[babhishek]

Any updates post the check as an elite owner id be interested

[alphahere]

Originally Posted by babhishek

Any updates post the check as an elite owner id be interested

Originally Posted by The Hurricane

Thanks RSR for the quick reply. Mine is an Asta variant too but no alarm happens which in itself is strange. I have highlighted the same to HMIL. Let me get it checked by a dealership first.

I own an Asta too. As far as I remember, if the door is opened physically after locking the car, one of the horns starts blaring away.
But I believe you have to wait approx 30 secs or so after locking the car, post which the alarm gets armed. If the door is opened before this, it will not sound.

[garry.brant]

It all started when my workhorse Fiesta was damaged in rain. I knew that I would have to sell this car as the engine noise has increased , then I thought may be not lets install CNG kit and use this for long highway runs , then I realised that the breaks had some issues and would not give me the confidence that I need on highways. + it did not have airbags or ABS or Traction control or anything to aspire confidence on highways.
Still installed CNG , thought of giving it a shot but soon after that within 2 months it was decided that we will not spend more money on this car. We spent almost 40k getting the engine done after that rain incident and then spent 10k more getting nick picks like brake booster etc. I sold that car to cars24 and bought a Zen Estilo due to lack of funds.

Zen estilo because I had kept this car in the past and was very impressed with the ease of driving and the amount of money this car asks for ( Typical Maruti). Bought the car from a dealer in karol bagh for 1.10 . This happened in the month of Feb 2016. Since I was not working and earning money this came as a blessing with almost Zero expenses and the brakes were at least better than my Fiesta if not anything more.
Then came a day when our family , Me , wife and 2 in laws had to travel to Uttar Pradesh to attend a marriage. We decided to take my Estilo , before this I had not driven this car on a highway. I thought that this a CNG car which will save fuel costs and I would also be able to test the highway capabilities of this car.

I filled up the CNG tank with 10 Kg of CNG at 1am , the pressure for CNG is good around this time in the night. We started early in the morning around 7am to beat the office going traffic. The car drove good with 4 people , with the total weight being around 450 kilos. Including the CNG cylinder. We did not have stop for fuel and we still had CNG when we reached our destination, which was approx 170 kms from our home. We took the palwal aligarh road to reach Sasni, the car scrapped multiple times due to the poor conditions of the road.

Now comes the nightmare. After attending the event , we decided to leave in the evening. We started around 5pm and it was dark by the time we reached the highway. I realised that I could barely see anything. The headlights if the estilo were too poor and the glare from the incoming traffic was killing my eyes. It was probably due to the scratches on the windshield, which I never realised due to my restricted driving in the city of Delhi. I was scared like anything , also contributed to this was the wrong choice of route due to my father in law insisting that he knows shortcuts and I wanted to follow Google maps. Using both the advices confused as all and I struggled during the journey to concentrate on the road. Finally I decided to stick to google maps and give a deaf ear to my in laws. The CNG drove for 210 Kms with 10 Kg.We reached Delhi safe and sound but only I knew how, since I was the only driver in the car.

Things started to jump in head when at home. Am I driving a car which I can not take to highways when I want to , what if me and wife plans a vacation and we want to take the car..? Is this even a highway car ..? Does it have the safety equipment that can save us in a mishap..?All these questions kept boggling in my mind for quite some time. I shared this with my wife and she agreed that this is not a highway car and we did not buy this for highways. She told me that she never thought that I would take this car on highway and she wanted to suggest me to take a driverless rental from myles or Zoomcar , but she didn't as I had already decided to take Estilo on the UP trip. We both talked and had a meaningful conversation , while considering everything like Vitamin M and safety features and when to buy the car. I got the permission to search for a good car , but she had told me that , it can be either from Maruti or from Hyundai NOTHING ELSE.
So the search began , I asked a question on TBHP from GURUs, about which car would be a good fit for Delhi and CNG. I was checking between i20 and Jazz(i forgot my wife told me to look for only Maruti and hyundai), you know Bhpians . I got a positive response on i20. I considered Maruti Swift too, but gave up on this since I was not buying diesel, due to ever increasing pollution and ban on diesel engines. And the shape is not impressing anymore , its too old even after the facelift.I gave up on Jazz due to low end torque issues and also due to the maintenance and the cost of replacement parts.

I have forgot to mention this , I was not looking for a new car. I was looking for a pre worshipped car. I knew I would have to spend a bit of money on Knick knacks , but that was accounted for.I zeroed down my search to i20.

I started looking on OLX, carwale , Cartrade and several other sites to find a suitable car. We did not want to buy anything below 2011 and we decided that this time we will buy either the SPORTZ or ASTA as we needed the safety features in the car , with ABS and Airbags as non negotiable factor.Then our Vitamin M factor was taken care of , we were still keen on not buying a new car. This allowed us to have a budget of around 3.5 for a used car. This means Zero EMI.

