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The Honda Amaze has been around for the last 5 years and is due for an update. According to reports, the third-generation iteration of the compact sedan will be launched in the Indian market in 2024, following its global debut.
The next-gen Honda Amaze will reportedly be based on a modified version of the current platform, which will also be shared with Honda’s upcoming mid-size SUV.
The sub-4 metre sedan is likely to borrow design cues from other models in Honda’s line-up, including the City and Accord. It will also get a revamped interior, replete with a floating touchscreen infotainment system, among other modern features.
Unlike the current Amaze, the new model will not be offered with a diesel engine. Instead, the car is expected to carry over the 1.2-litre, 4-cylinder petrol unit that powers the current model. This engine develops 89 BHP and 110 Nm and is paired with either a 5-speed manual or a CVT.
Source: Autocar India
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Honda has silently discontinued the diesel variants of the Amaze. The compact sedan is now available only with a petrol engine in three trim levels.
Honda introduced the Amaze facelift in August 2021. There were 4 diesel variants on offer at launch, with prices ranging from Rs. 8.67 lakh to Rs. 11.15 lakh (ex-showroom) for the top-spec CVT trim. The Amaze diesel was powered by a 1.5-litre oil burner that pumped out 99 BHP and 200 Nm.
Going forward, the Amaze will be available with the 1.2-litre petrol only. It develops 89 BHP and 110 Nm and comes paired with either a 5-speed manual or a CVT.
The facelift Amaze comes with a revised chrome grille, among other cosmetic updates. The car is equipped with features like LED projector headlamps with LED daytime running lights, a 7-inch touchscreen infotainment system, automatic climate control and cruise control.
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BHPian 07CR recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
My friend is looking to buy his first car in the family. Looking at my interest in cars, he turned towards me for the advice. He/his family are a complete newbie towards cars.
Set of requirements:
Options:
He was apprehensive of preowned cars, but now that I have suggested him for the same, he is now thinking on the same lines.
Quoted price for Amaze and Ignis are 5.75 L and 6 L (negotiable) respectively. Both are single owner cars. Have checked the Amaze and Ignis, and both appear to be in great condition. The go ahead will be given only if both cars get a green signal from Honda and Maruti service dealership.
Considering he is extremely tight on budget, I believe the preowned options (especially Amaze) make more sense, however, would like your opinions, considering this is his first car in the family.
Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
First car and clearly a close friend. Tell him to go for a new car. Reasons = if the used car turns out to be troublesome, he will be upset with you. New car is new car, especially when it's the first car of the family and hence, something that will bring immense pride & joy.
The Tiago CNG is one of the best implemented CNG systems I have seen. Between this and a used Amaze, better he goes for a new Tiago CNG.
Keeping his requirements in mind, he should also consider a new Maruti hatchback, something like a WagonR or an Ignis.
Here's what BHPian AZT had to say on the matter:
Just a heads up on the recent CNG price hike news. Your friend needs to realize if a yearly 10k run justifies buying a CNG and the decreased boot space, lining up at pumps etc. that comes with it.
Here's what BHPian Chetan_Rao had to say on the matter:
The Wagon R 1.2 would be a good addition to the choices list. Peppy, spacious, frugal, effortless to drive, fits the budget. It's a 'big' car in a small car form factor, and for small car money. I've recently been driving my dad's Wagon R 1.2 around town a fair bit and also drove it 1600 kms on a highway run. It's fantastic for what it is.
If your friend would prefer something a little less spacious but more contemporarily styled, look at the Ignis.
I'd avoid compact CNG hatchbacks as family cars, the boot is practically unusable.
Here's what BHPian sumeethaldankar had to say on the matter:
Wagon R/Celerio should be the choices he should be looking at. For a first car I would prefer something like a hatchback since he is complete newbie. A used car will come with its issues like eg was the car in a accident? or was it flood affected? etc. A new fresh car is the best option. Let him feel the new car smell rather than bear the soiled interiors of a used car.
Good luck.
Here's what BHPian sidpunjabi had to say on the matter:
My vote is for a new car, especially since you've mentioned that he and his family are newbies towards cars.
