[chinmaypillay]

Originally Posted by hserus

Just what semi synthetic oil have you been filling?

The spec that Mahindra asks you to fill if you don’t fill maximile feo is all truck oils.

Search previous posts - including one or two from the past few days for recommendations that mostly cover other Mahindra vehicles but will work for your Xylo.

Thanks for your suggestion, I used Bosch engine oils previously and was not satisfied. Hence the thought on going for Fully synthetic if its worth it.

Will have a look, thanks again for the help!

[arvindmanju]

Originally Posted by chinmaypillay

Thanks for your suggestion, I used Bosch engine oils previously and was not satisfied. Hence the thought on going for Fully synthetic if its worth it.

Will have a look, thanks again for the help!

Use 15-40 API CH4 or 15-40 API CI+ oils.

HP milcy Turbo tech is good
Shell Remula R4

If you want semi synthetic GS Caltex platinum KIXX is good.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by arvindmanju

Use 15-40 API CH4 or 15-40 API CI+ oils.

HP milcy Turbo tech is good
Shell Remula R4

If you want semi synthetic GS Caltex platinum KIXX is good.

You can take anything ch4 or higher and these days there are some ck4 rated oils in the market. Try those (check amazon)

The standard Maximile FEO is an excellent oil for the price. I just tried a friend’s 93k km scorpio after filling FEO and it was quite smooth.

[TROOPER]

Originally Posted by arvindmanju

For Hexa use GS Caltex Platinum Kixx or HP Milcy Turbo tech 15w 40.

Sorry for the late reply.

TASS are saying that they don’t mind us using our own oil, but if engine issues crop up, warranty could be voided since there would be no entry in the system that engine oil was changed. I didn’t retort with ‘what about the oil filter? Won’t that be proof enough that oil was changed?’. Will see how they respond next time.

Got the service done, and they filled up Castrol Magnatec Pro T 5W 30 (210LX1). Isn’t this a synthetic oil? The SA told it’s semi synthetic. Anyone got any idea about this? Engine runs way more smoother now. Vibrations are down by more than 50%.

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by TROOPER

Sorry for the late reply.

TASS are saying that they don’t mind us using our own oil, but if engine issues crop up, warranty could be voided since there would be no entry in the system that engine oil was changed. I didn’t retort with ‘what about the oil filter? Won’t that be proof enough that oil was changed?’. Will see how they respond next time.

Got the service done, and they filled up Castrol Magnatec Pro T 5W 30 (210LX1). Isn’t this a synthetic oil? The SA told it’s semi synthetic. Anyone got any idea about this? Engine runs way more smoother now. Vibrations are down by more than 50%.

I would suggest you use the oil provided by the TASS till your car is in warranty. As long as the oil meets the grade and specification mentioned in the owners manual, you should be good.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by TROOPER

Got the service done, and they filled up Castrol Magnatec Pro T 5W 30 (210LX1). Isn’t this a synthetic oil? The SA told it’s semi synthetic. Anyone got any idea about this? Engine runs way more smoother now. Vibrations are down by more than 50%.

Group 3 synthetic and a good oil, and fairly ok for small diesel engines (which let us face it, anything sold in an Indian SUV qualifies as)

But not really the recommended oil for a Hexa. Maybe Tata changed their guidance? Or this is just the SA upselling oil?

Have some fun by checking if 5w30 A5/B5 is a recommended grade in the manual, and ask him if the warranty won't get voided because he is filling oil according to his own notions and contrary to the recommended spec. Ask him if he wants you to CC tata on the matter.

I have a feeling no further objections to outside oil will be raised.

Yeah it is NOT the recommended spec. They specify CI4+ or higher 15w40. Go ahead and fill Amsoil CK4 5w40 and enjoy life.