I saw few i20s old shape which were all SPORTZ variant, I did not select any of those , because suddenly it struck to my mind that most of the time, my wife would be the co passenger and I was not ready to let her die YET..(SARCASM ).
After checking out those cars we walked into Mahindra First Choice in Gurgaon. Our eyes drooled when we saw Mid Shape i20 Asta standing right across the door. We saw the car and fell for it , but we wanted to keep our cool because we still have to negotiate to get it home in a affordable price. We went in and asked for the list of cars available. In the list it was priced as 4.5 lakhs, 2013. I told the sales girl that I am interested in the i20 Asta they have but the price they are asking for is too high. Like usual Fchoice stuff , she said ,”Sir i20 to rukti hi nahin hai , iske bhi do buyer hai ready , but payment baaki hai" as they want to take loan”. I told her that I will be doing full payment right now and wanted her to check what is the best price she can offer. She checked with her senior and came back with a 4.25 price. I was almost ready but kept my cool and said that see my budget is only 3.5 and I showed her the list of cars that i had with me. I told her that I can max spend 3.8 lakh or else I have the list of cars in delhi and I would be glad to buy one from the list.
She again checked with her Senior and told me that last they can do is 4.10 . I told her that it was not in budget and the max i can do is 3.9 without warranty from First choice (as their warranty only covers engine and transmission). She politely refused and we prepared to leave in our ever cute Estilo. We just reached our car and were about to put it in first gear, when the same girl came our and waved hand to us to stop. We stopped and met her again , she told me that if we can agree on 4.0 and we will close the deal. I would have bought it in 4.10 too , but this is something only I knew.

We agreed and paid 25K advance by online transfer and got the reciept, we also decided to exchange our Estilo for which they were paying 60K. Its a 2007 Estilo with 76K on Odo , CNG endorsed on papers. Lil bit of bargain on that end and they agreed to pay 85K for Estilo too.
I told them that I would take the delivery after 3 days at Akshay Tritaya and thats the day when I will handover Estilo as well. They happily agreed as well , coz they would service the car and change the Belts as per my request. The car was scratchless and Loaded to the Brim. I inspected the car for anything that needs to be done before delivery but could not find anything. Came Akshay Tritaya and I took the delivery of Our Nex Gen i20 Asta. Spanking new (though 3 years old)
The entire process was very smooth , Thanks and honest and sincere people like Siddhartha at First Choice who proactively told me that belts needs to be replaced and that the turn indicators has some issue and I can leave the car for a day and it would be taken care off.

Here is the final Breakup for price:
Price of the car: 400000
Exchange for Estilo: 85000
Actual cash Paid: 3,15,000

What we got for this Price:
More space than Estilo , Fiesta.
ABS
2 Airbags for Driver and passenger.
Smart Key , don't need to have this in your hand , just go near the car and press the sensors, love this feature.
Forget turning the headlights ON and OFF, they are AUTOMATIC.
Do you have turn on Wipers in the rain, WELL I DON'T, they are Automatic too.
Super SILENT ENGINE.
LANE CHANGE function, It will blink twice if you change lanes.
Seamless Bluetooth streaming from multiple phones.
Steering mounted controls for Phone and Music.
Super Light steering , its a Boon in Cities like Delhi and Gurgaon.
Rack and Reach options for Steering
Height Adjustable Driver seat.
Auto Dimming IRVM, works like a charm.
Cabin Quality feels like a premium sedan than of a hatchback.
Awesome boot space, I think there will be 50% left after CNG installation.
Climate Control , works like a charm. Just set the temperature you want and leave the rest on the Computer devta.
Music player with USB , bluetooth and MP3 compatibility.

What have I added:
Lumar 70% tint on windows and Windshield. Cost 3300
Blaupunkt under the seat Active Sub: XLF 200A . Cost 10500
Boss Wiring kit Cost 1200
Line Converter Xenos. Cost 1200
Polk Audio Coaxial DB651 for Rear Doors. Cost 4000
S&B 4 Channel Amplifier. Cost 4000
Steering Cover Chocolate color (love the way it was stitched). Cost 650
Roots Horn . Cost 650
Seat Covers Art Leather with Blue Stitching. Cost 5500
Arm Rest with Chocolate Leather top. Cost 1200
Rubber Pads for Rear Suspension. 800
Already ordered:
Infinity reference C6500cx Components Cost 4800 These just came in today

Now few pics, sorry for the low quality. Me no digicam or SLR :

[Jag4]

Originally Posted by garry.brant

Arm Rest with Chocolate Leather top. Cost 1200
Rubber Pads for Rear Suspension. 800
Already ordered:
Infinity reference C6500cx Components Cost 4800 These just came in today

Now few pics, sorry for the low quality. Me no digicam or SLR :

Hey !