Instead of specifying a particular make/model, I would like to add another point of view:
I'm going to assume that the used car is out of OEM warranty. So at some point, he's going to need to head to a mechanic / FNG since older / used cars usually have a lower tolerance level to the regular abuse faced on our roads vs. their new-from-factory counterparts. Since it's the first car in the family, even the smallest dent/ scratch/ breakdown can feel monumental.
You never forget your first
Add to it the hunt for a. FNG, which could be a bit daunting for him at first (and that's assuming the mechanic doesn't take him for a ride - pun intended).
With new cars and extended warranties, there's that little peace of mind since ASCs usually don't mess with under-warranty cars. He can use this time to research on his car, find good FNGs and mechanics and just get better acquainted with the whole processes of taking care of his baby.
In the long run, a new car will be a win.
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BHPian pqr recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Honda i-DTEC engine
The Amaze has been the best-selling Honda product with a diesel engine, followed by the City
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Honda has announced that it has sold over 5 lakh units of the Amaze since it was first introduced in 2013.
According to Honda, the Amaze is their best-selling model, accounting for more than 40% of the brand’s cumulative sales. The car is sold in both domestic and export markets.
Tier 1 markets account for 40% of the Amaze sales, while Tier 2 and Tier 3 cities account for the remaining 60%. According to the company, 40% of Amaze customers are first-time buyers.
In the current fiscal, petrol variants accounted for 93% of the total sales and the share of automatic variants was 30%.
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BHPian dionysus recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Dear Team BHP,
Reaching out to the sea of wisdom contained in this forum.
I bought a Honda City CVT ZX from Capital Honda Chennai in Feb 2022 and have been enjoying the ride for the past 6 months. While renewing the motor insurance for my other car, I happened to notice that the motor insurance for the Honda City has a grave error on it. The insurance document has the car model as Amaze 1.2 VX CVT petrol and cubic capacity as 1199 with a IDV of 870000.00. I paid almost 1800000 for this car
The engine number mentioned matches the car.
I have raised the issue with Honda and Capital Honda (the dealership) and I am waiting for a response from them. Wanted to reach out as to what to do in the interim, is it fine for me to use the car or is the insurance void. Further what actions should I take against/steps should I take against Capital Honda.
I realize I should have been careful as well, but I matched the engine number and the critical dates and left the rest as it was a new car and thought a due diligence would have been done.
Requesting for some views on this.
Here's what BHPian locusjag had to say on the matter:
Depending on who the insurer is, you should be able to deal directly with them and provide your RC to show proof that it is a Honda City. You should be able to provide the invoice as proof similarly, to enforce a corrected IDV. Based on these new facts, the insurer should be able to re-calculate a premium and you should be able to pay the additional amount and they should send you an updated policy document.
Now, these are all standard transactions for the American insurers I work with, in my job as a Domain Consultant in a software company. Now, if your insurer is a PSU - this is going to be a tough ask. Those folks sell and maintain policies through outdated systems and such changes are sometimes impossible for them. If it is a modern organization such as Acko (or maybe a HDFC Ergo or an equivalent), paragraph 1 will suit them perfectly.
Last option would be to cancel that insurance policy and for you to just buy a new policy directly from Acko - if your insurer is capable of providing a refund for you. The reason I'm pushing Acko's name is that they pull vehicle information (year, make, model etc.) from the Government's Vaahan database based on your registration number. There's simply no scope to get these facts wrong with them.
Here's what BHPian Latheesh had to say on the matter:
Same thing happened with Royal Sundaram 8 years back back. My car model was mentioned as BEAT LT variant instead of SPARK LT in the policy document. I had to send them the soft copy of RC and they issued an endorsement certificate.
Here's what BHPian thanixravindran had to say on the matter:
Your insurance will be made null and void in case of a claim.
Since you would have paid the money to dealer during purchase, ask them to pay the difference in premium of correct IDV and model to get this endorsed in insurance document. You may be asked to show the vehicle for verification but since this is dealer mistake they will be able to do without it with the insurance company. If possible, please visit the dealership and complete it in a day to avoid delays.
Here's what BHPian anjan_c2007 had to say on the matter:
I remember a relative in the Navy, who had come to visit us. This was during the pre computerisation era of the 1980's. He was a doctor holding the rank of Surgeon Lieutenant (equivalent to Army Captain). Doctors in the Navy use such a prefix before their ranks. While seeing him off at the railway station, the reservation chart showed him as Sargeant Lieutenant. He was furious and said 'Sargeant' is a non commissioned officer (NCO) rank.
