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BHPian rahulcmoulee recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Got the first service of my Harrier done today. Odo stands at 1033km after a month. Lots of long trips are planned in the next few months.
Following are my observations so far:
All in all, very happy with the vehicle so far. Looking forward to adding more miles to it. Leaving you with some pictures.
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BHPian subuiyer recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Took delivery of the Harrier Kaziranga KZA+ exactly a year ago, replacing Duster AWD as my primary vehicle. Having done two long drives recently (link) and the ODO crossing 18.5K, here are my experiences (and opinions) in no specific order. Some points are perhaps a repeat of what others have already said and the T-BHP review, nevertheless, here they are.
Overall, I hate that TML prefers to stay behind the curve in bringing much-needed features and then adds them to newer editions than mine. But the Harrier has still surprised me and my family mostly in a pleasant way. I am looking forward to holding on to this car for at least 5 years.
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BHPian loneagl09 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Did a 352km run from Satara to Lonavala. Free things of note:
Here's what BHPian MADMAX111 had to say about the matter:
How was the handling and ride comfort in ghats and plains??
BHPian loneagl09 replied:
Harrier's handling has typically rated great and my experience was no different. Mostly used the economy mode on the highway and City mode in the ghat section. The vehicle feels very planted even at higher speeds on turns. Body roll is well controlled. I can truly say I was less tired compared to a similar journey in my old i20.
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The updated version of the Tata Safari has been caught testing once again. Unlike the test mules seen earlier, this test car has the production-spec front bumper.
Like the Nexon facelift, the upcoming Safari will also receive a redesigned front fascia, with what appears to be an LED light bar. The front grille will be reprofiled and the headlamps will now be housed inside vertical pods on either side of the bumper.
The Safari facelift could also receive some cosmetic changes to the rear. It could get new LED taillights with an LED light bar and other modifications. The Tata Harrier is also expected to receive similar updates.
Inside, the Safari and Harrier are expected to get a larger 10.25-inch touchscreen infotainment system, a full-digital instrument cluster and a redesigned centre console with a new gearshift lever. The SUVs are also expected to get ADAS.
The updated Harrier and Safari are expected to carry forward the same 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine that makes 168 BHP and 350 Nm. The engine will be paired with either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic. The carmaker could also debut its new 1.5-litre turbo-petrol engine on the updated Harrier and Safari. This unit puts out 168 BHP and 280 Nm.
Source: Anvay Sheolikar via Rushlane
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BHPian IamGroot recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Recently I reclaimed my life, i.e., took ownership of Tata Safari XZA+ Adventure Persona Tropical Mist variant. I have followed the Tata Safari review thread on team-bhp from day one till 166 pages. It was a tough decision, especially Toyota Hycross coming in as last-minute option. More on the decision making and delivery experience in another thread. In this thread wanted to highlight something that I came across during a routine clean-up of my SUV interiors.
I had minor niggles post-delivery, engine check light coming on and going away after a long ride. The dreaded DPF regeneration issue, I guess. This in addition to the 5-6 attempts it takes to close the tail gate. During PDI I also saw water on last row. The sales team attributed this to their cleaning process.
Post a weekend drive to Mahabaleshwar, vehicle was up for an interior wipe down. Those red mud marks on light seats look bad. During wipe down I found a small piece of paper in a crevice between front passenger seat and right arm rest. A Quality control check list of sorts. I am not sure whether it belongs to my car or just a piece of trash from another car. It is for Harrier and Safari, going by the model H/S mentioned in the sheet and is from factory going by the stamps. Also, the tail gate issue I am facing is precisely one of the items on the QC sheet. It says OK to most items but not for the tail gate. Instead, it mentions a 6-digit number, could be defect ID.
I am curious to know what the sheet means, especially the "spec" column, and why only nine items are part of this sheet? Are these like known issues and they have a special check list to address these issues? Paradoxically If Tata has a special checklist of know quality issues, then they are doing an excellent job of making sure these issues are not passed-on to customer and then not so respectable job at assembly, since these issues should not be there in first place.
It also raises another question. The VIN of my car MAT123456PXA78912(Masked except for 10th and 12th character) interprets to Jan 2023. And if this piece of paper is indeed from my car them the timestamp of 15 Dec indicates it is not January 2023 manufactured car.