Congrats on the new acquisition, the i20 sure is a well rounded car.

I wanted to ask if you removed the OEM Armrest that comes fitted with the Asta Variant and installed this aftermarket one ? If yes then Why so ?
If you don't like that one or if its lying around with you, would you be willing to part with it ? I own a sports model and am in dire need of an armrest. Thanks in advance.

[garry.brant]

Originally Posted by Jag4

Hey !

Congrats on the new acquisition, the i20 sure is a well rounded car.

I wanted to ask if you removed the OEM Armrest that comes fitted with the Asta Variant and installed this aftermarket one ? If yes then Why so ?
If you don't like that one or if its lying around with you, would you be willing to part with it ? I own a sports model and am in dire need of an armrest. Thanks in advance.

Mine did not have any armrest , that comes in Asta O.
I have used armrests in most of my cars in the past, hence habitual to an Armrest.
If you need one I can talk to my installer and get one made with matching leather.

[ysak]

Originally Posted by garry.brant

. Came Akshay Tritaya and I took the delivery of Our Nex Gen i20 Asta. Spanking new (though 3 years old)
The entire process was very smooth , Thanks and honest and sincere people like Siddhartha at First Choice who proactively told me that belts needs to be replaced and that the turn indicators has some issue and I can leave the car for a day and it would be taken care off.

Here is the final Breakup for price:
Price of the car: 400000
Exchange for Estilo: 85000
Actual cash Paid: 3,15,000

Congrats. I'm also looking for an i20. but elite. hope i would be lucky as you and will get a clean car like yours.

[Jag4]

Originally Posted by garry.brant

Mine did not have any armrest , that comes in Asta O.
I have used armrests in most of my cars in the past, hence habitual to an Armrest.
If you need one I can talk to my installer and get one made with matching leather.

Thank you so much for the offer but I am stuck on getting the stock armrest since I want to maintain the stock look.

Sorry for the late reply.

[prateekvidya]

Hi all,
I am facing a unique issue with my i20 Sportz (2011 model) : my music system (factory built) works fine when it is powered on and all the buttons in the console also function properly. But the moment I use my steering controls to manage anything, the buttons in my console stop responding. To fix this, I just have to do a power reset and it works fine again (till I press any steering control button).
I have fiddled around with the fuse box and did a battery reset, but that has not solved the problem.
Any ideas ?

[Jag4]

So after reading a post in a Brezza ownership thread, I casually inquired from my trusted accessories shop about a Automatic Mirror Folding Relay(with a 1 year warranty) and to my surprise I was told that there was a product available with a coupler to coupler wiring harness from a fairly reputed company (RD) dealing with Gear locks, security systems etc. Knowing me well my dealer went ahead and ordered the product for me, I was told the installation could take place either at my house or at the dealer's depending upon my convenience.

Opted for it to be installed at my place and within 2 hours the installer was at my doorstep, took 15 minutes to install the product and Voila! My mirrors fold automatically now. NO wires were cut during the installation but there were two wiretaps that were used for the connection to the Central Locking system.

In the end it was a hassle free experience, the installation was smooth and with the warranty there is peace of mind. Costed me Rs.1500 with free installation.

[sanjeevgpc]

I own a 4 years old Hyundai i20 petrol (1/2L) and have faced this problem of rough cold start twice. The car has done 30K kms and has been maintained well.

Symptoms of problem:
1. Engine starts quickly but sounds very rough.
2. Switching off and starting again in few seconds doesn't change anything.
3. Engine makes some unfriendly noise like a diesel engine.
4. Lots of vibration and shaking of engine.

Solution:
1. Switch off / on a few times.
2. Let the engine running for 30 secs or so and engine becomes fine/smooth again.

Instances:
1. Three weeks back I washed my car and even sprayed some water in the engine bay and next morning I had this problem. The car started after a long crank but showed the mentioned problem. I suspected water in some connectors but no water was visible in the engine bay. The problem went away after a few restarts and after 30 secs/1 min of idling.
2. Yesterday evening I started the car and changed the parking position a bit and all was fine. Today morning I had the same problem again. Restarted a few times and let it idle for some 30 secs and it was all fine.

Possible areas of issue:
- Ignition timing?
- Spark plugs?
- Fuel system / fuel pump?

Need guidance of expert members from forum to diagnose the issue.

[pkulkarni.2106]

As far as I know, there's nothing to be worried about. Given that it's a cold weather right now, I think it's expected. Even my Santro Xing makes diesel like sound in the morning. But after driving a few kilometers it comes to normal.

