[petrolhead777]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

Cannot speak for DEL, but in BLR the OTR then would have been ~57L after discount. Maybe you can back-calculate from the DEL OTR, and then take a call.

I'd think if the reason for sale is genuine + full service history + ability to buy BRI, it's a reasonable deal. At least in BLR, even seeing a pre-owned G20 330i is rare!

So its from premium selection with bsi and bri plus for 4 years.

I can extend it till 6 years and they said its niggle free and they have done some work on tie rods when they inspected it thoroughly.

OTR here was 53L or so. I think i can haggle till 40L. Thinking of closing the deal as they need to bill the car asap.

[SR-71]

Originally Posted by petrolhead777

I am on the verge of finalising a 330i Msport which is 2 years old and in warranty, checked it out today it is very clean with ODO at 29K Kms.

I was quoted 41L inclusive of everything.

That's a pretty decent deal. The quote given to me for new 330i MSport in Bangalore post discount right now is is 64L while it retails at is 67L. So an used one with 29K on ODO if under excellent condition is a good buy at 41L. Actually it seems like a win-win, you get good price considering current market price and the seller is not loosing much in terms of depreciation!

[petrolhead777]

Originally Posted by SR-71

That's a pretty decent deal. The quote given to me for new 330i MSport in Bangalore post discount right now is is 64L while it retails at is 67L. So an used one with 29K on ODO if under excellent condition is a good buy at 41L. Actually it seems like a win-win, you get good price considering current market price and the seller is not loosing much in terms of depreciation!

Please let me know if there is anything specific I should look out for and I won't be extending BSI further as my running is low, so how much can I expect the annual service to cost me.

[SR-71]

Originally Posted by petrolhead777

Please let me know if there is anything specific I should look out for and I won't be extending BSI further as my running is low, so how much can I expect the annual service to cost me.

I don't own one yet, I am still undecided on the purchase. From what I have heard from the SA, one might incur 25-30K as service cost as long as there are no major part costs involved. For more detailed pricing you may want to ping current owners or go through the ownership threads. Fellow member @itwasntme has been quiet helpful in responses whenever I trouble him. He got the 330i sport last year.

[Peregrine]

My Black Sapphire 330i M Sport was delivered on April 9th . Loving every minute of being a BMW owner, and can't stop grinning ear to ear. This is a machine that absolutely puts a smile on your face very single time you get into the car. What an absolute beast to drive, and feels equally good from inside with interiors that are in line with what you expect at this price range. Still very early days, ,but took it on a longish drive to the newly opened JW Marriott near Nandi Hills Bangalore. I took a few pictures there and attaching it here. Will update with more driving impressions soon. Also, super glad that I went ahead with the black. This color just makes the 330i look phenomenal

[BeMyWings]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

My Black Sapphire 330i M Sport was delivered on April 9th .

Congratulations Peregrine, you've received a falcon to match your forum name!

Originally Posted by Peregrine

Also, super glad that I went ahead with the black. This color just makes the 330i look phenomenal

I'm curious to know your thoughts on if this color harder/costlier to maintain than the others?

Congratulations again! All the best.

[Peregrine]

Originally Posted by BeMyWings

Congratulations Peregrine, you've received a falcon to match your forum name!



I'm curious to know your thoughts on if this color harder/costlier to maintain than the others?

Congratulations again! All the best.

Thanks a lot. I am sure black is going to be harder to maintain as I can already see dust showing up much more easily on this one. I am getting PPF done on the car right now, and I hope that will help with maintaining the car better.

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

My Black Sapphire 330i M Sport was delivered on April 9th . Loving every minute of being a BMW owner, and can't stop grinning ear to ear. This is a machine that absolutely puts a smile on your face very single time you get into the car. What an absolute beast to drive, and feels equally good from inside with interiors that are in line with what you expect at this price range. Still very early days, ,but took it on a longish drive to the newly opened JW Marriott near Nandi Hills Bangalore. I took a few pictures there and attaching it here. Will update with more driving impressions soon. Also, super glad that I went ahead with the black. This color just makes the 330i look phenomenal

Congratulations and wishing you miles of joy! 330i seem to be the first choice to most in Bangalore when it comes entry level luxury sedan. The new C class will have to put lot of efforts to claw back.