Thanks.
Here's what BHPian abirnale had to say on the matter:
Maybe - the check-sheet might just be prepared and printed on 15 Dec 22, used on whenever it was used thereafter? A PDI wont be such a short PDI - could be a part of one team’s check on assembly line that messed up and not finding right record instead of stopping it from going out of factory or enforcing redo, they chose to send it out and so you got it with tailgate issue?
The best could be to work with TaMo folks and ask them to verify: if any reliable source in TaMo can cross check your VIN, Defect remarks etc to be from factory floor or something from Dealer. If nothing else - just leave it here and drive car. These bugs in your head tend to become larger over period of time - don’t loose your peace of mind over this.
Here's what BHPian srh had to say on the matter:
This would most likely be an output from a previous inspections where this defect list would have been compiled. This checklist would then be populated during re-inspection after concerned workers confirm that issues are fixed.
Of as you say, it could be a special additional checklist to cover defects that have been observed in many vehicles produced.
The VIN number is stamped at a specific work station in the manufacturing process. So while this inspection maybe happened on 15th Dec 22, the vehicle reached the stamping work station in Jan-23.
Here's what BHPian condor had to say on the matter:
The date of inspection is not given any where in the remarks/observations/responses on that sheet.
There is a date on that sheet - but it is printed. Could be date when the checklist was printed.
(As practice, we put dates in the footer of important documents, often to track versions etc).There is no identifying info to say that this checklist is for your Safari.
Why only 9 items ? Cant expect one person doing the full QC of a car - it's better when split between a few checkers.
Here's what BHPian svsantosh had to say on the matter:
Having experience in leading Operations @ a mechanical engineering cum SPM equipment manufacturing company I can safely say that this the shoddiest piece of official document I have ever seen.
- Traceability - ZERO (IamGroot - this may very well be another cars paper left in your car glove box
- Branding - zero
- Document # - zero
- Version # - zero
I can go on, but my God, if this is the quality of document used at a QA/QC dept; God save them.
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According to a media report, Tata Motors is likely to debut the updated Harrier and Safari in October 2023, with the price announcement expected before Diwali.
The facelift versions of the Tata Harrier and Safari have already been spotted testing on the road. Both models are expected to get a redesigned front fascia inspired by the Harrier EV concept that was showcased at Auto Expo 2023. The SUVs could get an LED light bar up front with slim taillights at the rear, also connected by an LED light bar.
The 2023 Harrier and Safari are likely to get a few changes on the inside. Spy images have revealed a larger touchscreen infotainment system and a fully digital instrument cluster. We also got a glimpse of a new stubby gear lever on a Harrier Automatic test mule.
Tata is likely to retain the FCA-sourced 2.0-litre diesel engine. This motor develops 168 BHP and 350 Nm and will be paired with either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic transmission. Moreover, the carmaker could also introduce its new 1.5-litre turbo-petrol engine, which makes 168 BHP and 280 Nm.
Source: Autocar India
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A test mule of the Tata Harrier facelift has been spotted once again. The latest images also reveal the SUV’s revamped interior.
Just like the prototypes spotted earlier, this one too is heavily camouflaged. However, there is barely any camouflage hiding the new bits inside the cabin. While the overall design of the dashboard looks familiar, the test car is equipped with a larger touchscreen infotainment system and a fully-digital instrument cluster. Tata Motors has also made some changes to the centre console, which now has a stubby gearshift for the automatic transmission.
On the outside, the updated Harrier is expected to receive Harrier EV concept-inspired design changes. It could get a revised front grille with sleeker LED daytime running lights. This particular test vehicle, however, is equipped with circular dummy lights.
While the rear of the car looks fairly standard, the production version could get a reprofiled bumper and an LED light bar between the taillights.
The Harrier facelift is expected to carry forward the same 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine that makes 168 BHP and 350 Nm. The engine will be paired with either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic. The carmaker could also debut its new 1.5-litre turbo-petrol engine on the updated Harrier and Safari. This unit puts out 168 BHP and 280 Nm.
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BHPian loneagl09 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Just got the XZA PLUS OPTION delivered yesterday and would like to post initial impressions.
