[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by Joelinf

I tried contacting boodmo; they were of no help - only asking to go for a return and not helping me to get the left side garnish. Is there any other way to get? Thank you. I am attaching the photos.

This is now typical Boodmo behaviour. The customer service has been on a downward spiral since some months now & I have had very poor experience in returns in last 2 months. The products are often even delivered with different product ID than what was ordered, and the order shows automatically changed product ID with a note of auto-update.

Anyway - just go ahead and return the part (seek god's blessings in case Delhivery is going to pick up the return, thats another horrible experience) & get a refund from boodmo - for the 1 wrong part. The correct part - keep it.

The missing side part - you can simply go to nearest MASC and order from their product catalogue. And pick up once reaches the workshop. Most MASCs are quite helpful in this regard (unlike the joke called VW ASC - "We don't sell spares off the counter, bring the car here & fit it via our service").

[Joelinf]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

This is now typical Boodmo behaviour. The customer service has been on a downward spiral since some months now & I have had very poor experience in returns in last 2 months.


Most MASCs are quite helpful in this regard (unlike the joke called VW ASC - "We don't sell spares off the counter, bring the car here & fit it via our service").

Thank you, Reinhard. I will keep one of them and return one. For the missing part, I have contacted an MASC, who has promised delivery within 15 days. Thanks again.

[WhiteKnight]

Surprise!! We picked up a used Ignis Alpha AMT. This is my first Maruti Suzuki car since 2012, when we let go our Baleno.

We're going through a garage upgrade over the last year and half.
We let go Verna AT last year and in came Jeep Compass S 4x4. Compass was sharing garage with Skoda Laura Tsi. Two things have changed since.
1. I started having a liking to Jeep Compass, over Laura. Jeep Compass is by no means quick compared to Laura, however, it is easier to live with in varying terrains, and also easy to use over long drives. May be my age is catching up!
2. Skoda Laura is hoot to drive, but not finding takers in the family dominated by woman drivers, as it is manual.

So, out goes Laura, and search was on for replacement, which won't go head on with Jeep Compass. We did not want to have a debate on which vehicle to take on road trips. This was common situation with Laura and Compass, as Laura scores big time with huge boot, and my affinity to drive it on open roads.

We decided we shall spend less and look for Electric car in the future. We did look at new i20- used. Stunning looking car!! Decided against it due to the cost and size

Grand i10- Good car, but looks normal, compared to Ignis.

Tata Tiago- Good car, easy to drive. Found AMT lacking a bit compared to Ignis. Also, we have one in close family.

Electric Tiago- Waiting period and cost are against it

Ignis- Looks odd and unique!! For me, this looks like poor man's Mini Cooper.

So the hunt was on for Ignis Alpha AMT, which is kind of rare. However we found one and travelled across the city to close the deal.

What I like- As mentioned, this has an odd design- I like it.

I need guidance on,
1- Front suspension seem to crash a lot, when drive hard. I know this is small car and I am spoiled. However, is there any upgrade possible?
2- Max tyre upsizing on stock alloys possible?


Thank you. Happy mile munching!!

[driver52001]

Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

2- Max tyre upsizing on stock alloys possible?

The ideal tyre upsize in stock alloys doesn't exist for Ignis, unfortunately. The alloy width is 5J. So 1) 185/60/R15 lowers ground clearance and makes tyre diameter and aspect ratio smaller. Ignis suspension is stiff; this size will make it even more bouncy and hard. 2) 185/65/R15 increases ground clearance and makes the already 180 mm tall boy wobbly (personal experience) and 3) 195/60/R15 has the least deviation and the best balance of handling and grip, but 195 mm recommended minimum rim width is 5.5J, which is not in the case of Ignis. If you want to risk it, go with 195/60/R15. Many members here have got 195. I did run 195 for some time before switching back to stock size. Reason being the 195 seems to be ballooning out in the 5J rims. But it changed how the car behaved, turned into a good handler, fast lane switch and high speed stability were awesome. I did a 7,000 km run from Delhi to Mangaluru and other states to and fro in Ignis with 195 and the experience was out of the world. All the best.

