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Old 5th August 2017, 20:39   #1696
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Had some time, so went over to the Jeep Showroom earlier today. They had 6 models on display and all colours except the Blue. Deliveries expected to start from 10th whereas bookings made today may have a waiting of 4-6 weeks for Diesel. Petrol (both manual and auto) would start Oct onwards.

The gleaming Red Longitude Optional variant on display. This gets the DRL+ Projectors.
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The glistening Black Limited variant.
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I was told by the friendly sales advisor that the Limited 4X4 Option is not available on Black (since the only other feature on this variant is the HID lamps). Would have been a good idea to get a grey/silver roofing for the Black

Few pics of the Sport variant. Note the regular headlights and absence of fog lamps.
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The Wheels across the variants - Sport, Longitude and Limited.

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There is a nifty placement of the VIN - visible through the windshield. Note the ugly windshield washers placed on the bonnet (an eyesore on an otherwise clean design).
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The non-LED tail lights on the lower variants. Pretty stylish inner elements I must say.
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The staff was very courteous and knowledgeable. Despite being told that I was keen only on the Diesel Auto, they showed around the vehicles and exhorted me to take a TD of the Manual to get a feel of the driving dynamics. Most of the TD experiences shared by fellow BHPians were evident in my TD as well. Pulls cleanly in all gears, smooth shifting, chunky steering is a delight, weighs up well with speed. Then the realization that there is a tiny element I would need to get used to if this joins my garage, while taking a U-turn, I non-nonchalantly flicked the right side stalk to activate the indicator and what happened was the wipers woke from their slumber and took a single swipe of the windscreen. Then I realized that this an American and it has its stalks reversed - right side for wipers and left side for indicators. Will need to keep that in mind

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Happened to visit the FCA showroom in Domlur, Bangalore today. I was greeted by a cheerful sales representative outside the showroom who offered to park my car. His other colleague was also busy directing the visitors to park their cars appropriately. Both of them looked excited by so many footfalls. Good start I thought, to see the guys welcome us.

However, the scene inside was quite different. Couldn't find a single sales rep who could help the visitors with the details around the car. They kept popping in an out of the area. The place was quite crowded as expected. Clearly the staff looked overwhelmed and at times surprised by the number of people around. Guess they are not used to seeing such crowd.

There was just one Red Longitude model on display which looked like getting mauled by the excited visitors. Had to stand in a queue near the driver's door just get into the car! Excitement was quite palpable. There was one Black wrangler and wine red Grand Cherokee SRT which were also attracting few eyeballs.

After some wait I managed to have a quick chat with the lady at the reception, who was busy hammering the keyboard to record the requests for test drives. She said that there no petrol on offer at the moment. It will be available in October at the earliest. All TD vehicles are Diesel ones. She also had no clue about when the Diesel AT would arrive. Got hold of the price list and sales brochure. Looking at the long queue I decided not go for the TD.

My impressions about the car which is Rs 20.68 lakhs on road Bangalore. This is just based on what I saw:

Likes:

-The car is quite a looker from the front.
-Build quality appeared solid.
-Good visibility from the front seat.
-All disc brakes.
-Liked the design of the MID.



Dislikes

- Fabric seats on a car that costs 20 big ones.
- Dummy buttons on the steering wheel was big eyesore, especially at this price point
- The space at the back is quite limited, given there is a substantial floor hump. Strictly for 4 adults.


Other Points:

1. The car looks quite unassuming from the rear. It blends in with the crowd. Doesn't have much of a road presence if viewed from the back. However, front view stands apart.

2. Clutch appeared quite light when pressed. Not sure how it feels while driving.

3. Steering felt nice to hold.

4. Plastic quality was ok.

5. Boot size appeared decent.

Performance, ride & handling aside, just purely going by the dimensions of the car and features available at this price point, which are key criteria for mass buyers, there may not be too many takers for this particular model. For other models may be Yes. I don't see too many Innova, XUV or even Creta buyers getting swayed towards Compass. May be I am wrong here but this my hunch. Of course, One TD can change all of that

But definitely Jeep Compass has managed to grab the attention of people. Whether it will translate into sales numbers, only time will tell.

Below are some pictures that i managed to click from my phone. Please excuse the quality of pics.
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A quick question

A, In the Sport version the Compass - comes with - Quad Halogen Lamps
My interpretation of the above is that - there is a separate bulb for Low & High Beam - which translates to that I can have both Low and High beams on simultaneously - like the old Palio or the current Linea

B, The Longitude Option & Limited - default come with - Bi Function Projector Halogen. Does this mean that

1. There is only one bulb instead of two
2. In which event - At any given point only the Low or High Beam is on !

C, The Limited Option comes only in Bi Xenon HID
Does this imply that the head lamps can be only in either Low or High beam at any point?

