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But .. a 2005 3.0, running 1.28L, is quoted at 3 lakhs. How will you get a 2008, 2.2L for 3.0L ? Either one of these set of numbers is not right. | |
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BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hyderabad
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Newbie Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: DELHI
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| ![]() This is something that I truly believe requires the patrons on this forum to be totally and brutally honest. Please don't hold back. My younger bro has taken a fancy to SUVs like many of his friends. We have outrightly said 'No' to buying anything new since the family already owns a hatch and a sedan. Now, through his rather suspicious research, he has unearthed a "good" deal. The deal is:
It seems his decision is being driven by the fact that we won't have to shell out much. However, I have some rather serious, borderline nightmarish, doubts about this option:
Am I overreacting or is this an already-wrecked option? Just blast your opinion!! Let politeness take a backseat here so that He can see the feedback!! ![]() ![]() Last edited by Technocrat : 29th January 2014 at 21:25. Reason: Only 2 smilies per post allowed. Thanks |
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| ![]() Actually, even i get these ideas quite often. The old safari, pre-V2 indicas and early model sumos were not in any way reliable or refined or particularly driver oriented. But, the crude and unrefined nature coupled with niggling issues actually make them interesting. I was evaluating the purchase of a 96 Sumo, but it did not materialize. Anyways coming back to the topic, Early model safaris where known to be totally troublesome and my neighbourhood mechanic has repeatedly asked me to stay away from safaris, even relatively new ones. The decision mainly has to be taken based on the time available to be allocated for repairs( which would be quite high ![]() |
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| ![]() My suggestion to your brother will be to stay away from such a deal. A fourteen year old car with 80,000kms on ODO will ensure that he becomes the brand ambassadors of the workshop he will choose for repairs. The car will be due for re-registration next year. This will mean another expense coming your way. Do not get tempted by the price as the vehicle has already lived its life. |
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| ![]() We learn from our mistakes. It doesn't seem like a very expensive mistake to commit. That and I hope he loves tea. He will be drinking quite a lot of it at the neighborhood garage. However, getting it checked in a Tata service center and looking at history of the car should give a little predictability on the expenses you may incur in future. |
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It's OLD ! The Safari has now seen 3 newer engines. The TCIC engine was simple, but Under-powered... just 90 bhp driving a 2+ tonne .. :( If you dont trust your brother's driving, then do think again. A SUV requires a different approach. And more so the TCIC Safari, due to it's lower power specs. The parts are fine, but you can expect maintenance. Does it have a full history ? Last edited by condor : 29th January 2014 at 22:20. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() If it is being considered just because it is cheap, stay away from this one. It is a decade and a half old, poorly engineered product in the end and at 80,000 kms, will require quite a few major expenses. If your brother has a budget in mind and a few preferences, do share ![]() ![]() |
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Newbie Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: DELHI
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| ![]() Thank You folks! Your views resonate with my gut feeling and confirm that I wasn't being paranoid. |
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| ![]() Muahahahaha !! Let him buy it if you don't want him driving any more SUV's after that ! ![]() ![]() On a serious note, I wouldn't plonk my money on such an old Safari by any stretch of imagination. I am sure some more looking around will find him safari's in a better shape and age. |
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Some more details provided by @(Alok) SAFARI’s each engine is very different from each other not only in terms of cubic centimeters but many technical aspects. All models are TCIC (Turbo Charged Inter cooled) but 1. First 1948 CC model runs on IDI ( In Direct Injection technology) 2. 3.0L dicor runs on pushrod technology with a chain driven single OHC 3. 2.2 L dicor runs on timing belt driven DOHC technology Thanks | ||
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() Such an old vehicle.. Well you can run into problems. But there is a silver lining. Offer 1.2 If it turns out to be a dud, you can recover close to 80-90K just as the scrap value only. So take a TD. Check service history and stuff(if any). If the engine is smooth, brakes work, power steering does not make strange noises, all you will probably need to do is change the belts and stuff(~10K) A Heavy vehicle does have a good scrap value. |
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Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore
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| ![]() For 1.5 Lakhs, Pick up an early bolero. Would offer more peace of mind. Not to mention cheaper spares. |
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| ![]() I would suggest let him go ahead and buy that. After driving a few days, he would forget owning / driving an SUV forever if that's what you want ![]() On a serious note - just two words -- stay away. |
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| ![]() Hello tbhpians, Its been a while since i have been looking out for a pre-worshipped SUV With a budget of 4-5Lakhs .Test drove a lot of them.Never came close to liking any of them mostly because they were way out of my budget and a few of them which were very ill maintained ![]() Had given up on the safari because most of the Safaris(2006-2009) i test drove were really pathetic and had made up this picture in my mind that a used Safari is not worth at all. Today from a friend ,heard of a safari 2008 GX (2.2 Dicor)done almost 90K.Even though i was very reluctant to go and test drive the same, last minute on my friends request went for the same. First impressions liked the car and hence took a long test drive. My observations:- Exteriors-Lot of scars on the body.the front bumper might even need a repaint. Interiors-Very neatly maintained. Techs -Hard clutch, -Gears were sloppy, -While attempting an engine brake (5th to 3rd gear)@110kmph the gears did not slot in properly and was slipping (is it because of weak clutch or some gear box issue or my driving??)else it was a very smooth drive. -Couldn't feel turbo much.Don't know why! -The indicator switches and the horn was not working. -Breaks were very precise.(Did try breaking at a speed of 80 to a standstill and yes Really impressed. -The owner does have a detailed service history,even though the last service was done a year back. -Found very low levels of engine oil. -The tyres looked like as if there is still 50% life left in them.The owner told us that they were stock ones. ![]() -Insurance expiring soon. -Suspension feels good even though there is a slight "swish" sound from the front left one. The owner is asking for 4.5Lakhs. IMHO i feel the car is good.Since its a safari and looking at the Kms done i think 4.5L is a bit too much and soon the insurance,service and tires will cost me close to 50K+. Of-course i will verify service history and all the credentials at a reputed TATA service station before striking a deal if at all it happens. Please shed some "Gyan " here. 1.How much should i offer for the car? 2.Which service station(Bangalore)?and what do i ask them for?(just service history or should i ask them to do a complete service for me so that i would know the exact status of the vehicle.) 3.What are the other crucial things i should look for? 4.Timing belt if needs to be replaced,Cost? 5.Would this Safari last me for another 5Years 100000Kms(Long drives)? Looking forward for some good gyan which would help me decide. Cheers Last edited by moralfibre : 26th March 2014 at 07:04. Reason: Only two smileys per post permitted. Thanks! |
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