PS: Anyone here who has been using 195 in Ignis stock rims for minimum two years? What's your experience?

[shebin]

Originally Posted by driver52001

The ideal tyre upsize in stock alloys doesn't exist for Ignis, unfortunately. The alloy width is 5J. So 1) 185/60/R15 lowers ground clearance and makes tyre diameter and aspect ratio smaller. Ignis suspension is stiff; this size will make it even more bouncy and hard. 2) 185/65/R15 increases ground clearance and makes the already 180 mm tall boy wobbly (personal experience) and 3) 195/60/R15 has the least deviation and the best balance of handling and grip, but 195 mm recommended minimum rim width is 5.5J, which is not in the case of Ignis. If you want to risk it, go with 195/60/R15. Many members here have got 195. I did run 195 for some time before switching back to stock size. Reason being the 195 seems to be ballooning out in the 5J rims. But it changed how the car behaved, turned into a good handler, fast lane switch and high speed stability were awesome. I did a 7,000 km run from Delhi to Mangaluru and other states to and fro in Ignis with 195 and the experience was out of the world. All the best.

PS: Anyone here who has been using 195 in Ignis stock rims for minimum two years? What's your experience?

I am currently using 195 -yoko earth from past 5 years.Covered 55k km and is due for change in onether 5k kms.I never faced any issues and on the other hand it made the car really fun to drive and extremely confident inspiring on highways. Ignis is a great car provided you upgrade the tyres and know how to keep the k series 1.2 in power band on highways.

[vtron12]

Used the dimension sketches of the car from Ignis's official brochure to make a couple of wallpapers for my phone. Thought I would share it here. Personally I found it really cool

[driver52001]

Originally Posted by shebin

I am currently using 195 -yoko earth from past 5 years.

Thanks for this information. Do you think the 195 balloons out or bulges quite a bit in the stock 5J alloys? Or you have changed the alloys to aftermarket? Also, one last query: did the air escape quicker/needed refill frequently than a stock size tyre would under normal circumstances? Thanks

[DCEite]

Having a Tigor XZA AMT 2017 in the garage (Review here (First one on Team-BHP: Tata Tigor XZA (AMT))), we started hunt for a second car early this year due to requirement of a second car at home.

Prmary requirements:

1. Car should have small footprint and nimble to handle within city.
2. Petrol MT only, since we already have an AMT to give rest to left foot, and to add that "engagment" while driving which can't be matched by any AT.
3. Car should be prefereably 4 cylinder engined, since I do not want to have another 3 cylinder (even turbo charged) car in the garage. No 3 cylinder engine can match the smoothness of a 4 cylinder unit, period.
4. The car should have factory fitted Android Auto/Apple Carplay touchscreen infotainment unit. I really do not like getting aftermarket Touchscreen ICE retrofitted. Suffered a lot in the Tigor, even though the SQ is fantastic from the stock harman non-touch screen system, the lack of Apple carplay means I need to connect mobile to car holders for using Maps, and most car mobile holders go kaput within few months or weeks. And the fact that having integrated reverse parking camera display on the HU makes taking reverse so much easier.

Cars shortlisted:

With the above requirements in mind, we went for car hunting during March/April 2022.

1. Hyundai Santro:

We liked Hundai Santro atleast on paper since it came with a 4 cylinder unit. And in the showroom, the car felt to have good space inside for the size of the car. The TD vehicle was not available. However, the salesman hinted that the dealership is no longer receiving fresh units from company and they cannot commit on any delivery timelines. Surprised by this statement, we crosschecked with another dealer, and he confirmed that production is stopped and the car maybe discontinued in near future. And correct he was. The Santro was eventually discontinued from Indian car market in May'22. Anyway, we had removed the car from the shortlist.

