[shivasuma]

Originally Posted by sidindica

For those calling the verna overpriced, check out how much the city is priced at and how underequipped the city is. And please compare the ex showroom price, not the on road price. The verna is fantastically and competitively priced. Just what I expected, in the range of 7-11 lakhs ex showroom. And check the features that the SX-O comes with.

The city is horribly overpriced. No questions on that. I would never put down close to 13L on a 4 speed auto. About the features, well some of them are just a novelty thing for the first few days. The SX seems ok to me. Some doubts I have on the new Verna are that it might not be fuel efficient in the city (ever present turbo-lag). I am also very apprehensive about the service costs. My first paid service on the i20 diesel cost me 5K. Anyways I will take a test drive and decide between New Verna SX/SX(o) and Cruze.

One question I had was between the cruze and the new Verna, which is a better handler?

[opendro]

I second that, sidindica. People keep comparing the prices of other top-end cars with ANHC, which is under-equipped. I too feel that Hyundai has a winner or at least one among the winners.

[bala80]

I meant the view through the IRVM. Of course it is also true that I don't like the rear profile of the car. Looks a bit bulky and disproportionate.

Originally Posted by Surprise

Agree with you. This rear thing puts me off when it comes to Verna design. Vento is worst?? I liked it a lot though the tail lamp could have been bettered

Rear seats of verna has very poor thigh support..even rear seat center portion has a little bumpy leather packing

On front visibility, for me it looks like both does not offer a great view

Confusion continues

[sriramv.iyer]

I have an ANHC and i20 CRDi Asta(O) [with six airbags and sunroof]

I honestly prefer ANHC to i20. I used to HATE ANHC - But now regret I bought the high-end Hyundai - What use is all gizmos if the basic car isn't great? Terrible AC, Lousy steering, dynamics like a boat and so on. [On paper has 90 BHP and 224 Nm Torque!]

I'll rather plonk my money on arrogant Honda instead of unstable Hyundai with all the gizmos.

12.5L for a Hyundai Verna (OTR Bangalore?)

[ajman28]

I feel the prices are very competitive. So looks like almost all OEM's in this segment have aligned themselves and got the prices pretty much in the right slot except for Honda.

Well done Hyundai.

[AutoIndian]

Today's TOI carries the news of new Verna launch.

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HMIL has set up an aggressive target of selling at least 45000 units in the first year.

Strangely though there is no ad of the new Verna in today's TOI, whereas the Pune Times carries an ad of Optra Magnum Diesel @ 8.62 lacs (free insurance). Is this the new Verna effect?

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[optimist]

Watching a few movies where radio locks are decoded by handheld computers, it better to have the key lock in the steering?

A google search for keyless auto theft or similar throws up scary data.
an example is Car Theft by Antenna - Technology Review
What happens if the programmable keyfobs get a grey source? i'm willing to bet the auto manufacturers do not have a military grade secure facility to make them.

To start/stop the car, either the button or a key will be required once. A remote opener can suffice as we have been doing this all along. It is better to lock the vehicle manually from inside when parking to avoid any chance of key sniffers and decoders.

Maybe this particular discussion is better off the the relavant thread but in view of the verna variants , i preferred to do it here as the sx only seems to be better after reading the above.

If the same seat trim can be made in a leather of our choice to bring it up to the sx-o, the rear seat can be brought up to provide more comfort.

Chrome handles? Do not affect driving. Why pay money to look good in other's eyes?

6 Airbags? The extra four might be helpful in the rarest cases.

All the rest being the same, why not the SX at 11,38,000 on road Bangalore, instead of the the SX-O which is at 12,56,000?

[karanraheja]

I dont think it is competitively priced ! A buyer would surely bring the Cruze LT into radar (after stretching the budget). But this car should do well since it is loaded to the brim, Hyundai A.S.S. , looks good and has a good 1.6 CRDI under its hood ! I just hope VW does not hike the prices of the Vento soon and instead give us additional features !

[phoenix_rising]

Thought of sharing Verna brochure

file has been splitted in to 3 parts due to size limit

[sandeep3in]

Friends – I was looking at a diesel sedan with budget constraint of 10 Lakhs, My options was limited to Sx4 D (VDi) and now the Verna (1.4 ).

Any feedbacks on the models mentioned with respect to the engine and features. ABS is a feature which makes stretch by budget to the Sx4 zdi and verna 1.6 crdi and this is missing in the lower variants.

Iam also particularly interested in knowing the GC for the verna when compared to the SX4 .

