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| ![]() A practical long-term solution for the ORR would have been a two-tiered elevated section between Jayadeva Hospital and KR Puram railway station junctions, instead of the current utterly useless flyovers. Could've used G+1 level for road-traffic with appropriately placed entry/exit points for all major stops along the way (make it tolled like the BETL), and G+2 for Metro with elevated stations occupying minimal real estate. G-level would serve as public road, BMTC routes and parking/routing/lay-by space for entry/exit and Metro. But then, who the heck thinks ahead when there's money to be made here & now? ![]() The current plan will just make things worse at the end-points. Fast-moving sections aren't necessarily a good thing, esp. if the end-points are potential bottlenecks. If they plan on reducing travel time on that stretch to 1/3rd it takes today, are the end-points capable of handling a 3X throughput of traffic? Imagine the chaos at KR Puram Stn. junction if this plan actually sees the light of day. The jam will probably stretch back to Bellandur all by itself, no intermediate signals/bottlenecks required. ![]() Last edited by Chetan_Rao : 23rd June 2016 at 18:26. |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Quote: Can some explain? I thought we have a road between KR Puram & Silk Board which is called the Outer Ring Road, which is dotted by the tech companies. Is this a reprint of the 15 year old news or they are planning another magic route from KR Puram to Silk Board via all the tech parks, but avoiding the current Ring Road? Going underground? Virtual? My bet would be virtual: There'd be funding and a virtual highway would be built. During the planning stage, some stray crows, devoid of their landing patch, would perch atop those Crystas & Fortuners. 121Cr would get around 370 Fortuners: 224 MLAs, 112 Chamchas and approx 10% for contingencies due to irregular crow behaviours. You know what gets my goat! The absolute genius that plans these roads. A 6 lane ORR converges into something less than 4 lanes at Silk Board.D'oh. I think we can avoid talking about KR Puram. Another genius is the Hebbal Flyover. But then again, we can keep counting till the cows come home and it will not end. Until and unless we get rid of these bottle necks, the traffic flow in this city is not going to improve. With one of the highest density of engineers/sq km, some of the boffins in the city planning are either too dense or too bored to bother. **RANT ends. | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hope at least my children get to use this flyover! http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...er-begins.html Bangalore Development Authority (BDA) will construct a uni-directional underpass for traffic from Tumakuru Road going towards KR Puram. BDA will dismantle the existing loop of the Hebbal flyover to KR Puram side and will connect this traffic to the loop connecting Tumakuru Road to the city and will construct a three-lane flyover parallel to Hebbal flyover from Nagawara side towards Esteem Mall. The total project cost is Rs 87 crore. BDA engineers said traffic flow from the airport to the city will not be affected; traffic below the flyover will be diverted. Officials said no roads will be closed and work will go on in phases. But traffic movement will slow down because no pre-cast technology will be used. Last edited by itwasntme : 23rd June 2016 at 21:35. Reason: Typo |
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| ![]() I generally do not walk around much in the city. I travel either in my car, or in a friend's car or a cab (Might sound snobbish, but I am not). This might be the case with many people. Going anywhere walking is restricted to the shop nearby, or from car parking to some shop and not more than that. But today I did quite some walking in Koramangala which made me realise what a horror it is to walk in this city. It must be so difficult for people who walk a lot each and every day. There are several reasons for this 1) Non-existent footpaths 2) 2-wheelers riding on the footpath (hate this so much!!!) 3) Private construction material lying on the footpath 4) Footpath being used as a parking lot 5) Footpath being used by chat vendors, coconut water sellers etc. 6) Large trees on the footpath!!! 7) Owners of roadside houses park their cars on the footpath in front of their gate rather than inside the gate. A pedestrian needs to frequently get off the footpath onto the road clinging on to dear life and ensure that he/she is not mowed down by a speeding vehicle. In most cases, the encroachments are so many that it makes sense to walk on the road directly. This is so ingrained in the mentality of our public that even if a large footpath is available they walk on the road. Walking also made me realise how difficult it is to cross a road. Sitting in a car it is easy to say that why people don't go the intersections to cross and just dart across the road. Crossing at intersections isn't any easier. People just run across the road as they see it as a rare opportunity to get to the other side. While we talk about big stuff like GDP growth, FDI and all that we seem to be missing grassroot level things that will make India really a developed country. Instead of talking about steel flyover and what not, how wonderful it would be if the discussion would centre around making Bangalore roads pedestrian friendly. btw, a typical impatient Bangalore 2-wheeler rider gave me a gift in the form of a large scratch on right side of my car. This too at a signal that was RED. Obviously escaped after that Last edited by rohanak1 : 23rd June 2016 at 22:31. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Quote: From what I could make out: 1. The new unidirectional underpass from left to right (bottom white arrow) will funnel traffic from Tumkur to Manyata. What about the reverse traffic? I assume they will continue to stay at ground level. 2. The red shading (current right turn from Hebbal to Manyata) will be dismantled. Vehicles wishing to turn right will go down to Tumkur Road on the left and then get channelled into the new underpass 3. Manyata to Esteem Mall traffic will get a new 3 lane flyover to directly deposit them somewhere beyond the Esteem Mall pedestrian crossing towards the airport I really really hope they pull it off! | |
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| ![]() The 'tender sure' project has righted many of the wrongs and has given the city 'wide' pedestrian walkways - but unfortunately has met with criticism from vested interests. Everything is a fight in Bengaluru these days. BDA and BBMP are just relics and need to be reinvented for the city to live again. This is purely my personal opinion. But then I cant think of a Indian city which is pro-pedestrian these days - even from my extensive journeys can't recall one. |