2. Maruti Suzuki S-Presso:

I had a soft corner for this car. GTO's drive impressions on this car in various thread had me got interested in S-Presso, even though it did not meet the selection criteria of 4 cylinder unit. I test drove the car, and indeed the engine felt peppy, the overall visibility of the car is quite good, and the ride quality over bad roads felt composed for a car of its size. However, second half immediately rejected the car in the Arena showroom, as the car's interior didn't have any "feel good" factor and felt like a taller version of Alto.

3. Maruti Suzuki Swift

The Swift in the same Arena showroom as S-Presso felt considerably better in every area (I know both are different segments, but when you have a give and take of 1-2 lacs difference in price, you tend to compare cars across segments). The test drive of the vehicle was uneventful and the engine felt reasonably peppy and refined. Salesperson gave an estimate of around a month waiting period and discount of only 10k. The variant within our budget was the VXi. But the VXi loses on a lot of goodies , most importantly, no stock Android Auto/Apple Carplay system, lack of engine stop/start button, keyless entry, and thinner tyres compared to ZXi/ZXi. The Swift also didn't felt like a car that you can throw in and out of traffic easily, perhaps due to its low seating position and medium footprint.
Moreover the Swift VXi was costly when compared to another car in Maruti's stable that I had in mind (The IGNIS), so I wanted to check the Ignis at Nexa showroom before considering Swift.

4. Maruti Suzuki Ignis

The next was Ignis. As soon as we entered the Nexa showroom (which is at a walking distance of the Arena showroom we visited), we instantly felt a sense of positivity, perhaps due to a combination of factors like a much better maintained showroom, a polite and eager to answer salesman, the general level of customer centric attitude of the staff, like offering snacks, tea, cofee and arranging for comfortable seating for all 4 family members and taking time to explain variant details and features, etc. In contrast, the Arena showroom felt like a government office from the 90's, with the staff barely interested or enthusiastic to sell, with the attitute of "take it or leave it".

Anyway, both me and better half took a test drive of the Ignis and everything felt perfectly at home, be it the driving position, the commanding view of the road, the overall visibility, the smooth K-series engine and a lovely combo of slick gearshift and well weighed albeit a bit light clutch. It felt as if the car compensated every negative aspect of the Tigor (Although Tigor compensates for a lot of Negatives of the Ignis, more on this later), and the two would make for a decent entry level car garage. We shortlisted the Zeta variant, it had all the features we needed like Smarplya touchscreen with Android Auto/Apple carplay, Push button start/stop, Keyless entry, 15 inch alloy wheels etc but not the rear view camera (Why Maruti, why ? ) and front seat height adjustment. As for the camera, the same was offered by the sales team as complimentary and fitted at dealership level at the day of delivery. We agreed. For the seat height adjust, neither me nor better half found any issue with the default seat height of the Zeta variant, so it was not a deal breaker. The icing on the cake was immediate delivery (within a week) for our favourite colour - Nexa Blue and the discounts on offer were to the tune of 25k. I understand now the discounts on Ignis are even higher to the tune of 30-40k.
Fast forward to 20th May 2022, after completing all formalities and paperwork including PDI (The car had done 11 kms on the meter and manufactured on 26th April 2022), we welcomed new addition to our family : Maruti Suzuki Ignis Zeta MT Nexa Blue.

Here is a brief review of my ownership experience for the last 6 months, having clocked only 3800 kms till date (being second car):

Pros:

1) Engine and gearbox. Its not only about outright performance or healthy power to weight ratio, the engine shines in refinement and very good fuel efficiency figures. The engine never feels out of breadth for most of its RPM range. However the sweet spot starts after 1800 rpm, and once you cross 2000 rpm, a gentle push on the accelarator is all it takes to wake up all 82 horses with a beautiful throaty exhaust note which isn't harsh like Tata's Revotron or boomy like Hyundai's Kappa series. If you learn to keep the engine above 1800 rpm, you'll enjoy its characterstics. The gear ratios are well tuned, and 3rd gear works almost like an Automatic - the engine picks up speeds from as low as 20 kmpl in 3rd gear right upto 80-90 kmph. Remindes me somewhat of earstwhile Maruti Esteem.