In the image below - what is the hatched / grilled surface next to the projector?
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In the image below - what is the hatched / grilled surface next to the projector?
Those are the 'Signature LED position lamps' in Jeep speak and do look cool when lit up.
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Does this imply that the head lamps can be only in either Low or High beam at any point?
A bi-xenon/'bi-function halogen' projector has a beam that covers both high and low beam patterns. The only thing that happens for low beam, is that a movable shutter in front of the bulb cuts off the top half of the beam effectively making it a low beam, and then moves out of the way when you need the full/high beam.

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In the image below - what is the hatched / grilled surface next to the projector?
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Those are LED DRLs, but can't see any pic showing them active on the Indian variant.

P.s.: Are you doing a Ph.D thesis on the Compass?
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Those are the 'Signature LED position lamps' in Jeep speak and do look cool when lit up.
Thank you @uday.ere
So what function do they serve and when do they come on? Are these equivalent to parking / corner lamps?

Also on the Bi Function Halongen/HID - At any given time - is it right to say that only Low Or High beam will be on?

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A bi-xenon/'bi-function halogen' projector has a beam that covers both high and low beam patterns. --------- and then moves out of the way when you need the full/high beam.
@Crazy_Eddy - thank you for the above - Does that mean - there is an option./switch - where in from the single nacelle/bulb/projector shown in the image - gives out both Low & High beam simultaneously - equivalent to the dual bulb halogen setup in the Sport Variant?

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Those are LED DRLs, but can't see any pic showing them active on the Indian variant.
I was under the impression that the reverse L was the LED DRL! As shown in the pic above your post
Incidentally that image is from the an indian compass - pic taken by @uday.ere earlier in the day today while he was visiting a showroom.
And the spec sheet does have a feature called - Signature LED Position Lamp.
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Just trying to get to know the Compass better and curious !!

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935 cars shipped to Dealerships last month
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The lack of 6 airbags in all but the diesel 4x4 version is my biggest gripe with the Compass. Even the 21+ lakhs petrol DCT is not having 6 airbags.

If at all I feel like upgrading from the Ecosport to the Compass which is a perfect upgrade imo albeit automatic, I will lose out on safety vs my Ecosport which is half the price!

This is one serious blunder from the product team.
Here presents the Ecosporter's dilemma.

The Ecopsort's natural upgrade should have been the Renegade. After spending 11L on the Ecosport 4 years ago, spending 15L on the upgarde seems logical but not 20+L. Especially since salaries have not moved much in the last few years.

But now that Jeep is tempting us with the Compass I am looking for ways to upgrade. As a Ecosport AT owner, I should be reaching for the Compass 1.4 AT, but (1) it is priced too far(22.5L) from the logical upgrade price of 15L and (2) without 6 airbags, it feels like a downgrade.

From 15L the most reachable for me is the 1.4 Sport manual, and it is available at a mouthwatering 17.2L on road in Kerala (which should be one of the lowest in country. The Sport diesel is 1.5L higher even though the ex-showroom price is just 50K higher, thanks to the higher road tax beyond 15L ex.

Waiting for reviews of the 1.4 Petrol.
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A friend of mine booked an Automatic Petrol Limited(O) over a Creta Petrol AT. It is expected mid October. No petrol test drives available as yet. At 22L on road Gurgaon it is quite pricey? I assumed it would be a few lakhs more than a Creta AT petrol. But 7L is quite a difference, about 50% more. He is going to evaluate the Innova Crysta, Tucson, Octavia in the meantime as they are all now within striking distance.
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Here presents the Ecosporter's dilemma.
OT but a little related since many EcoSport owners are commenting similarly on this thread.

Anyone who bought an EcoSport has no business upgrading. Your car is at the max 4 years old. Salary levels don't even come into the picture. You're just taking a massive hit on depreciation & buying another car that's going to depreciate like crazy (all 20+ lakh cars do). Depreciation will substantially slow down now, and the car ages well. All the more reason to hold onto your EcoSports.

Civic-sense, it doesn't make financial-sense .

Let's continue the discussion here (ARTICLE: YOUR 5 year old car : Keep, Upgrade or Swap?).

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The itch to upgrade happens but always better to hold on. Thinking of upcoming vehicles always helps

I am guilty of planning to add a Compass to existing Ecosport for my joint family. Can someone here please help me on the superiority of bi xenon over halogen projectors in Limited. Trying to choose between Limited and Limited O. Looking at petrol AT in black (not sure if dual tone is available in black). Lights seems the only difference that counts.

About to book, but of course final decision after petrol ARAI figures, test drive and Team BHP review only.

