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Old 16th December 2009, 22:17   #706
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We would prefer a Fiat engine instead and a neat Fiat body.

A Fiat with a Contessa engine He could have bought a Contessa itself.

Altering the body of a Fiat just for the sake of looks is a sick thing to do.

I feel a Fiat 1100 with some other engine and body altered, cannot be called as a Fiat!!
Period.
I absolutely agree on this! A fiat shell with some other engine doesnt make sense at all. When a Fiat 1100 is capable to perform so beautifully, why change the engine? Instead tweak/modify the 1100 to get more juice and should be race ready.

I am sure most would agree on this
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Dear BD,

May be you are the right person who can answer this.

I remember that in 1988 - Premier Padminis (in stock ex showroom) there was a difference in the Carburettor set up between Padmini Deluxe BE and Deluxe (Floor shift & Bucket Seat models). If I recall correctly the venturi size was larger for the Deluxe along with 110 Main jet.

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Dear BD,

May be you are the right person who can answer this.

I remember that in 1988 - Premier Padminis (in stock ex showroom) there was a difference in the Carburettor set up between Padmini Deluxe BE and Deluxe (Floor shift & Bucket Seat models). If I recall correctly the venturi size was larger for the Deluxe along with 110 Main jet.

Thanks and Best Regards

Ram
I believe floor shift (With 118 NE gearbox) was available only towards the end of Premier's production. 95 or 96 onwards. 110 main jet was used on Deluxe models and produced more bhp (I guess 3 more).

To All: Correct me if I am wrong.
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I believe floor shift (With 118 NE gearbox) was available only towards the end of Premier's production. 95 or 96 onwards. 110 main jet was used on Deluxe models and produced more bhp (I guess 3 more).

To All: Correct me if I am wrong.
Padmini Deluxe with Floor Shift (4 f + 1 r gears) was always available (I had a new one in 1988). The 118 NE came latter probably from 95 or from S1 era?

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Today Karthik Makam and me had a chat with Mr. Ron from US of A. He is a ardent Fiat lover. He owns 1100D, an 1100TV Transformabile, a 1200TV Transformabile, and several 1200 and 1500 cabriolets.
Wow that's great news. A movement that's turning heads and creating waves. All from the dedicated eforts of the founder members.

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Dear all - this is really WOW! Now you know what our 1100 cc engine can do. If I am not mistaken, these are twin choke Weber DCOEs. The last picture is most interesting. You can see the camshaft sensor on the timing cover and an electronic ignition module in place of the distributor. It has two single choke webers. You can also see the same suspension arms that we use. The stub axles are obviously fabricated units.

This reminds me of MRF4705, in which we had installed 4 Solex carburettors for the track race. MRF4705 was a 1970 model fiat 1100D which was the first prize in the WIAA national rally which started from Mumbai, Kolkata, Delhi and Chennai and ended in Nagpur. It belonged to Mr.Darayus Bhathena, a very senior rallyist and our Guru. I vaguely remember myself as a 13 year old kid standing in the Matunga Gymkhana grounds in Mumbai in 1970, watching the flag off. Wish I had photographs.

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I had this PDF downloaded from the web, talks of a sports car with Fiat 1100 mechanicals and fiber glass body. It may be worth reading. The car sports two SU Carburetors.

http://www.buchananmotorcompany.com/...ure%20Fiat.pdf
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Dear BD,

May be you are the right person who can answer this.

I remember that in 1988 - Premier Padminis (in stock ex showroom) there was a difference in the Carburettor set up between Padmini Deluxe BE and Deluxe (Floor shift & Bucket Seat models). If I recall correctly the venturi size was larger for the Deluxe along with 110 Main jet.

Thanks and Best Regards

Ram
Premier Padmini Standard engines had 7.8 compression ratio engine. Economy carburetors came with 22mm venturi, 102 size main jet, 180 size correction jet and 40 size idle jet while standard carburetors came with 20.5mm venturi with 220 size air correction jet while the main jet remained 102 sized.
Premier Padmini Deluxe engines had 8.1 compression ratio with 24mm venturi, 110 size main jet & 150 size air correction jet with 45 size idle jet.

However there was no documented difference between the carburetors of BU & BE cars.

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Padmini Deluxewith Floor Shift (4 f + 1 r gears) was always available (I had a new one in 1988). The 118 NE came latter probably from 95 or from S1 era?

Best Regards & Drive/Ride Safe

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as far as my info goes, in the 80'sthe floor shift Bucket seat +seat belts models were called DELUX and the other one DeluxeBE(BE= Bench) with column shift and no seat belts.in 1994 came the DELUXE BU in S1 models with Bucket seats NEgear box,a/c etc.
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as far as my info goes, in the 80'sthe floor shift Bucket seat +seat belts models were called DELUX and the other one DeluxeBE(BE= Bench) with column shift and no seat belts.in 1994 came the DELUXE BU in S1 models with Bucket seats NEgear box,a/c etc.
Thanks! This is something I did not know. Appreciate the information posted
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as far as my info goes, in the 80'sthe floor shift Bucket seat +seat belts models were called DELUX
Was it DELUX or DELUXE?

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in 1994 came the DELUXE BU in S1 models with Bucket seats NEgear box,a/c etc.
I think in S1, the top end model was called just DELUXE.
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Some pictures of PP Deluxe from the Manual.
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Old 18th December 2009, 00:03   #716
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Our friend Mehul1100, found this Fiat 1100 D LHD Station Wagon in his town.

Fiat Gurus, whats your take on this? Original car?

Fiat 1100 Club - Bangalore [FCB]-fiat1100_d_station_wagon_1962_1280x960_wallpaper_01.jpg

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Whatta find ! Original, and LHD at that ! Where is this ?
Appears to be in the good hands of an enthusiast / collector - there's another Fiat in the background, and a Morris Minor behind.
Some more, still photos if possible please.
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I think this car is somewhere near Coimbatore.

I will ask Mehul for some more pics.
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Old 18th December 2009, 09:40   #719
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What a find Mehul! The car looks in mint condition. We already saw 2 LHD Fiats in the last few weeks. One is what Mehul posted and one at Kannan's garage. This tells me that there may be many more LHD Fiats around and we just have not spotted them.

I am sure Arun with his knack of finding nice fiats will find some more in Bangalore. We count on you Arun
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I think this car is somewhere near Coimbatore.

I will ask Mehul for some more pics.
Yeah this car is halted for nearly five years and the owner has one fiat elegant, morries minor and many old collection, his problem is that with a such big collection he is not able not maintain even one car in a perfect way.

So all the cars with him are not in runing condition. Neither he willing to sell off then either. He loves is collection, but after hin these beauties march towards junk yard only.
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