As for the fuel efficiency figures, so far it has always managed to do a tankful to tankful in the range of 15-17kmpl in city traffic with AC on all the time. Even when driven hard, the fuel efficiency from the 4 cylinder unit doesn't drop significantly, yielding a minimum of 15 kmpl.

Maruti has mated the engine to a slick shifting, smooth as butter and short throw gearbox. Sometimes, when I am bored I just take out the Ignis to drive on empty road just to experience the slick gearshifting . Add to that a clutch which is light and progressive, you'll not miss an AT transmission much, until when you are in bumper to bumper traffic ofcourse.

3) All round visibility and agility. One needs to drive a small car like the size of Ignis in city traffic to undrestand that Fun to drive can also mean driving a car that can be manoevered like an Autorikshaw, quick lane changes are easy and all round visibility makes getting in and out of traffic a breeze. No more fearing rowdy bikers, you can be one of them, well almost (just kidding, no offence meant).

4) 180 mm ground clearence. Helps a lot when driven over bad roads and one need not worry about bottom scraping on worst of speed breakers (My Gen 1 WagonR used to scrape bad speedbreakers with 165mm ground clearence).

5) Maruti's after sales. Need not say much about it. Nearest Nexa station is 300 meters and Arena service station is 500 meters away. Enough said. They are literally, in every nook and corner of the country.

Cons:

1) Ride quality. The ride quality on the Ignis is stiff. At low speeds, you will feel every bump and it can get irritating if you drive frequently over potholed or roads with many speedbrekaers (specially the small ones and rumble strips). On the flip side, the high speed stability is good by Maruti small car standards. Much better compared to WagonR/Celerio. Although latter at the cost of high speed stability have softer suspension setup.

2) Build quality. Not good, Maruti. My other car is a TATA Tigor, and Ignis in comparison feels like the whole external body is made of plastic. The doors are feather light. The bonnet and boot doors have adequate weight though. There is no "reassuring thud" when you close the passenger doors, infact the thump is quite discouraging, lol. However, the fact that Ignis has scored 3 Star GNCAP (or was it Latin NCAP ?) , so better than most small Maruti's including Swift, WagonR, Celerio, S-Presso, Alto and other small cars like Grand i10/Datsun go etc.

3) Road noise and NVH. Even though the engine itself is refined at idle, as you build up speeds you can hear the engine note. But that doesn't irritate me, what does is the traffic noise. Maruti has skipped on quality insulating materials specially the window glass, which seems to be of thinner quality. Then there is the Horn which feels is positioned inside cabin instead of outside, its sounds abnormally loud inside !

5) Gearing not suited for highway runs. The car does around 2600-2800 rpm @100 kmph in 5th gear, and if you cruise at this speed or beyond this the fuel efficiency figures will not be as good and the engine doesn't feel relaxed. Perhaps the car needs a 6th gear or a taller gear ratio. But then, this is not a highway car per se.


4) Moody Smartplay infotainment. I have had multiple instances of Android Auto getting hanged in middle of Google maps navigation. Got it checked by Harman engineer at Maruti's Nexa workshop during first service, he downplayed it to faulty phone or cable, even though I insisted the issue is identified even with original cable and different handset. No solution till now.

A note on How the Ignis MT and Tigor AMT compliment each other in the same garage:

The Ignis and Tigor are very opposite in some of their characterstics, yet they help negate and fill the void created by each other so as to make a more "balanced" garage. The bumpy ride of the Ignis is offset by Tigor's relatively mature and plusher ride and handling. The noisy and unrefined engine of the Tigor on the other hand is compensated by the smooth and refined unit on the Ignis. And as obvious as it may sound, having an MT and AT combo in the garage has its own advantages. Then the fact that TATA's after sales is a hit or a miss, but the Maruti's A.S.S. is more widespread and consistent. The Ignis's steering while very light lacks feedback and doesn't center back to its position completely (there is still 5% margin, a lot of improvement over pre-2020 model though), the Tigor's steering is relatively well weighed and has more feedback, and ofcourse centers back completely after U-turns.