The most obvious comparison. But a few things steered me away:
Excellent driving, great safety across all variants and a premium experience but:
Steered clear because of all the horror stories on this forum. Also, no Skoda and Kia where I live. I did TD both the 1L and 1.5L Virtus and loved the drive. My brother has a Venue and remarked that the VW 1L turbo petrol seemed smoother and better than the Hyundai 1L turbo petrol. Don’t know how that works out. But the red interiors were not great to me. The red, especially, seemed garish, too bright. The AC also seemed underwhelming.
Looked too MUV-ish to me, plus the interiors failed to impress (personal opinion).
Have a friend’s relative who works in Nexa and he advised against getting one, as it was full of niggles and rattles. I did still go and take a look:
However, the underwhelming 3 pot review in this forum made me think about spending 20 lakh plus. Also personally, the exterior did not impress me. Maybe larger wheels would have helped.
I only mention this at the end because I ended up buying it. I actually TD it around the VW visit and the drive quality and new interiors still stood out to me after Virtus and Compass TDs.
I guess this is it.
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MG Hector
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Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
Enthusiasts can blast the Hector all they want, but the fact is, it is unbeatable as a spacious, comfortable, family cruiser with a softly sprung suspension. I have recommended the Hector to many people in my circle who were looking purely at a comfort-mobile and each of them is very happy with the purchase. MG also scores well on sales & service experiences.
It is however, not my kind of car. If I were buying an SUV in this segment, it would be the XUV700. If high running, then the practical Diesel AT. If the usage is on the lower side, then the fast & refined Petrol AT.
Here's what BHPian AtheK had to say on the matter:
Great comparison, and I eventually settled for facelift Hector. The enthusiast in me has taken a back seat as years have gone by, and my prime requirement in the car was for my 9 year old son to be comfortable on long drives. Secondary was to have a very good music system that I can listen to, when I put the car on cruise control at 110 on highway and have a good relaxed drive. Hector is slow of the block but once turbo kicks in it cruises silently at 110 with enough power on tap to make some quick overtakes. Hector checked both my requirements and wife loved the view and space in passenger seat as well. The worldly creatures like ventilated seats, ambient lights, electrnic boot and wireless CarPlay adds up to overall mood uplift. We took the car for a long 100 KM drive to see if my son was comfortable and he really had a good time in the car which sealed it. Need to zero down on the bling though as I personally don't like chrome at all, so a lot of that will be taken out.
For the enthusiast in me I have my bikes, I can have all the fun I want and no one to bother me every second to slow down.
All in all I echo GTO sentiment and he has put it perfectly this car is not for enthusiasts they need to look at XUV. I had also given XUV a long thought but 9-10 months of waiting was something I was not ready for and also deal with the niggles in the car, they still have issues with wireless android auto and CarPlay.
PS: One car which can now make entry to this list is Alcazar, now with a new turbo engine which puts in a very good power it can actually be a great choice. As a matter of fact I was thinking of going to take a test drive if new engine but got a message that my hector has been allocated so now will take delivery of hector next week.
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BHPian ashutoshb recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
My late father's Harrier (2019, Manual) just crossed 50,000 kms. With no major issues faced till now, we have been more than satisfied with it.
Ever since my father passed away, during the second wave of Covid, his Harrier has largely been unused. My mother uses it rarely, once or twice a month, to visit relatives. The driver does start it for a couple of minutes every week.
For her nearby runs, our humble Nano AMT is my mom's preferred car, which is easier to park and drive around on Noida streets.
My daily run is around 70 kms, Greater Noida <> Noida. Since my Kushaq (1.0 AT) had been munching miles at a very fast pace, I decided to give it a rest and use the Harrier for a while. I drove it for around 1500 kms, for my daily commute, which is 60% expressway and 40% in the city. And surprisingly, I got a pretty good fuel efficiency.
In a tank full, I managed to do 1000 KMs, comfortably. By comfortably, I mean, never did I use the Eco mode. I did use sport mode several times. What was constant, the cruising speed was 80-90 on the expressway and I changed gears around 1500-1700 rpm, always. And I always drove sedately when the engine was cold.
Using the same driving pattern, I consistently get a 900-950 kms range in my Kushaq.
In all, I am really pleased with the Harrier, but since it's a manual, I will now go back to my Kushaq.
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