be its effect on the mileage, will ARAI figures go up ? Thanks and Regards, Rosaf!
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rajismine BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 539 Thanked: 280 Times View My Garage	Re: 2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review And here is the Final Deal - 6 Speed Safari Storme 400nm Attached Thumbnails
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20th November 2015, 18:08	#474
avinash_m BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 367 Thanked: 470 Times	Re: 2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review Adding Price Quotes; Storme details are towards the bottom. First one is the pre-upgrade and latter post-upgrade. These are Hyderabad specific quotations Can some one throw some light on 'Basic Accessories'; why is this separately charged and what all does it include? I'd noticed this earlier but forgot to ask the sales -rep. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by avinash_m : 20th November 2015 at 18:17. Reason: adding info
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20th November 2015, 20:16	#475
CharlesA BHPian Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Bangalore Posts: 50 Thanked: 28 Times	Re: 2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review Test drove the 2015 model last week, clutch is really light. Does not feel like a diesel vehicle at all. The SA called me later to inform about the new launch for VX trim. After my troubles with the earlier Storme am skeptical though, especially with a new gear box and 156 bhp engine.
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20th November 2015, 23:01	#476
breezydrive BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NOIDA Posts: 750 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Re: 2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review Just too lazy to scan the previous posts, is the new engine being launched in only VX trim?
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20th November 2015, 23:40	#477
WorkingGuru BHPian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bangalore Posts: 529 Thanked: 2,213 Times	Re: 2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review Guys, you'll only tell, isn't this a stupid time to launch a car ? End-November will barely register any units. December is always a low sales month with clearance offers. Obviously this quarter will end with unimpressive numbers even though there are new launches! Apparently they're formulating a low end version of the HEXA (Aria) so as to reduce the starting price. (I'm told so by someone at Tata). But IMHO they should price it very competitively to bring the crowds in. Maybe once the car gets more visibility (first 2 months) then they can later up the prices. In any case, service should be such that a person shouldn't feel hesitant to leave his 17L at TASC. P.S. : Also, another input by the same person : the new self adjusting clutch could be MUCH cheaper than the current one. Not sure if it can be retrofitted in old Stormes though (quite possibly it can't IMO)
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21st November 2015, 17:18	#479
sourabhzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: GURGAON Posts: 1,591 Thanked: 1,401 Times View My Garage	Re: 2015 Tata Safari Storme : Official Review Experts, what will be the difference in between 320 and 400 on day to day driving?
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21st November 2015, 18:02	#480
dkamath BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 577 Thanked: 155 Times	The info says the vehicle can hold up in higher gears at lower rpm's. If it makes you feel better, higher gears in city drives is a virtual reality that blips within a few secs of slotting :-) . But yes, highway cruising will improve. Offtopic, but am in a much similar feeling that you are in after going in for the VX about 5 months ago, hehe. The additional torque will have certainly helped me cruise the upward ghat drives to Bangalore. But otherwise, am very much satisfied with the purchase. The vehicle is much more silent and trimmed compared with our earlier Dicor. Not spoiling my party over this news ;-)
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