The Honda City of yours has also been demoted as Amaze this time by the insurers. Please send the concerned a legal notice through a lawyer asking compliance within two weeks or else face the consequences with a civil suit claiming specific relief, compensation, costs and damages.
Here's what BHPian gjnnbagal had to say on the matter:
I think insurance companies respective/local branch will rectify the mistake if notified with proper documentation (Must make the correction as early as possible).
On a different note, Solapur RTO issued me RC of 7040 CC Tiago, also they misprinted XT instead of XZ. (The car insurance documents and online registration details were fine without any mistake).
After giving written application for issuing new corrected RC, the RTO office gave me same RC with hand written correction and official stamp on it. Have a look at it:
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BHPian dvasudreddy recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Hello all, this is my first in this amazing forum. From the forum threads and comments, I came to the understanding how good this group is.
I'm a 32 year old salaried employee with a wife and a kid of 2 year old. I'm planning to buy a car, my first car. Will all the things to consider around and so many options available in the market, I'm just stumped and unable to decide anything. Let me say my requirements first.
One other thing, I'm a novice driver, well, pretty much basic.
Cars I have considered:
1) Honda Amaze CVT
Why? Honda brand, post sales services, CVT under 10 lacs, smoother and reliable family car (as per reviews), safety ( 4 star ncap rating)
Why not? No hill hold control, poor infotainment system (relatively), poor engine response (as per reviews because of CVT), no cruise control.
2) Altroz DCA
Why? Good looks, good ingress and egress ( i have elderly parents), safety (obviously), good speakers (as per reviews),
Why not? Unreliable post sales services of tata, unproven DCA transmissio in for Tata, no hill hold control
I have only listed those two option as I didn't consider cars with AMT transmission (as they reportedly have not so smooth transmission). If any AMT cars are good, I'm open for them as well. Thought about new Baleno also, but, not so sure about marutis build quality.
Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
Here's what BHPian SoumenD had to say on the matter:
Amaze CVT should be fine if you are ok with the looks. That 1.2L iVtec CVT combination is ultra smooth and reliable (speaking from personal experience). Being a Honda its fill it,shut, forget it kinda car. And unlike Maruti/Hyundai at least honda didn’t go too stingy by providing a compromised bodyshell. This one does well with a 4* GNCAP.
While I am a staunch supporter of TATAs for their impeccable 5* safety build, would be a bit wary of the DCA which is relatively new. Maybe if we have some owners of the model on forum, they can throw some light?
Btw if I were you, in this budget would also consider Nissan Magnite. That’s another rare 4* rated car(with stable bodyshell) and has a more powerful 1.0L turbo CVT which would be a better performer . Yes the interior quality is a bit underwhelming but do give it a look(& test drive).
Here's what BHPian rishi.roger had to say on the matter:
AMTs are not horrible, atleast not the recent ones. However they are not that smooth either. You will feel slight jerk/lag when the gear shifts. Its annonying initially if you have experienced anything like CVTs before, however you get used to AMTs over time and learn how to push the gas pedal to reduce that jerkiness.
AMTs are cheaper to maintain, they also allow some level of manual control (most AMT cars have a manual mode..which is not exactly a 100% manual as you can control the upshift but downshift may still happen automatically).Unfortunately most cars under 10L come with AMT as it reduces the cost of building for manufacturer.
Honda Amaze and Nissan Magnite are the two good picks anyday if you want the joy of automatics. Nissan's automatic is really good. If you want to spend a little more then can look for Venue Turbo Automatic which in my opinion is a good Car.
I like what Tata offers for money, particularly safety and build rigidity. However do check out if their refinement, fit and finishing suits you. You may notice gaps in paintwork, panel fitment, rubber sealing/gaskets, and higher NVH levels comparatively.
Here's what BHPian shancz had to say on the matter:
Since you're a new driver I would suggest to take a TD and then think about whether any car has enough power or not since this is quite subjective.
I agree with going for a proper automatic but your budget limits your options severely and so does the GNCAP rating. To provide you with some options I am skipping the GNCAP part which you can apply once you have taken some TDs and shortlisted.
