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Old 24th November 2023, 16:50   #16906
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Re: The Cricket Thread

As of now, I think our 5-6-7 are also kinda, sorta confirmed for the T20 team with:

Tentative team:
1. Gill
2.
3.
4.
5. Pandya
6. SKY
7. Rinku
8.
9.
10. Bhumrah
11. Siraj/ Shami

Others:
Top order: Jaiswal, Tilak, Kohli, Gaikwad
Wicket Keepers: KL, Ishan Kishan, Pant (if fit)
Spinners: Kuldeep, Axar, Jadeja, Washington, Dube
Seamers: Avesh, Prasidh, Arshdeep/ Mukesh

Of course, a LOT will depend on IPL.
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Old 24th November 2023, 20:29   #16907
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Smith had a lackluster ODI WC. His place in the team for ODIs or T20 WC is not sure either. He is trying to present his case for the Aus T20 WC team.
That's correct. His game isn't suited for white ball cricket, especially T20. With Travis head back, there is no way Smith can be an opener.

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Shami wasn't an automatic selection in the last WT20 WC, he only came in once Bumrah was injured. He's definitely improved in T20 format but I'm not too sure about him, it would depend on his IPL performance also. Ideally nos.7-8-9 in the T20 setup should be Axar, Sundar, Shardul/Deepak Chahar. 10 & 11 can be Bumrah & Shami/Siraj/Arshdeep. Kuldeep can be kept in the squad but some sacrifices will have to made in the spin bowling department inspite of the slow pitches in WI.
What other options do we have? Siraj gives runs like anything. Except for Bumrah, there is not a single Pacer who is dependable. Shami is the only one who comes close. Hardik can be the all rounder. Axar and someone else as the spinner. Problem with Kuldeep is that he is not a hitter with the bat. In T20, we need everybody to contribute with the bat. Maybe one last hurrah for Ashwin. WI pitches will suits his style of bowling.

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T20WC is just 6 months away and India only plays around 10 International T20I before the WC, Australia I think is playing even lesser.

We though should get some practice in IPL.

Though yes timing is absurd with WC getting over just 3 days back.
Right.
There aren't many games left and they need to make a good combination soon.

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As of now, I think our 5-6-7 are also kinda, sorta confirmed for the T20 team with:

Tentative team:
1. Gill
2.
3.
4.
5. Pandya
6. SKY
7. Rinku
8.
9.
10. Bhumrah
11. Siraj/ Shami

Others:
Top order: Jaiswal, Tilak, Kohli, Gaikwad
Wicket Keepers: KL, Ishan Kishan, Pant (if fit)
Spinners: Kuldeep, Axar, Jadeja, Washington, Dube
Seamers: Avesh, Prasidh, Arshdeep/ Mukesh

Of course, a LOT will depend on IPL.
Gill shouldn't be an opener in T20. He doesn't have the game to start hitting from ball one. His play style is best for ODI and tests. The top 3 needs to be players who can fully utilize Powerplay otherwise it creates too much pressure on others.

Why will SKY bat at 6? He is a no.3 or 4 player at the most. In fact he can even play as an opener in t20. He isn't a finisher. Play him at 3 so he can use the hard new ball for his back of the wicket shots. Hardik at 5 is fine and Rinku should be at 6 with Axar at 7 followed by 4 bowlers whoever it be.

It's too early for a combination. Let's see how these guys do this series. Iyer is coming back in 4th and 5th match so he is a contender too for middle order. With Kohli and other seniors also we don't what's cooking regarding T20. Lot depends on IPL form as our selectors have a tendency to follow it for all formats forgetting what player has done whole year.
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Looking at SKY perform in T20s memes have flooded the internet.
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Old 26th November 2023, 11:05   #16909
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For T20 WC, the team needs complete overhaul. Let’s see if BCCI/Selectors have enough courage to select a young team! If India don’t make to Knock-outs, then Selectors may face criticism for backing up a young team, hence, it’s a tricky call.
I think atleast one between Kohli and Rohit should be there just to mentor and soak pressure of the high stake WC games.