[ajaynaphade]

Just an update: Yesterday, I went to have a look @ 'New Fluidic Verna', a carbon grey color. Fantastic, out of this world. My grouse is with the beige interiors and under thigh support @ rear seats.
Can we improve the thigh support with some sort of extra cushioning, please answer?
Following are Pune OTR prices of few petrol cars, IMO 'New Fluidic Verna' very well looks like a VFM car when compared to 'Honda City'. It may seem pricey when compared to Vento but here is the catch. Look at the specification and equipment level of 'New Fluidic Verna' and Vento and all of us will realize that it’s not at all expensive.
I beg to differ with members who call Vento as a VFM car, how can a car with, if not many but few design flaws, average equipment level can be termed as a VFM car? A question.
How many of us would have bought a Vento if it was not VW and any other not well known brand, let’s say ‘ICML’?
I agree with ‘The Master’, this car is priced excellently. This Saturday, I will go with my SLR and click some pictures of 'New Fluidic Verna', carbon grey color.

[mpksuhas]

Originally Posted by sandeep3in

Friends – I was looking at a diesel sedan with budget constraint of 10 Lakhs, My options was limited to Sx4 D (VDi) and now the Verna (1.4 ).

Any feedbacks on the models mentioned with respect to the engine and features. ABS is a feature which makes stretch by budget to the Sx4 zdi and verna 1.6 crdi and this is missing in the lower variants.

Iam also particularly interested in knowing the GC for the verna when compared to the SX4 .

Ah, Sandeep same here. I was also on lookout for a diesel sedan in same budget range. The 10 L rs limit was made after I stretched out from the budget of diesel hatchbacks ( around 7 lakh range). Then came to know only Sx4 ZDi comes with ABS/ EBD so the budget was stretched to 11 lakh. Now its a dilemma, Verna's bells and whistles list is huge when compared to Sx4, got all disc brakes and a 1.6 L engine. But on the other side I am finding conflicting views regarding Hyundai's diesel engine reliability (past 70k kms)

Also, thanks to 'Optmist' for uploading the brochure link yesterday night itself.

[shivasuma]

Originally Posted by ajaynaphade

I beg to differ with members who call Vento as a VFM car, how can a car with, if not many but few design flaws, average equipment level can be termed as a VFM car?

Can you please elaborate on the design flaws? The new Verna is a good car but calling other cars as "flawed" is plain ignorant. VFM is again a very subjective term. If you want a lot of features in a car, then Verna might be value for money. If you want driving pleasure then its far from VFM. Look at what you want in a car and then decide whether it fits or not. All cars in the market are designed after a lot of research. Each car is good in its own way. See if the car is designed in the way you want and go for it.

[phoenix_rising]

Check out the New Fluidic Verna Ad

The music is amazing.....

Also uploaded at youtube

YouTube - The New Fluidic VERNA - TV Commercial

[automaticfan]

Originally Posted by sriramv.iyer

I have an ANHC and i20 CRDi Asta(O) [with six airbags and sunroof]

I honestly prefer ANHC to i20. I used to HATE ANHC - But now regret I bought the high-end Hyundai - What use is all gizmos if the basic car isn't great? Terrible AC, Lousy steering, dynamics like a boat and so on. [On paper has 90 BHP and 224 Nm Torque!]
I'll rather plonk my money on arrogant Honda instead of unstable Hyundai with all the gizmos.
12.5L for a Hyundai Verna (OTR Bangalore?)

I agree with you. If I want to choose between ANHC and ANHV for petrol AT, I'll go with Honda even if they are arrogant. Why would I pay more money for 4 speed petrol AT from Hyundai where as I can get a funtastic Petrol AT (V-Tech, 5 speed, paddle shift etc) that has all basic safety feature and a great look. I was also a critic of Honda but now I understand why their cars are (were) selling like hot cake even though it was littel over priced.

We need a good car basically and not all those zigmos in a below par car in all aspects unless they price it low. I'm even willing to buy top end Manza for the sheer VFM even compromising on the quality, but not new Verna.

I really hope that Diesel AT is a big failure for Hyundai and they learn from their mistake and provide AT in lower end models that might attract some customers for the VFM.

BTW, I'm the owner of i10 AT and happy with the car for the money I have paid and purpose its serving for me. But I'll not buy Verna AT for their illogical pricing. Now I'm thinking of Scorpio 6 speed diesel AT as I can get that SUV if I pay another 50K more than Verna AT.