[kch82]

Hello Everyone,

This is going to be a lengthy one, request you to bear with me.

After a patient wait of near 10 years, I am ready to buy my second ‘performance / luxury’ car. My first being the Cruze AT that served me well for near 10 years, however thanks to the diesel restrictions in Delhi it is time for her to go. My everyday workhorse is the Creta that has also clocked near 90k km, but I plan to keep it for another 2 years.

My budget to begin with was 50L on road, but cars sin that bracket did not tick mark my wish list. The nearest that came was perhaps he Mercedes A200, but I am not really a Mercedes fan and the back seat of the A200 was a bit disappointing.

My main requirements are - good snappy drive, aesthetics, front & rear seat comfort, powerful air conditioning and decent features including good audio. The expected running is approx. 15k per year and I hope to keep the car for 5 years - 7 years.

Then came my obvious choice - the BMWs. I started looking at the 320d Luxury edition, but the car seemed to vanilla for my liking. My heart was on the newer 320Ld (grand limousine) because of the much more comfortable rear seat, Harmon sound, bigger sunroof and a few newer features. But as with all good things in life this too comes with a significant price jump .

I spoke to a few dealerships and the common ‘advice’ that I received from the sales reps was that given my 15k annual run I should only go in for a Petrol variant. I also did a fairly detailed calculation keeping in mind the diesel vs petrol cost and the car price difference (including the presumed the lower maintenance of Petrol) and my conclusion is that at the end of 5 years the total cost between Diesel and Petrol should be near equal. Broadly speaking I will spend in total 1.5 L more on fuel in the next 5 years, in case of a Petrol but I save 3 lacs upfront on the petrol model.

During a visit to a showroom, I laid my eyes on a grey 330i M sport with a black grill. Stunning to say the least. The M kit really stood out. I also tried the 320Ld and 330Li and my observations on the positives (+) and negatives (-) are as follows:

330i M
+ M kit looks stunning specially the wheels
+ The plum upholstery looks nice too
+ The carbon fibre touch is indeed a nice touch
+ The grunt of a petrol beats the diesel any day.

- Misses the bigger sunroof, electronic boot, harmon speakers
- The rear seat was just about fine, but with 2 adults and a child it may be a
tight fit.
- The mileage as I have been given to understand in traffic will definitely be a
10 km/l
- The low profile 18 inch have the reputation of being notorious, but I am no
regular speed demon. I mostly drive cautiously but I am aware the Indian
roads are uncertain and full of surprises.


320Ld / 330 Li / 330 Li M

+ Newer model and more future proof
+ Much better rear seat comfort
+ More features including bigger sunroof, electronic boot, Harmon Kardon
music system and one or two more things.
+ The M kit on the Li

- Those stock wheels look a bit odd and plain on a longer car and just kill the
buzz.
- Whether the price difference justifies the positives?


For some reason I seems to be fixated on the M sport add on. To the extent that even if I buy the 320Li I may consider the M sport variant on that too. Of course it will all depend upon on the final deal and financing option that is offered to me.

To help me clear my mind, I have put together a few questions where I request your expertise and experience:

1. Does the 15k annual range justify a petrol engine?
2. Is the mileage of the Ms - 330i / 320Li actually 10 km/ltr?
3. Is the apples to apples service and maintenance of the petrol significantly
cheaper than the diesel?
4. Are the low profile 18” on the M sports are damage prone ? Basis my
research on other threads here I read that users have changed as many
as 5 tyres in 3 years. That if it ever were to happen to me.
Again I am fairly easy rider and do mind the potholes and bumps… but
one can never be sure here. Also my highways rides will not be more than
2-3 times in a year of a 1000 km each.
5. On the price break up I saw a near 95k as “Service Charge”. This is not
the AMC or any service package but seems to be an additional cost that
the dealers are charging. Is this Service Charge a standard feature with
all dealers?
6. Does it make sense to buy the AMC package? As I understand there is
the standard AMC service package for 80k km for approx. 1.4 Lacs and
another AM service + consumables package for 80k for approx. 2.5 Lacs.
As per the sales representative in services + consumables package
everything is covered including brake pads, discs etc. Of course I need to
deep dive more into what is “not covered”, but until then I will appreciate
your reviews on the AMC packages. I believe that for a routine service
other than the oils and filters
everything else is a money making gimmick by the service station and the
service in charge can be instructed upfront to removes these over and
above items from the job sheet. That’s how I did it for my Cruze atleast.
7. Overall thoughts on the price differences and it’s value ? Broadly speaking
post the discounts, the on road prices and without AMC are as follows:
- 330i M 58L
- 320 Ld 63 lacs
- 330 Li M 61.50 lacs
- 330 Li 60 lacs