Some suggestions for TD, not in order :
- Altroz DCA : already mentioned in OP
- i20 Sportz 1.2 IVT : 1.2 NA with CVT, no GNCAP rating
- Amaze : only concern would be the reports of quality issues like rusting doors as reported by members.
- Baleno AMT : Just to experience the AMT
Outside of these and if you prefer, check if you can get your hands on the previous gen Brezza AT or the Toyota Urban Cruiser which is still based on the previous gen Brezza so priced better and probably the mid variant can fit. GNCAP 4 stars but the interiors would look dated and the audio quality is no match to the Altroz though.
Here's what BHPian ajayc123 had to say on the matter:
Slightly against one of your constraints, but just one suggestion. For your first car, I could suggest you to think about MT, as it will remove your hesitancy of handling manual for the rest of your life. With that said, Brezza MT entry level could be within your budget, if you wish to consider.
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BHPian hanzt recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Yes, I know, I know, it's an apples-oranges comparison, one is a micro-SUV, the other a compact sedan, but allow me to explain how I ended up here.
I have a 16yr old 2nd hand Swift ZXI that I bought 7 yrs ago to learn driving & it has been our first car in the family. The car is still running fine (goes 100+km/hr at <3000 RPM, no issues), but there is something or the other part that keeps breaking down & I can't get myself to drive a manual through the city (Mumbai) traffic any more.
Nexon XMA
Brezza VXI AT
Mangite CVT
Kiger CVT
Sonet / Venue
Punch Adventure + Rhythm Pack
Amaze CVT Petrol S or VX Variants
Now one might say that if sedans are an option, then why not other sedans - Dzire (Swift with a boot, so no), Aura/Aspire (didn't like the looks + AMT), City (beyond budget).
New Honda Compact SUV
Thus after going through 100+ threads/posts on Team-BHP and other online reviews/videos, I have ended up with a two-way fight between Amaze & Punch, with Nexon still being the first love.
So far, I have scheduled a test drive for the Amaze and waiting on the Tata dealer to call me back for a test drive of the Punch/Nexon.
Any thoughts or suggestions from fellow BHPians on the above, and how I should go about this further given my low usage?
Here's what GTO had to say about the matter:
While the CVT is one of the smoothest AT gearboxes on sale, the AMT is the jerkiest. Having driven both, I can tell you to go for the Amaze CVT. The Punch AMT was painful to drive in traffic, like going to the dentist.
Here's what BHPian SoumenD had to say about the matter:
For such low running (1200-1300kms a year), do you really need a new car? Even if you do I would still suggest looking for a used car rather than plonking 10 big ones for any new car.
But still, if you are adamant about new, Amaze would be my pick among the two. CVT over AMT any day.
Here's what BHPian Eddy had to say about the matter:
Jeez, I wish the questions in my exams were this easy!
Between the two, go for the Amaze with eyes closed. My BIL bought one "recently" (it has done 7k kms in 3 years) and he couldn't be happier. Unless you want to wait, cross all twenty fingers and hope against hope that the mild hybrid of Grand Vitara is priced well, it is a no-brainer.
Here's what BHPian Dieseltuned had to say about the matter:
Amaze any day. Proven engine + decent rear bench + boot space for that occasional family trips. Fits perfectly.
Here's what BHPian condor had to say about the matter:
I don't see much to pick from your assessment there. End of the day, peace of mind is important. I will happily go in for a Tata if I like a model. But when you have that doubt at the back of your mind, I wouldn't suggest it to you.
Hence, looking at the points above, I would say get a used Jazz CVT. The model is what you liked, and a used one will be in line for the quantity of usage. Even if you use it regularly, I still don't see a running more than 600 km a month in the city. Once you get more comfortable and your running increases, you can go for a new one. By then we should see more cars that are proper automatics and not just AMT.
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BHPian maheshmenon recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Hi guys, a small disclaimer. This could be a long post for some. There is a TL; DR at the end of this post but please do provide your views.
I am in the market for a hatchback or compact sedan for my dad. The budget was 10 Lakh with some give or take some for flexibility. The car has to be a proper automatic (AMTs / IMTs not welcome, please). After some market research, we zeroed in on Honda Jazz and Honda Amaze both in the CVT avatar. We found them to be VFM and being a Honda, what could go wrong?
