[Doge]

Originally Posted by pgsagar

I have been a bit too harsh on S-Cross and I even said sorry for that. And I have moved on. Did you see any anti S-Cross remark in my latest post. Yes, I consider Jazz superior to S-Cross. How is that a harsh comment against S-Cross. If you are entitled to your opinion, then so am I. And speaking about my enthusiasm against S-Cross, mine was only against S-Cross (not against Maruti) but I have also seen your enthusiasm against Honda cars.

Can you please explain why do feel so or is it just a personal preference? I own a City and I found the S Cross to be better in almost every way,forget the cheap Jazz.

[thiyags22]

Just to add to the upgrade debate, Upgrade can be both subjective and objective. There is no one rule for defining whether buying a particular car is an upgrade. In fact I don't think of buying a new car in terms of upgrade, I would buy a car that appeals to my mind and heart.

I currently own what people call a sedan (Ford Ikon) and considering the S-Cross which is being called as a oversized hatch by some, as my next purchase. The S-Cross is leagues ahead of the Ikon in every department except probably the sheer driving pleasure. So for me the sedan < hatchback. Basically it is an individual preference I believe.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Too bad the 1.6 doesn't get AWD. Could have silenced all critics that call this a hatchback rather than a crossover, just for the looks.

Here's one of the few videos I could find on the S-cross AWD. Of course, a hardcore SUV can do better. A crossover is something that tries to achieve the best of both worlds. Even in 2WD version, S-Cross should fare good enough for most people's on road and "off road" (that usually means village roads for 99.9% of carbuyers)

http://youtu.be/K9YExwGSHrw

And here's the Euro NCAP test results for S-Cross. Shows frontal impact, side impact and ESC capabilities -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWFuY00_x4A

[sreepathy]

Got a chance to test drive Creta last week. The Hyundai rep was saying that an AWD version of Creta will be launched in six months’ time. Don’t know how true this is. But if it turns out to be true, won’t it make sense to MS to launch S-Cross with an AWD here?

[shivasuma]

Originally Posted by sreepathy

Got a chance to test drive Creta last week. The Hyundai rep was saying that an AWD version of Creta will be launched in six months’ time. Don’t know how true this is. But if it turns out to be true, won’t it make sense to MS to launch S-Cross with an AWD here?

I believe most manufacturers have become reactive rather than proactive. Unless someone ups the bar, don't think anyone else will try to be proactive. Well, most of the times atleast. If Creta gets AWD, then I am sure others will follow suit.

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by sreepathy

But if it turns out to be true, won't it make sense to MS to launch S-Cross with an AWD here?

Originally Posted by shivasuma

I believe most manufacturers have become reactive rather than proactive.

Whenever Maruti will give the S Cross a facelift, following will be added:

1) Rear AC Vents
2) AWD (As an option at least)
3) A petrol engine (Fingers crossed)

[S2!!!]

Originally Posted by S2!!!

For the shades offered on the S-Cross, Maruti has stuck to more conservative colours like grey, silver & white, with brown and blue being the two standout options. Can you have it in black? Unfortunately not! That said, I think the S-Cross in a lighter shade brings out the best contrast with the black body cladding.

Saw a white S-Cross Alpha this morning (not sure if it is a 1.6 or 1.3). It looked incredibly boring with the bland colour and the bland wheels. Black wheels and blackened headlamp bezels can significantly transform the exteriors. Still I'd say that a lighter exterior shade brings out the best contrast with the black body cladding.

[pannags]

Originally Posted by RavSam

What if the stock alloys are blackened out somewhat like this?
Attachment 1405498

The front wheels look way better and should not cost a bomb.

Originally Posted by S2!!!

Saw a white S-Cross Alpha this morning (not sure if it is a 1.6 or 1.3). It looked incredibly boring with the bland colour and the bland wheels. Black wheels and blackened headlamp bezels can significantly transform the exteriors. Still I'd say that a lighter exterior shade brings out the best contrast with the black body cladding.

I hope the Silver doesn't come anywhere close. I've seen both together and the Silver looked much better, but that was already late in the evening.

[opendro]

Originally Posted by thiyags22

Just to add to the upgrade debate, Upgrade can be both subjective and objective. There is no one rule for defining whether buying a particular car is an upgrade.

Upgrade is always about quality and appeal rather than quantity/space. Even a small item, sometimes even cheaper, has more appeal than a bigger or even costlier item, that would be an upgrade. You might say, what appeals to me does not appeal to you. That is very unlikely but often we get confused with requirements vs appeal. For instance, a nice and small villa on the outskirt might appeal to me than a big boxed apartment in the middle of the town, but my requirement is a big boxed apartment in the middle of the town. So, I buy the apartment. But I would still wish that I could have a bigger villa of the same quality in the middle of the town.