I am not good at clicking photos and feel a bit awkward clicking cars, but here are some random shots I have on my phone:

Getting HSRP:



Side Profile (This is most recent pic, notice a dent already on fender area and bonnet ) :




Playing hide and seek with Sun:

[zaid qazi]

So went to magic Noida Patparganj for the PDI of my Ignis sigma in nexa blue color, although I had booked it from the noida sector 137 branch of magic auto but their stockyard is at Patparganj so had to go to their stockyard for PDI and everything went well. Handed over the cheque to my relationship manager and waiting for the delivery which is scheduled on 3rd December.

[driver52001]

Originally Posted by DCEite

3) Road noise and NVH.

Change to Continental UC6 in stock size. The factory fitted Ecopia is rock hard and sounds like Metallica live. UC6 is quite silent and grippy for Ignis. Absorbs bumps up to a point but won't get rid of the stiff ride entirely. Ecopia is the reason behind Ignis getting a bad name in NVH, in my experience. You'll be amazed how much Ignis NVH improves only by investing on good rubber.

[shebin]

PS: Anyone here who has been using 195 in Ignis stock rims for minimum two years? What's your experience?[/quote]

Originally Posted by driver52001

Thanks for this information. Do you think the 195 balloons out or bulges quite a bit in the stock 5J alloys? Or you have changed the alloys to aftermarket? Also, one last query: did the air escape quicker/needed refill frequently than a stock size tyre would under normal circumstances? Thanks

Running on stock alloys only. No issues faced till now. There was no bulging or air escape issues too. Not sure about other brands of tyres.

[lxskllr]

Originally Posted by DCEite

Cons:

1) Ride quality

4) Moody Smartplay infotainment.

Try the following if possible

1) Ride quality - Tyre upgrade and right pressure. Get the stock size but, move to Continental. I have personally experience better ride quality when moving from MRF to Contis.

4) Moody Smartplay infotainment. - Get this updated at the nearest service station. I believe some of these issues were addressed in the latest patch MD 0921 version software

[fhdowntheline]

Interesting choice, I was looking at the Ignis too but eventually went in favour of a manual Tiago. I dont think the recent Tiago petrol units are very harsh in terms of NVH.

[YashOjha15]

Good morning everyone,
My family is planning to buy a new car this December due to the discounts being offered.
We have planned to buy the Maruti Suzuki Celerio ZXI+ MT in White Color.
But after seeing the discounts being offered on Ignis, I am confused whether to go for the Ignis or the Celerio.
https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...s-month-426625
https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...-presso-426537
The new car will be replacing our 2006 Tata Indica GLS XETA.
I want suggestions from fellow members on this.
Whether to go for the Ignis or the Celerio

[DCEite]

Originally Posted by YashOjha15

Good morning everyone,
My family is planning to buy a new car this December due to the discounts being offered.
We have planned to buy the Maruti Suzuki Celerio ZXI+ MT in White Color.
But after seeing the discounts being offered on Ignis, I am confused whether to go for the Ignis or the Celerio.
https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...s-month-426625
https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...-presso-426537
The new car will be replacing our 2006 Tata Indica GLS XETA.
I want suggestions from fellow members on this.
Whether to go for the Ignis or the Celerio

Since you are replacing the Indica Xeta, you might not like the ride quality on the Ignis, or the light build. Same for other Maruti's in your shortlist.

If you can, increase your budget and consider the Tata Punch. Barring an engine which feels underpowered for the weight and size of the car, the Punch has a lot more going for it in terms of better ride quality, better space and ofcourse 5 star GNCAP rating.

If you could let us know your budget, perhaps we can come up with more such recommendations and cars that can match the ride comfort and space of your Indica.