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Old 13th January 2019, 19:01   #11476
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It looks harsh and stupid to ban a couple of players for an incident that happened outside the cricket field.
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Looks like moral policing has gone beyond a point.
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And there is no cricketing (or even in general) individual/team/unit that is offended or was impacted; for the decision to be taken.

They were immature and stupid. And the funny thing is this ban is not going to change their attitude; they'll just learn to keep their mouths shut and continue do what they were doing.
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It looks harsh and stupid to ban a couple of players for an incident that happened outside the cricket field.

Pandya brings a balance to the team that no other player brings. Heck, whatever that was said is not even a criminal offence to begin with considering it was a generalized statement.

Looks like moral policing has gone beyond a point.
Supposingly, If you are a vital employee of a big organization and your actions even outside the workplace brings embarrassment to the organization, there will be reprimand in some form. Also, you are forgetting Pandya was not just sexist, a jerk, proclaimed womenizer, but he implied his teammates are a part of it too..

Yes, Rahul didn't say much but he acknowledged Pandya and didn't made any efforts to stop him anytime. Pandya even mentioned how he partied all night before matches when it's widely known players are strictly prohibited by bcci to get out of their team hotel before match days. Clearly shows his disregard for team rules. Obviously bcci or CoA will do something about it. IMO a 3 match ban was sufficient but more than that is an overkill.
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Supposingly, If you are a vital employee of a big organization and your actions even outside the workplace brings embarrassment to the organization, there will be reprimand in some form. Also, you are forgetting Pandya was not just sexist, a jerk, proclaimed womenizer, but he implied his teammates are a part of it too..
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Pandya even mentioned how he partied all night before matches when it's widely known players are strictly prohibited by bcci to get out of their team hotel before match days.
Being a womanizer is not a crime. Partying hard and being uneducated isn't either. They could be deemed vices, but not a crime.

Yes, the fact that he partied hard before the match day was wrong, but you don't get bans because of that (cricket or the real world). Clearly we all know that wasn't the reason he got the ban.

Plus it doesn't hold legal forte, he "spoke" about it on a masala show, he wasn't caught doing it. There weren't photos or leaks in the world to hide from. There weren't tales or accusations from others that had to be dealt with. As for the real world example, the max one will get is a session with the HR and the manager(s). Try suspending an employee for drinking too much or talking shit outside working hours without any concrete proof, and you'd have a good legal (and HR) case on your hands.

This is a case of pure social justice being meted out. If that wasn't the case, we'd just laughed about it as boys being boys and long forgotten about it; similar to the case a few years back where it was made public that (prior to his coaching days) Ravi Shastri was always seen in the commentary box with a drink in his hand; and many more such cases. I don't say that's the right approach, but this isn't either.

This article talks about better ways to deal with this problem. Not a ban. That's just BCCI washing its hands of the issue and saying "see we did our job, now stop looking at us" while the actual issue hasn't been handled at all.

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This whole thing new has got nothing to do with what was said by whom on what show. It's purely a political battle between Edulji and Vinod Rai. The players and the team are suffering, but nobody really cares!
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Batsman gets Out on the 7th Ball of Over!

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Old 14th January 2019, 14:02   #11481
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^^ I was watching this live on TV yesterday. The commentators had called this anamoly out immediately. The decision was not overturned because it was deemed to be an "umpire's error".

PS: Do try and catch up with BBL for it's excellent commentary.
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Old 14th January 2019, 20:05   #11482
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Some more mess in Indian cricket: Harmanpreet Kaur (the women's T20 team captain) apparently lost her job with Punjab Police recently because her graduation degree was found fake.

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Senior officials in the administration, who spoke with TOI but do not want to be named given the number of slip-ups that have occurred in the administrative processes, say: "If Pandya and Rahul have to serve a suspension pending inquiry, then what about Harmanpreet Kaur? She's the captain of the Indian team at a time when she's busy being investigated for possessing a fake graduation degree. Someone wants to conveniently protect her but ban these two cricketers for a year for what? For posterity?"
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/67520372.cms
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Old 14th January 2019, 21:00   #11483
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It quite clearly looks like we have people who feel they know cricket better than most greats or ex-cricketers or even people who have been commenting on the game for ages.
These are usually the same people who 'hear' and 'feel' about in TOI reporting ; channels like Aaj Tak and shows like 'Match Ke Mujrim' I don't want to say anything more!
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On Rahul & Pandya, Mumbai police have this tip,


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Below is where the problem lies! Infighting within the COA + delay in setting up committee/ombudsman,etc will ensure our media makes it an even bigger circus than the ball-tampering saga.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...n-diana-edulji
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Second ODI - Just when it looked like Australia will go past 300, maybe even get 320, some good bowling in the death overs by Bhuvaneshwar brought the score down to 300.
It's still not going to be an easy chase and will require India to beat a record - highest score by India on this ground is 270 and now they need to beat that to get 299 for a win.
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Classic Dhoni resurfaced today; just when required. Karthik's supporting innings needs to be applauded too. Two keepers keeping the team's hope for a series win alive.

That six over the penultimate ball of the match was a gem: it sealed Australia's fate. Dhoni actually forgot to celebrate his fifty.

A excellent entertainer of a game.

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Kohli - No one knows what goes on in Dhoni's mind. He has his own calculations.

Manjrekar - We have seen Dhoni's prime. Its unlikely that we will see it again. But he is still a force to reckon with.

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What a complete change of fortune wrt the previous match - including the key man in question - Dhoni. A similar score in the previous match has been unanimously been considered as one of the possible factor for the shortfall in reaching the target, and today his innings (among others) has been key to reach the target.

The commentators made two interesting points

- Both matches he's kept wickets for 50 overs and then batted for ~15 overs in hot conditions, so clearly that's a reason (in addition to lack of practice) for his slow batting.
- Considering the choice we have for wicketkeeper, he could stay in the WC team as a batsman, and not the keeper

Good win! It's a pity we didn't hit another six to finish it; this match would have been the highest score in the second innings at this venue (current record is 303)
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A good team performance by India. Bhuvi pulled back the total considerably in the end. Fielding was top class-Jadeja running out Khawaja was Amazing. Clinical batting performance - almost all partnerships were 50+ runs (only the first one was 47). Dhoni came good in the end, Kohli was consistent as ever. This is Kohli's 24th century in a chase and India have won 21 of those matches. Rohit, Dhawan, Rayudu and DK chipped in too. The series is set up nicely now.


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Good win! It's a pity we didn't hit another six to finish it; this match would have been the highest score in the second innings at this venue (current record is 303)
incorrect, If the last ball was hit for a six, it would've been the highest successful chase only and not the highest second innings total. The highest second innings total in Adelaide oval is 316 by Pakistan in a losing cause. 303 is the highest successful chase by SL.
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highest score by India on this ground is 270 and now they need to beat that to get 299 for a win.
Correction...actually, India's highest successful chase at Adelaide was 270 which was beaten today with the score of 299.

India's highest score at Adelaide is 300 against Pakistan.
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