Now the deal is this, I cannot wrap my head around the fact that the Amaze is cheaper than the Jazz. I mean it just doesn't make sense to me! I mean apart from the platform differences, everything looks identical. We test drove both cars back-to-back and I found that both cars have an “acceptable” build quality at the said price point, under city driving conditions both perform as expected and on the open road both are equally mediocre. On a small note, I did feel that the Jazz was better built (in terms of shut lines and interior quality) and the Jazz felt peppier than the Amaze (especially on the open roads) but my dad strongly disagrees and puts it down to the “Placebo Effect” and the fact that I am biased towards the Jazz (I do admit the bias).
Before we draw conclusions, I would like to state here that my dad is a car aficionado, in short, I have a nagging feeling that if he has to choose between his four-wheeler and me, he would choose the former with no hesitation whatsoever. Heck, his Chevy Aveo still looks like it just rolled off the assembly line, every ding or even a decal that has come off is promptly fixed in a CASS (no FNGs for him), this even includes the battery on the remote. Not to mention that the car sticks to the regimen prescribed in the Owner’s Manual, irrespective of the car having even run shot of a thousand kilometers. I just attribute it to the rigidity that comes with old age and the fact that he’s been an engineer all his life following maintenance manuals to a tee.
Sorry for the rant and now coming back to the topic, the only difference between the Jazz ZX and the VX trim is the sunroof (not required) and the LED headlamps (preferred, but not a necessity). But when it is compared to the Amaze VX, I get the LED headlamps (yay!) and avoid the sunroof all at a cheaper rate than the Jazz VX. So basically, I get to keep my cake and eat it too and get a cherry on top in the form of a discount over the Jazz. So logically it has to be an Amaze, right? I mean it’s a no-brainer. Here’s where my ever-suspicious brain had me thinking. Am I missing something? Why is there a price difference between the two?
I would appreciate inputs from fellow members who have done a similar comparison and also owners on the differences in the models. Also, if anyone had figured out, why does the Jazz cost more?
TD; LR: Jazz and the Amaze VX - CVT for the most part seem to be on par. Cannot understand why the Jazz is more expensive than the Amaze. Your inputs will be well appreciated to help me select one.
Here's what BHPian SoumenD had to say about the matter:
Well, I already had a brio, so could relate to Amaze instantly while car shopping. Didn’t even feel like an upgrade except for the additional boot. However, as you mentioned, Jazz felt better built inside out for obvious reasons. I hear quite a few folks mentioning the same thing that how can a hatchback be costlier than a sedan? But the key aspect which everyone seems to ignore is the platform. Amaze is based on the Brio platform which was specific for developing countries. Whereas Jazz was always the global platform. Honda City is the relative sedan when you do a hatch:sedan comparison.
Anyways, to me Amaze or any such sub4m sedans never appealed in terms of looks. And Jazz was spacious with better interior quality. So it was sort of a no-brainer. Been 3 years and 13,000kms of fuss-free ownership. And the GNCAP rating further sealed my belief that it's a solidly built car by Indian standards. Even Amaze should be 4* (going by SA version rating), but the Indian version isn’t tested yet. Only issue with my 2019 Jazz is the stupid 6 months service interval which is now removed from 2020 BS6 model onwards.
Please note my views are from 2019 March/April. I have no idea what changes have been done to both the cars post that.
Here's what BHPian AYP had to say about the matter:
A thread for your main query already exists and many members including me have given their inputs in the thread and most are of the opinion that the premium for a premium hatch is justified over a compact sedan.
As far as the Jazz vs current gen Amaze is concerned, the Amaze is a bit more modern but with the Jazz, you are practically getting yourself a 4th gen City(without the boot) which we all know is a segment above the Amaze. You get a better build and a more premium-looking interior in the Jazz. Amaze IMO should be preferred only if someone specifically wants a sedan and/or isn't too happy with the relative lack of sales of the Jazz w.r.t. the Amaze (IMO, it shouldn't be a problem).
With the recent GNCAP rating of 4 stars for the Indian Jazz, the choice is quite clear IMO.
Here's what BHPian Latheesh had to say about the matter:
Difference between Made for India vs Global product. They just localised Jazz and removed features in India. Amaze was designed for India (which means some cost-cutting in places we do not see).
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BHPian naru80 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
I test drove the Amaze CVT today. Some impressions:
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