Lubricant Specifications
Item Specification Company and Brand Qty.
ENGINE OIL API CI4 Plus, (SAE
15W-40)
EXXON MOBIL Super Diesel 15W40 CI-4 Plus
7.5 Litres
PETRONAS TATA MOTORS Genuine Oil - Engine Oil
CI4+ 15W40
IOCL Servo TATA Motors Genuine oil CI4 Plus
GTX Professional 15W40 CI 4+

[TROOPER]

Originally Posted by hserus

Have some fun by checking if 5w30 A5/B5 is a recommended grade in the manual, and ask him if the warranty won't get voided because he is filling oil according to his own notions and contrary to the recommended spec. Ask him if he wants you to CC tata on the matter.

I have a feeling no further objections to outside oil will be raised.

Yeah it is NOT the recommended spec. They specify CI4+ or higher 15w40. Go ahead and fill Amsoil CK4 5w40 and enjoy life.

They filled up this oil under silver AMC. Checked our Hexa group and saw another owner’s (Delhi) invoice which showed the same oil being used. So the use of this oil seems consistent throughout TASS.

Called up the SA and when I questioned him about the oil being SN and not CI4+ grade, he responded saying whatever we use is under instructions from Tata, and I shouldn’t worry.

For the next 6 months I hope this SN grade oil suffices. Will have to take a call whether to continue with it or switch to Castrol GTX 15w40 and stick to it. My only concern is with 7600 kms on the odo, hope it’s not too early with the synthetic oil. I’m sceptical of using my own oil since TASS is hanging the warranty void thing over my head. And even if I bypass that, there’s the engine head issue cropping up in Hexas and Safaris which if I encounter will fall on my head if I use my own oil.

[hserus]

It is API SN and ACEA A5/B5. API SN and ACEA A5 are petrol specifications. ACEA B5 is a light duty diesel specification, which is what makes it OK for small diesel engines.

Tata must really change the recommendation in their manual though. Can you send in a query to Tata Motors on whether they actually recommended 5w30 A5/B5, if so there must be a technical bulletin or something.

That engine head issue reported was a one off. This is a bulletproof and rock solid stable engine.

ps: Look at this bulletin from the Castrol website about Magnatec

https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/9509A34050E79AFF80257E7A0029BF41/$File/BPXE-9Z8Q8S.pdf

Application
Castrol MAGNATEC Professional T 5W-30 is suitable for use in automotive gasoline and diesel engines where the
manufacturer recommends an ACEA A5/B5 or A1/B1 5W-30 lubricant.
Castrol MAGNATEC Professional T 5W-30 is Approved by TATA MOTORS for Gasoline/Diesel versions of BOLT & ZEST.

Nothing about recommending it for Hexa or Safari.

Originally Posted by TROOPER

They filled up this oil under silver AMC. Checked our Hexa group and saw another owner’s (Delhi) invoice which showed the same oil being used. So the use of this oil seems consistent throughout TASS.

Called up the SA and when I questioned him about the oil being SN and not CI4+ grade, he responded saying whatever we use is under instructions from Tata, and I shouldn’t worry.

For the next 6 months I hope this SN grade oil suffices. Will have to take a call whether to continue with it or switch to Castrol GTX 15w40 and stick to it. My only concern is with 7600 kms on the odo, hope it’s not too early with the synthetic oil. I’m sceptical of using my own oil since TASS is hanging the warranty void thing over my head. And even if I bypass that, there’s the engine head issue cropping up in Hexas and Safaris which if I encounter will fall on my head if I use my own oil.

[TROOPER]

Originally Posted by hserus

That engine head issue reported was a one off.

Not really. Can name 10 owners from the top of my head. We conducted a poll on our telegram group and around 10% owners have had an engine head changed, among 500+ members.

Nothing about recommending it for Hexa or Safari.

Pretty sure they’re using it to keep owners happy. Synthetic oil goes upto 5k for 7.5l for Hexa, Safari. The above used oil is billed for 3.3k.

Will email Tata of the same. Let’s see how they respond. Or if they even bother

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by TROOPER

They filled up this oil under silver AMC. Checked our Hexa group and saw another owner’s (Delhi) invoice which showed the same oil being used. So the use of this oil seems consistent throughout TASS.