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| ![]() Tin factory just realized its got a tough one to compete with. The new kid on the block who has been crying out loud since last 18 months that he is the mightier than the legacy called Tin Factory. Welcome "THE HEBBAL FLYOVER" - Supposedly the most complex design with multiple loops then (as per sources that I often come across) and today it is the first bottleneck for city bound passengers from Airport Side. Before I sound partial, it equally affects Airport Bound traffic also despite of an extra lane added an year before ![]() The secret is simple - Toothpaste Tube. Multiple lanes converging exactly at the start of the flyover and fighting for survival. The result is nothing but time consumption - Anything from 20-30 minutes for 2 kms all through the day after 9am to 9pm barring lunch time!! I see a sea of vehicles from the Airport side converging at this place to enter the city on daily basis. The other major reason for this Jam is also the Bus Stop soon after descending the Hebbal flyover towards the City. So if you thought you have won the war after entering the flyover, hold on to your horses for you still need to clear the bottleneck at the end of the flyover. Here's the video from yesterday which will remain same for each day except that he timestamp will have another date ![]() Last edited by paragsachania : 24th June 2016 at 08:15. |
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| ![]() Saw a twitter from MLA saying land owners have given up their land for a underpass near kundalahalli junction. Why are these idiots hell bent on building underpass when they can see the impact they are having on traffic during rain ? Isn't there anyone sane in these organizations ? |
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Its just the fancy names that make them do all this - flyover, underpass, skywalk etc. We must also have a more complex sounding term for plain roads, say middle-pass, or straight-over or 180-degree gradient etc. Maybe then the officials might begin tarring, repairing and widening regular roads instead of building flooded underpasses and jam-resulting flyovers at every signal possible. |
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If they dismantle the loop towards KR puram side, how on earth are we going to turn towards that side? exit towards BEL circle side loop, take a U turn and come back? That will be disastrous. Quote:
![]() I usually try to stay in the smaller single lane even when my destination is towards esteem mall side. That lane is mostly empty beyond the KR puram loop while the main lane would have piled up quite a bit. During peak hours, if I have to go towards city from my home in Amruthahalli, I prefer to go up to Veerannapalaya through the Jakkur-Dasarahalli road, get onto ORR and climb up the ramp towards city at the Hebbal flyover. This way, I will be entering the congestion prone stretch of the flyover almost at the fag end. The distance is around 2 km more, but usually this is faster by at least 10 minutes. If my destination is towards BEL circle side, I don't come to Hebbal at all. Just take right towards Kodigehalli from Kodigehalli gate signal, get onto Tata nagar/badrappa layout road and come down to ORR near the big bazaar. My colleague who commutes to his office in MG road in the morning peak hour takes the same route but continues onto Nagashettyhalli and sanjay nagar after crossing the ORR near big bazaar. There is a railway gate to content though, on this stretch but he says it is still faster than via Hebbal. | ||
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So, if I am getting back home after 10pm, I prefer either getting down the Hebbal Flyover and then take the Tatanagar-Kodigehalli Road to reach home or at times BEL circle and both are almost same in terms of time consumption. The other option I also try at times is via New BEL road and BEL circle and this decision happens right when I am nearing Mekhri circle and how frustrated I already am! Quote:
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Things have changed now and Traffic below also moves faster from ORR towards Esteem mall due to breaking of the gaps between the Pillar for a right turn. Quote:
At peak times narrow sections get clogged but traffic still moves faster. So from Tatanagar I take the road leading to Doddabommasandra Arch via Railway Gate and Vyasa International School - Here traffic is well managed at peak hours due to cops' presence. Quote:
I have been lucky since past 8 months that I never travel at Peak hours. I cross Hebbal at 0640 in the morning and around 4:30 in the evening. So Hebbal option works for me in both directions. Earlier to this, even with 11am departure from home, I used to take BEL - Mathikere - IISc - Sankey Tank - Cauvery Theatre route to City - Indeed faster than the Hebbal option any day. Now the main point - Majority of the Traffic is To and from the Airport and for them, these alternates won't work till there is someone like Me or you inside to tell them about these ![]() Bottom line is that this Royal New Mess is now making news everyday in newspapers as it affects Airport bound passengers badly. So I am sure long term solution is on cards but when it will be executed is what we need to wait and watch. Last edited by paragsachania : 24th June 2016 at 10:26. | |||||
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Reason: Simply put, there is no possible solution to this. ![]() Though I have completely stopped using this part of the town for commute, I still dread the time this used to me my daily path and feel skittish every time I must go that way. Coming to the 'No.1 Contender - Hebbal Flyover', I think I hate the road more for the way it is laid than the traffic it builds up. These morons have left so much gap between the flyover section joints that its a bone jarring ride every time the tires go over these. And if you even try to slow down a bit to negotiate these craters, another jerk from behind honks away to glory!! ![]() What I fathom to understand is that road tax is Premium in Bangalore but the roads themselves are below repulsive. Wonder where (or to whom) the money flows into. Last edited by Vik0728 : 24th June 2016 at 12:13. | |
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I have been lucky whenever I have taken that route. Don't remember getting stuck anytime . Yes, roads were bad earlier especially the narrow section between the ganesha temple and Tatanagar, and again the divided stretch from there on, but all that seems to have been repaired now. I also found one more option going via some interior roads to avoid the narrow section. This road takes me closer to Trio school on Kodigehalli main road. | |||
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