[Athani]

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

you're again confusing between rooting and unlocking bootloader! Technically all manufacturers explicitly say that rooting will void warranty.

But practically, you can unroot a phone and they won't know. But you can't re-lock the bootloader na?

fastbook oem lock

Voila!

[Raccoon]

Any Navfree users can please tell me that the compass does work within the application. I installed it because the compass does not work with Gmaps on the Xperia Ray after the ICS update. Now I find it does not work with Navfree either! Or is there something I'm missing... some setting or something?

Really bugged with Sony.

[phamilyman]

Originally Posted by Samurai

How good is this Jelly Bean for Defy? I mean stability wise...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1768702

GO FOR IT!

My wife has the Defy and it runs the 10th August JB. Rock stable - I have not had to even face the possibility of sleeping in the balcony yet !

/ if it was chacha she had, the device would be in the trash by now.

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

you're again confusing between rooting and unlocking bootloader! Technically all manufacturers explicitly say that rooting will void warranty.

But practically, you can unroot a phone and they won't know. But you can't re-lock the bootloader na?

With Motorola u can do two things:
a. Reflash fresh SBF of stock ROM
b. Unroot (assuming you are on stock ROM).

Originally Posted by Athani

fastbook oem lock

Voila!

Not so quick, buster!

The reason HTC asks for your IMEI while unlocking is that the service centers now have your IMEI - thus, they will now discount all forms of warranty. Which is INCREDIBLY stupid, since all i have managed to do is to use a de-bloated stock ROM that has root. That should ideally have no bearing on my touch screen warranty. Like car mfrs denying engine warranty because you upsized tyres. LOL, like WTH!!

[Gandhi]

Originally Posted by phamilyman

The reason HTC asks for your IMEI while unlocking is that the service centers now have your IMEI - thus, they will now discount all forms of warranty. Which is INCREDIBLY stupid, since all i have managed to do is to use a de-bloated stock ROM that has root. That should ideally have no bearing on my touch screen warranty. Like car mfrs denying engine warranty because you upsized tyres. LOL, like WTH!!

Sony also takes your IMEI number when you unlock the bootloader. I did that and then I had to go to the service center to get the touchscreen replaced. So I relocked the bootloader and got the phone back to like it was before rooting.

They didn't check anything to figure out if the phone was rooted/unlocked earlier or not. And I got the entire touchscreen assembly of my phone replaced under warranty.

[Athani]

Originally Posted by phamilyman

...

Not so quick, buster!

The reason HTC asks for your IMEI while unlocking is that the service centers now have your IMEI - thus, they will now discount all forms of warranty. Which is INCREDIBLY stupid, since all i have managed to do is to use a de-bloated stock ROM that has root. That should ideally have no bearing on my touch screen warranty. Like car mfrs denying engine warranty because you upsized tyres. LOL, like WTH!!

I know all that. I was just responding to someone who said that bootloader cannot be locked back.

BTW, the manufacturer knows best how rooting affects different components of the phone, so I don't think it's incredibly stupid or even stupid that you loose the whole warranty. Anyway, warranty is a purely contractual matter. No point invoking logic. I mean, if the contract so provides, the warranty will be void if you operate the phone while being drunk ;-)

[kedar3223]

Guys i have a nextbook premium 8(http://www.nextbookusa.com/productde...p?product_id=8) which i got as a gift. I had decided to sell it and buy a decent android phone. Turns out it won't get much interms of resale. so i've decided to keep it. As im a first time android user, can you point me a link where i can read up on things live rooting, custom roms etc. Any custom roms you suggest. Is Ics possible on it? Lack of market place is a bummer.

[headers]

Originally Posted by phamilyman

..has the Defy and it runs the 10th August JB. Rock stable - I have not had to even face the possibility of sleeping in the balcony yet !

Gurujis: I upgraded my Defy from CM7.2 to JB 4.1.1 ParanoidAndroid V2.0 last night. All seems fine till now..but am unable to get the BT pair with my car [Fiat Punto EP]..

When the car reads out the pairing PIN, i am unable to enter that in the phone..

Any insights?

[ninjatalli]

^^ On a similar note, I am not able to connect my Samsung bluetooth WEP450 to my Micromax A100. The bluetooth connects effortlessly to my BB, as well as the A100 also pairs effortlessly to my BB or any other mobile phone.

And it's not working both ways; neither am I able to locate the instrument when I do a search on the mobile, nor does the BT discover the mobile when it's on a visible mode.

Any pointers?

[S_U_N]

@headers: It would be nice if you can post a review with some photos as well.

Do you get the keyboard popped up when the PIN screen is active?
Try changing the keyboard app and see.
Else this should be a bug.

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by Athani

fastbook oem lock

Voila!

Originally Posted by phamilyman

With Motorola u can do two things:
a. Reflash fresh SBF of stock ROM
b. Unroot (assuming you are on stock ROM).

Originally Posted by Athani

I know all that. I was just responding to someone who said that bootloader cannot be locked back.

Will someone please show me a link that boot-loader on ALL Motorola phones can be unlocked, and then re-locked, using Fastboot (not "book"). I'm keen to learn how to do that! None of the English-language forums I read through till now have any such guide/tutorial.

Because IIRC the entire discussion started from the fact that someone recommended that Motorola phones should not be bought as BL is locked and that's not a good thing

And then somewhere along the road, rooting got mixed up with locked BL and warranty was also invited to the party, thereby complicating an otherwise simple life of Motorola!

[S_U_N]

@nishant: This guide explains everything and is up-to-date.

[phamilyman]

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

Will someone please show me a link that boot-loader on ALL Motorola phones can be unlocked, and then re-locked, using Fastboot (not "book"). I'm keen to learn how to do that! None of the English-language forums I read through till now have any such guide/tutorial.

Because IIRC the entire discussion started from the fact that someone recommended that Motorola phones should not be bought as BL is locked and that's not a good thing

And then somewhere along the road, rooting got mixed up with locked BL and warranty was also invited to the party, thereby complicating an otherwise simple life of Motorola!

dada,
he is talking about HTC, who let you unlock the bootloader online. motorola doesnt let others do that.

headers man, not used paranoid android. normally what happens is that the BT often has 0000 or 1234 which the phone auto-pairs with.

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by S_U_N

@nishant: This guide explains everything and is up-to-date.

Which guide? Does Fastboot work successfully on Moto? I'm curious to see!

[S_U_N]

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

Which guide? Does Fastboot work successfully on Moto? I'm curious to see!

I am sorry, I missed the link in the last post.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1216982

It covers all the concepts as relevant to Defy. However, there is nothing about Fastboot in there.

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by S_U_N

I am sorry, I missed the link in the last post.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1216982

It covers all the concepts as relevant to Defy.

This I know! In fact my first stop even before I got the phone.

Originally Posted by S_U_N

However, there is nothing about Fastboot in there.

AFAIK, Fastboot solution does not work on Moto. I'm willing to be surprised though!

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