But as a noob guess, I think it could be low engine oil (or some water seepage in engine oil as you've said that you sprayed water in the engine bay). And may be because of this it takes a minute of idle to bring things to normal?

But for peace of mind, you may show it to nearby garage. Have the mechanic inspect the issues.

Cheers!

[dark.knight]

Originally Posted by sanjeevgpc

1. Three weeks back I washed my car and even sprayed some water in the engine bay and next morning I had this problem. The car started after a long crank but showed the mentioned problem. I suspected water in some connectors but no water was visible in the engine bay. The problem went away after a few restarts and after 30 secs/1 min of idling.

Never, never spray water in the engine bay.. and I really hope the engine wasn't warm or hot when you did that. There are instances of parts of a hot engine literally ripping itself into two when water is poured into it due to the temperature difference. I simply don't understand why you felt the need to spray water to clean the bay, everyone knows that the best approach is to keep rag-threads to dip into water and gently cleaning the dusty portions.

You're only wasting fuel by switching on/off a few times, it'll not do anything to improve the noise/vibrations of the car. It appears that as the engine heats up to optimal operating levels the noise also normalizes so the best thing to do is to let the engine run a few minutes till it evens out.

You yourself said that the problem occurred after the water was sprayed into the engine, so how can this problem be fuel system and fuel pump? Where exactly was the water hitting the engine? Spark plugs help in starting the engine, I cant seem to connect that to a few minutes of rough running on startup. Also how can a previously perfect ignition timing be off with water hitting the engine?

Look at it logically, the only things to try here are 1) fuel injectors cleaning 2) empty the fuel tank and fill with fresh fuel (wont be the problem but still) and 3) checking hydraulic engine mounts. These are are simple things that can be guessed but my recommendation would be to straightaway go to the service station and let them figure it out. Here one cannot understand the sequence of events or service history afterall.

[rajismine]

There is nothing to worry and its normal on cold starts in cold season. As such you should not spray low pressure water into engine bay unless you have pressure air pump to clean it off.
- Ignition timing? - No Relation to this. If timing was an issue your timing sensor may throw an error and running will be erratic
- Spark plugs? - No harm in cleaning for maintenance or change to iridium. As such no relation since they sit deep and water cannot seep in
- Fuel system / fuel pump? - Again no relation
Only thing that happens with water wash at low pressure and if you turn on immediately are dry joints/salt deposit but it must have dried out by now hence the two things are not related
Engines mounts can cause such issues at times with wear and tear but not at this age and just 30K run...
regards
Rajeev

[rahul4640]

Originally Posted by sanjeevgpc

I own a 4 years old Hyundai i20 petrol (1/2L) and have faced this problem of rough cold start twice. The car has done 30K kms and has been maintained well.

Get the throttle cleaned thoroughly. I do not think that the the air temperature sensor or the Oxygen (O2) sensor is faulty, then the check engine light should remain on.

[sanjeevgpc]

Originally Posted by dark.knight

Never, never spray water in the engine bay.. and I really hope the engine wasn't warm or hot when you did that. There are instances of parts of a hot engine literally ripping itself into two when water is poured into it due to the temperature difference. I simply don't understand why you felt the need to spray water to clean the bay, everyone knows that the best approach is to keep rag-threads to dip into water and gently cleaning the dusty portions.

Yes I am aware that using water on engine is not a good idea. I cleaned the engine after a year or so and it was hardly any water which I poured using a jug on cold engine. Will be careful not to do that again but currently I am sure that the issue is not related to water ingress.

You're only wasting fuel by switching on/off a few times, it'll not do anything to improve the noise/vibrations of the car. It appears that as the engine heats up to optimal operating levels the noise also normalizes so the best thing to do is to let the engine run a few minutes till it evens out.

I switched off and on as I assumed some issue with electronics so wanted to off/on to reset the ecu and other electronics. Will try keeping it on if this issue is repeated again.

You yourself said that the problem occurred after the water was sprayed into the engine, so how can this problem be fuel system and fuel pump? Where exactly was the water hitting the engine? Spark plugs help in starting the engine, I cant seem to connect that to a few minutes of rough running on startup. Also how can a previously perfect ignition timing be off with water hitting the engine?

True. These are only my guesses from other posts on various forums on the www.

Look at it logically, the only things to try here are 1) fuel injectors cleaning 2) empty the fuel tank and fill with fresh fuel (wont be the problem but still) and 3) checking hydraulic engine mounts. These are are simple things that can be guessed but my recommendation would be to straightaway go to the service station and let them figure it out. Here one cannot understand the sequence of events or service history afterall.

I have already filled fresh fuel full tank. Let me go to the service station and take their opinion once.