8. What is a good range of cash discount currently ? Considering all the
talks of short supply and high demand.

9. I have also been advised to wait for the new Mercedes C class as it
promises to blow the competition away, but I doubt the drive will excite
me and there will hardly be any discounts given the new model etc. I will
prefer a car that is better to drive and has all the basic and a little above
bells and whistles that are an everyday use. I cannot compromise this for
a 'smart phone' car. Your thoughts on the new C?


Again, apologies for the long post and several questions. I will request your view to enable me to make the right choice.

Thanks a lot.

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[gupta_v_kr]

Being a recent owner of a 330Li luxury Line, i would definitely advise you to upgrade to the 330Li if back seat comfort is your criteria. Answering some of your queries hereunder:-

The real world mileage that i get with a mix of city and highway drive is around 10km/litre.

I did not wish to pay extra for the Msport trim just because of the Msport kit. Horror stories of the low profile tyres also influenced my decision to avoid this trim.

Given my experience, discounts are likely to be in the range of 2-4 lakhs.

I was fascinated by the new C too but test drove the current generation C and the C just cant hold against the 330i or 330Li in terms of fun to drive criteria.

Overall, 330i will have better driving dynamics but the back seat comfort is far better in the 330Li. If you wish to drive with your family around then should definitely look at the 330Li than the 330i.

[kch82]

Originally Posted by gupta_v_kr

Being a recent owner of a 330Li luxury Line, i would definitely advise you to upgrade to the 330Li if back seat comfort is your criteria. Answering some of your queries hereunder:-

Thanks a lot for the valuable inputs.

Apologies for my last post. My inline response to the reply of Gupta Vk did not get posted the way I intended. Guess I still need to figure out how to to use the Quote feature while replying via mobile

My thoughts to Mr. Gupta’s reply are:

- I am also for getting more inclined to the Li solely for the back seat comfort. Being a family of 4 with 2 growing kids - the Li seems to be a more ‘family and practical’ choice without really compromising on the ride quality.

- 10 km/litre seems acceptable, but 98% of my drive will be in city traffic. I hope I do not get stuck with a 7 km/litre number.

- Thanks for your take the M sport kit. Though I love the M kit on the 330i but somehow it does not come out the same on the 330Li. Infact today my dealer send me the 330Li for TD and for some reason I missed spotting the wheels while getting in the car. Half way in the TD I noticed the M badge on the steering and that when I realised that I was driving the 330Li M. The reason for the miss was that the carbon touch interiors are missing in the Li and have been replaced for a wooden touch kit that juts does not give the sports look. Also the upholstery in the Li M is the standard Tan and not the coffee color that comes on the 330i M. The only item that still draws me towards the M kit on the Li are those gorgeous sleek tyres. God I so dislike the stock wheels on the Li. But then again the split experience on the low profile tyres is making me nervous. I think I may end up with the Luxury line only on the Li.

- Currently the discount seems to be only touching as far as 3L and I doubt whether I will be able to squeeze in more than a couple of thousands. Unless I buy the car from my hometown where it can be closer to 4L.

- Agreed, I doubt there will be much difference in the drive of the current C vs the 10 May launch. And no matter how many bells and whistles they add to the C, I doubt it will inspire the driver in me.

- If I were to broadly ask that if the 330iM is approx 6 Lacs cheaper than the 330Li, is the 6 Lacs saving worth the ‘compromise’ ?

- Also on the extended warranty and the service packs, a trusted friend and a BMW user of all models from 3 - X5 has recommended that given my limited 15k per year use, the extended warranty and services packs may not well be worth the spend. Any more thoughts and user experience on this part will be much appreciated.