Called up the SA and when I questioned him about the oil being SN and not CI4+ grade, he responded saying whatever we use is under instructions from Tata, and I shouldn’t worry.

For the next 6 months I hope this SN grade oil suffices. Will have to take a call whether to continue with it or switch to Castrol GTX 15w40 and stick to it. My only concern is with 7600 kms on the odo, hope it’s not too early with the synthetic oil. I’m sceptical of using my own oil since TASS is hanging the warranty void thing over my head. And even if I bypass that, there’s the engine head issue cropping up in Hexas and Safaris which if I encounter will fall on my head if I use my own oil.

See, if your running is high, what I would suggest is you change to the oil you want after running the TASS oil for say 3K kms. Hexa oil filter is easily available in open market/boodmo. This would be expensive but I do not see any other option since the TASS will not entertain warranty issues in case something happens to engine and you have used a outside oil according to their records. My neighbor has a first hand experience with it and he ended up selling his Tigor. Basically, he used his own oil, do not know which, every service. The engine developed compression issues when the car was in extended warranty period. Tata denied even looking into the issue since as per their records outside oil was filled.

It is better to spend some extra money and keep the warranty intact.

[TROOPER]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

See, if your running is high, what I would suggest is you change to the oil you want after running the TASS oil for say 3K kms.

It is better to spend some extra money and keep the warranty intact.

My running isn’t high. And I don’t mind using the oil from TASS.

Currently the only issue is that they’re using SN grade oil instead of CI4+. I also don’t mind spending the extra bucks for CI4+ synthetic oil at TASS if available.

I’m pretty sure Tata is using SN since cost is low compared to CI4+ and unsuspecting owners would be happy.

[arvindmanju]

Strange how Hexa is going to use 5W-30 oil.
As suggested by sagarpadaki and hserus use current oil in your Hexa for around 3K km and change to CI+ oil.
Last week I got my Storme 400nm oil changed to HP Milicy Turbotech which is a CI+ oil.
For Safari/Hexa 2.2L engine, mineral oil will do. Never seen a big difference changing to full synthetic oil, both in Dicor and Storme I am using mineral oil.
TOP Oil filter cost INR 240 its one oil filter for all TML 2.2L engines.

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by TROOPER

My running isn’t high. And I don’t mind using the oil from TASS.

Currently the only issue is that they’re using SN grade oil instead of CI4+. I also don’t mind spending the extra bucks for CI4+ synthetic oil at TASS if available.

I’m pretty sure Tata is using SN since cost is low compared to CI4+ and unsuspecting owners would be happy.

Tata Motors themselves released Tata Motors Genuine engine oil CI4+ 15W40 & CH4 15W40 – Priced at Rs. 185/- per Ltr in 2018.

Why would they fill something else I wonder. Oh yeah, these oils do not cost a bomb to make, but you do pay for the fancy cans and even fancier names from aftermarket.

Press Release

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by TROOPER

My running isn’t high. And I don’t mind using the oil from TASS.

Currently the only issue is that they’re using SN grade oil instead of CI4+. I also don’t mind spending the extra bucks for CI4+ synthetic oil at TASS if available.

I’m pretty sure Tata is using SN since cost is low compared to CI4+ and unsuspecting owners would be happy.

Ask TASS to show you the circular where it is mentioned that API SN grade oil can be used in place of API CI4+ for hexa. If they are not able to show you the circular,ask them to give it in writing signed by the service manager on their company letterhead. Then you can take it up with Tata.

[arvindmanju]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

Tata Motors themselves released Tata Motors Genuine engine oil CI4+ 15W40 & CH4 15W40 – Priced at Rs. 185/- per Ltr in 2018.


Press Release

Don’t know who’s is using this product. I have never seen any TASS stock up IOC servo oil, in Bangalore they use either Castrol or Mobil. In TASS Amrithsar I have seen them using Petronas engine oil.
Don’t understand what was the point in launching this oil when they don’t use it in their own service centre.