With the congested space in city, people are finding small cars more suitable, but small cars in India always lacked the appeal of a premium segment car as safety, ride, handling, features, looks, etc. were lacking in small cars segment. That is exactly what more manufacturers are trying to tap into - make more premium small cars. They should always be considered an upgrade irrespective of the size and price.

Tomorrow, someone launches a car of the same size and shape - everything of a S-Cross and with the handling of an Octavia RS, that will be an upgrade :-D Off-topic. I'm just praying that Punto Abarth comes in sub-10 lakh. That will be a mini Octavia.

[a4anurag]

Maruti Suzuki Hikes Prices; S-Cross to Remain Unaffected

According to reports, Maruti Suzuki introduced a price hike across its entire range with the sole exception of the S-Cross. The hike, that apparently has been in effect since August 11, 2015, translates to an increase in prices by Rs. 3,000 - Rs. 9,000. Hyundai also increased prices by upto Rs. 30,000 last month. One must note that Hyundai's price hike also excluded the Creta SUV, which was also launched 10 days before the price hike.

Though the company is yet to make an announcement, it is said the revised prices are to accommodate "changes in dealer margin and a minor calibration in prices".

http://auto.ndtv.com/news/maruti-suz...fected-1209659

[keroo1099]

At the price point most of us are talking about, you will always have to compromise on certain aspects of the car, be it looks, performance or features. The choice you make will depend on what’s important to you and/or your family. Most or all of us are a part of this group because we love cars, so a little criticism, warranted or un-warranted shouldn’t bother/influence those who really care about their steed.

On a lighter note, I did visit the NEXA showroom off Museum Road and found the 1.6 to be more responsive than the 1.3 for city driving. Even without the turbo spooling up the initial torque was noticeably more when feathering the throttle in stop go traffic. The 1.6 is very similar in ‘feel’ to my T-Jet (even has the same long throw clutch), except that it’s a diesel, and surprisingly rolls less than the T-Jet on its raised suspension.

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Whenever Maruti will give the S Cross a facelift, following will be added:

1) Rear AC Vents
2) AWD (As an option at least)
3) A petrol engine (Fingers crossed)

I agree with the last two points, but I doubt the 1st one. Maruti simply won't bother to take the pains to re-engineer even a plastic panel. Unless it is offered by Suzuki globally, Maruti won't add rear AC vents and as far as I know, S-Cross lacks this feature globally also.

Regards
Shashi

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by opendro

Tomorrow, someone launches a car of the same size and shape - everything of a S-Cross and with the handling of an Octavia RS, that will be an upgrade :-D Off-topic. I'm just praying that Punto Abarth comes in sub-10 lakh. That will be a mini Octavia.

Well, the official review says that the DDiS320 is the mini Octavia you are looking for, even though it might not be an RS.

This 1.6L engine is the new torque king. The 320 Nm of torque is the same as the more expensive Jetta / Octavia and significantly higher than the norms of this segment. It is a real cracker of a diesel, albeit with one flaw - turbo lag!

Open road performance is very impressive. No surprise as the torque-to-weight ratio is higher than the Jetta & Octavia! You can easily keep up with - and pass - more expensive cars on the expressway.

There is only one way to say it = On-road behaviour is more European than Japanese. The way that the S-Cross can mask speeds is commendable...or downright dangerous - whichever way you look at it!

The stability is rock solid. Credit must be given to the excellent driving dynamics of this car. The S-Cross feels tight and eager to change direction without ever feeling skittish or nervous when cornering. Due to the jacked-up ground clearance (180 mm), there is body roll, yet it's not something you'd find unnerving.

As the owner of a Punto myself, Abarth TJet is a very exciting proposition indeed. However, that doesn't take anything away from this cracker of a 1.6 diesel, which seems to be as good as a small diesel gets in this price band.

[volkman10]

Tyre experts, need advice on changing of stock tyres of JK Elanzo 205/60 R16 as alternate.
Which of the below three are best suited for city drive (99.9%)?

1. Good Year
2. Michelin
3. Bridgestone

Thanks,

[IshaanIan]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Tyre experts, need advice on changing of stock tyres of JK Elanzo 205/60 R16 to alternate.
Which of the below three are best suited for city drive (99.9%)?

1. Good Year
2. Michelin
3. Bridgestone

Thanks,

It isn't really about the brand but the model. If you want a quiet comfortable ride, look at Michelin Primacys or Yokohama Decibels Not sure if the model is on sale everywhere, but if you can get your hands on Yokohama Advan DB tyres, there is nothing like it. They offer the quiet and comfortable ride you expect from a decibel tyre and some impressive grip levels that one would normally expect from more sport oriented tyres