- Also any experience on the buy value play in the BMW 360 plan. At the end of 5th year, either I will cough out the last big EMI of 20L or sell the car to the company at the committed buy back price. Hope BMW plays fair on the buy back aspect.


Thanks a lot.

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[rag_nfs]

Originally Posted by kch82

- Currently the discount seems to be only touching as far as 3L and I doubt whether I will be able to squeeze in more than a couple of thousands. Unless I buy the car from my hometown where it can be closer to 4L.

- Agreed, I doubt there will be much difference in the drive of the current C vs the 10 May launch. And no matter how many bells and whistles they add to the C, I doubt it will inspire the driver in me.

- If I were to broadly ask that if the 330iM is approx 6 Lacs cheaper than the 330Li, is the 6 Lacs saving worth the ‘compromise’ ?

![/b]

Going through the same decision making process as you right now. A few of my thoughts
- looking at the price difference between the 330 variants it doesn't make sense to buy anything except the 3GL M sport
- The new C class has better driving dynamics than the previous ones, they have supposedly reduced the gap with BMW, though I doubt in the real world one can feel the difference especially while driving in Gurgaon, Delhi
- The discounts on 3 series are around 3 L
- The C class will be a tad expensive and will come with no discounts, launch is 7 days away so I'm planning to wait for that.

Thanks

[iliketurtles]

Here are my thoughts in brief for your dilemma.

Originally Posted by kch82

I am also for getting more inclined to the Li solely for the back seat comfort. Being a family of 4 with 2 growing kids - the Li seems to be a more ‘family and practical’ choice without really compromising on the ride quality.

Do you need the extra space for the kids and family? In that case, the 3xxLi makes a lot more sense for your needs. Only you can say how much it matters.

Originally Posted by kch82

10 km/litre seems acceptable, but 98% of my drive will be in city traffic. I hope I do not get stuck with a 7 km/litre number.

The 330i will give you about 7 kmpl or so in traffic. No two ways about that. The post above yours talked of 10 kmpl is a mix of highway +city. That sounds about right. The diesel is far more fuel efficient that way.

I definitely feel that 15k kms a year is approaching the territory where a diesel starts to make sense. But, the 330i is the far better engine w.r.t. fun and the luxury quotient, so would recommend it over diesel IF you don't mind its inefficiency versus the diesel.

Originally Posted by kch82

Thanks for your take the M sport kit.

I would definitely pick the M-sport trim if I were you, it just makes it look that much nicer, and will make the car "feel" nicer and fresher for a longer time. That said, if you don't like it on the Li, go for the "Normal" trim.

Originally Posted by kch82

If I were to broadly ask that if the 330iM is approx 6 Lacs cheaper than the 330Li, is the 6 Lacs saving worth the ‘compromise’ ?

If I were you, I'd go for the 330i M Sport. Besides the money saved up front, it'll be slightly more fun to drive and the dimensions look nicer. Does the extra toys + space on the Li warrant it for you? Again, that is a deeply personal question, and one only you can answer. Drive both back to back, and see how you feel. That will answer your question.

Originally Posted by kch82

A trusted friend has recommended that the extended warranty and services packs may not well be worth the spend.

You can definitely skip the service pack and go a la carte (it won't be a big difference for your use case), but definitely get the maximum extended warranty, especially if you plan to keep this for a longer time. Think of it as an extra insurance policy against parts failing (and they will, small and hopefully not big).

[jaskiratarora15]

When I was talking to a dealer, they were able to bring down the Li Luxury Line price lower than 330i M Sport. This was made possible because of financing schemes, corporate discount, more cash discount etc. And this was in March itself, I’m not so sure of what the discounts are right now.
330i M Sport was ultimately around 60k more expensive than 330Li Luxury Line.

[petrolhead777]

I am very happy to join the BMW club today, brought home a pre worshipped 330i M sport(G20) in alpine white.
Will update my experience after driving for a few weeks.

Many thanks to @itwasntme and @turbanator for their expert opinions which nudged me to take the plunge and also inspired by @gto whose 530d m sport thread helped me in going the pre worshipped route.