In this ODI WC , I felt India missed a trick by not testing the lower order in the last two league matches. SKY didn’t get any proper chance to bat after the England game in Lucknow where he batted brilliantly to be fair, similar for Jadeja.
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Looking at SKY perform in T20s memes have flooded the internet.
It's a bit ridiculous, these type of comments from ex cricketers.
At top level, every game, even a friendly, is important and should be taken seriously. If you do well it has to be appreciated. More often than not you will not do well, esp in team sports. Tendulkar didn't score a century in every game or Warne didn't pick a 5'er in every'one. They all have had bad games and bad series/bad seasons. At least ex cricketers should keep some perspective (or at least add a rejoinder that it's all just banter, as I am sure that's all what it is) let trolling be left be lesser mortals.
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Jaiswal has to be the first name in the list of batters for 2024 WC. Everyone else can follow.
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Rinku has to be the second one
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17 crore viewers on Jio cinema for a second string team, while world cup final I think maxed out at 5.5 crore. Fact aside that jio cinema is free, this just proves how dead ODI as a format is.

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17 crore viewers on Jio cinema for a second string team, while world cup final I think maxed out at 5.5 crore. Fact aside that jio cinema is free, this just proves how dead ODI as a format is.
Jio is showing total views, while star sports displayed concurrent viewers. So no comparison.
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Jio is showing total views, while star sports displayed concurrent viewers. So no comparison.
Oh OK, did not know that, that said still extremely impressive numbers, with the so called superstars not playing.
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17 crore viewers on Jio cinema for a second string team, while world cup final I think maxed out at 5.5 crore. Fact aside that jio cinema is free, this just proves how dead ODI as a format is.
I don’t know how much we can trust this number, 17cr means around 13% of our population.
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I’m as devastated as anyone by the WC loss but man this guy Rinku, absolutely gives Dhoni of the yore vibes. Cool calm customer. Hope he continues this form & makes it to the final 11 of WC T20 2024

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17 crore viewers on Jio cinema for a second string team, while world cup final I think maxed out at 5.5 crore. Fact aside that jio cinema is free, this just proves how dead ODI as a format is.
I think another factor is that world cup was available on star sports as well which I think still pulls majority of viewership compared to hotstar. The current series is also available on tv channel but can't remember the name, it is something under jio umbrella but not so popular one. But I personally do find it hard to believe that more people turned into watch this series than final.
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I really hope India crushes the Aussies in this bilateral. That should show the world that the WC final was just a bad day at the office.

But then we have to also reduce the weight of expectations on the team when it comes to ICC events somehow.

And just there I realize that I am being a hypocrite. But the thing is, I support them no matter what. I was sad on last Sunday (and so was everyone else), but I support them and want them to get better no matter the result. If in the process of getting better we lose a few games, so be it.

The only weakness they showed maybe was buckling under pressure in the big game leading to fielding lapses (coupled with the slow pitch leading to what happened during the Indian innings). I hope they know how both of those can be worked upon.
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6. SKY
Why should the Country's best & World's no.1 ranked T20 batsman bat at no.6 ?!

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Maybe one last hurrah for Ashwin. WI pitches will suits his style of bowling.
Even if Ashwin has a great IPL, he should not be picked for WT20! Same mistake was made in that WT20 in UAE. WI pitches will also suit Axar & Washington Sundar.

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Gill shouldn't be an opener in T20. He doesn't have the game to start hitting from ball one. His play style is best for ODI and tests.
+100
But I'm sure the Selectors will pick him as they're experts in mixing formats.

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Iyer is coming back in 4th and 5th match so he is a contender too for middle order.
Iyer only be effective at no.3 or at no.4 I feel. But those positions are taken up by SKY & Tilak Verma. He seems to have worked on his intent & sometimes shows some urgency. I personally wouldn't select him in the XI.

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I think atleast one between Kohli and Rohit should be there just to mentor and soak pressure of the high stake WC games.
We had Dhoni as a Mentor in that UAE WT20, but what happened? We should let go off Senior Players. They've enough scars from losing in knockout matches in the past decade. Its not that pitches in WI are very alien that younger players will struggle to adapt.

My Ideal top 6 would be:
1. Jaiswal
2. Ishan Kishan (depending on his form)
3. SKY
4. Tikal Verma
5. Hardik (if fit enough to bowl)
6. Rinku Singh
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