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OT but a little related since many EcoSport owners are commenting similarly on this thread.

Anyone who bought an EcoSport has no business upgrading. Your car is at the max 4 years old. Salary levels don't even come into the picture. You're just taking a massive hit on depreciation & buying another car that's going to depreciate like crazy (all 20+ lakh cars do). Depreciation will substantially slow down now, and the car ages well. All the more reason to hold onto your EcoSports.
True for those whose buying decisions come straight from their head, but then there are some whose heart wins over their head especially when its automobiles.
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Waiting for reviews of the 1.4 Petrol.
IMHO the 1.4 Petrol might not be as punchy & driveable as the diesel.
Checking reviews of the Renegade which uses FCAs 1.4L Multiair engine (which by the way won new engine of the year in 2009) the reviews are quiet positive when it comes to driveablity after hitting the sweet spot. Having said that, the kerb/laden weight of the renegade is lesser than that of the Compass, which will make an impact on driveablity. My bigger concern would be torque delivery at lower RPMs given the traffic situation in our country. Most turbo petrols do have some form of lag and even this engine + transmission combination seems to suffer from the same below 2000 RPM, which means a lot of revving to move from standstill for a few meters and just when the turbo spools, you hit the brakes and wait for that cab in front of you to finish cutting into the opposite lane. That also implies lower FE. Do check this owner review of the Renegade 4WD. Watch from 5:55 onwards and he does mention a mileage of 20 mpg, which translates to ~8.5 kmpl.


All said the owner does end the review saying that its not a boring car and its fun to drive when the Turbo kicks in At 18.5L OTR Bangalore, The 1.4L Compass doesnt even whisper VFM.

Edit: As mentioned by GTO, unless you are upgrading for the "luxury" component, your Ecosport should still be able to serve you for a few more years.

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Civic-sense, it doesn't make financial-sense .
To deter me from buying the Compass, you may have to shut down this thread. Anyway, I guess a reality check is in order.
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The itch to upgrade happens but always better to hold on. Thinking of upcoming vehicles always helps
There is nothing to look forward to. Kuga maybe, but the Compass is more desirable.
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True for those whose buying decisions come straight from their head, but then there are some whose heart wins over their head especially when its automobiles.
Who wouldn't want to have this beauty parked in front of his house?
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IMHO the 1.4 Petrol might not be as punchy & driveable as the diesel.
At 18.5L OTR Bangalore, The 1.4L Compass doesnt even whisper VFM.
17.2 OTR in Kerala.
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The Ecosport's warranty expires next month. Am a bit scared to keep a car beyond warranty.

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Here presents the Ecosporter's dilemma.

The Ecopsort's natural upgrade should have been the Renegade. After spending 11L on the Ecosport 4 years ago, spending 15L on the upgarde seems logical but not 20+L.
Wait for the Jeep Renegade. If overseas pricing is anything to go buy, Renegade will be 15-20% cheaper than Compass. So prices could start 12 L OTR. That would be a more logical upgrade for an Ecosporter......Also wait for reviews on the 1.5 L 3 cylinder Dragon that churns out 125 bhp in the new ecosport. Ford might have a winner on their hands

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Anyone who bought an EcoSport has no business upgrading. Your car is at the max 4 years old.
Civic-sense, it doesn't make financial-sense .
Let's continue the discussion here (ARTICLE: YOUR 5 year old car : Keep, Upgrade or Swap?).
Well said. Makes more sense to get the new Dragon based Ecosport or wait for the Jeep Renegade in 2018. A 2018 car will have a higher resale value as well

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True for those whose buying decisions come straight from their head, but then there are some whose heart wins over their head especially when its automobiles.
Agree. This discussion will be based on rationalist view of the world. There could be someone who is willing to pay a million dollars on a century old vehicle just for heart

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IMHO the 1.4 Petrol might not be as punchy & driveable as the diesel.
Checking reviews of the Renegade which uses FCAs 1.4L Multiair engine (which by the way won new engine of the year in 2009) the reviews are quiet positive when it comes to driveablity after hitting the sweet spot. Do check this owner review of the Renegade 4WD. Watch from 5:55 onwards and he does mention a mileage of 20 mpg, which translates to ~8.5 kmpl.
Would be curious to see the low speed city driveability of the 2.0 Multijet II engine. The 1.6 Multijet I engine in the S-cross has had owners complaining about city driveability being a problem. Wonder if that will be a bigger problem in a bigger Multijet

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To deter me from buying the Compass, you may have to shut down this thread. Anyway, I guess a reality check is in order.

There is nothing to look forward to. Kuga maybe, but the Compass is more desirable.
Or maybe the Renegade? Or a Compass that is pre-owned after a year or so of buying so that somebody else takes the hit on depreciation
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