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![]() The Jimny 1.5L engine + 5 speed gearbox and overall engineering is not for on road but off road. A small diesel engine with turbo lag and weight plus the robustness of such a vehicle to go anywhere means there was a reason Suzuki stuck with K15 engine. I wouldn't want a diesel or a 5 door Jimny. Give me the old school K15 NA engine with a slow shifting 4 speed AT for my daily commute as well as go anywhere requirement. | |
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The point is, the petrol can do all of what you posted video links of, but for most of us, it will be our everyday car or maybe our only car, we will drive around for road trips in this, go to work in this, with that brick like aerodynamics, the 138 NM of torque at 4400 rpm, a lot of revving will be required on the normal highways while overtaking etc to get some meaningful speed out of it, leading to dismissal mileage. Look at the video below. At 120-130, he was getting 11 liters per 100 kilometers on the MID. That is less than 10 per liter on the highway for a car which is matchbox sized. At 100 kilometers/hr his rpm was 4000. I mean, I would never drive something like this for road trips. Look at the engine noise at 100-120. Just for reference, my Swift D does 100 kmph at around 2300-2400 rpm, that is what I mean by having a diesel which will give it long legs and low end torque. Quote:
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![]() I would never buy a 2 door Jimny with a petrol and never with a 4 speed AT even in a Diesel. Just my opinion Last edited by humyum : 25th April 2020 at 11:24. | |||
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I disagree with your opinion, The Jimny has never been marketed or sold as a mile muncher, an aesthetic thing on wheels or something which renders dollops of comfort. It is a proper off road automobile and someone making a conscious decision to put their money into such a vehicle would use it as such. There are countless other vehicles which can eat up miles and also do the occasional traverse over dilapidated roads or winding hills. Buying a Jimny and expecting it to transform it into an aerodynamic beast is too much to ask for. The Jimny will be bought and projected (through Nexa) as a lifestyle vehicle for anyone who can afford it. It doesn't fit into an everyday car role and disappointments for someone as garnered post the buy will solely be an onus of the bad decision made. | |
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Your swift does 100 kmph @ lower rpm cause it does not need to climb rocks and obstacles and go off road. If you give the Jimny tall gear ratios, it's as good as useless off road. The whole point is to have low end torque and short gearing to climb where no SWift can even imagine going. Quote:
![]() It's for those who want a recreational vehicle with off road capability. Or lifestyle vehicle in city. Not as a comfortable family car. If the requirement would be to have a diesel engine, with taller gearing, stiffer suspension and better on road manners. That's not a Jimny then. Why would any manufacturer sacrifice dynamics, steering, gearing and on road behaviour that too knowingly? Simple. Because the car is designed, engineered and developed for a purpose. If you dilute the off road prowess then it is not a Jimny. The Gypsy was similar. That's why I said if you want better dynamics, 5 doors and diesel, the Brezza was the choice cause then you also don't need 4WD. Last edited by Vid6639 : 25th April 2020 at 17:49. | ||
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| ![]() 50 years of the Suzuki Jimny https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...i-jimny-417018 source : Autocar India |
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BANNED | ![]() TUV300 could have been India's answer to Jimny. Mahindra really blew an opportunity. They could have made a 3-door TUV with proper 4-pot engine, proper AT and beefier tyres. Don't they follow international news how Jimny was making waves in global markets? With those old-school ruler straight lines, high-GC, sub-4 metre length, spare-wheel on the back, TUV is the closest to Jimny in looks than any other car in India is. Sure, it would have been a niche car but there would have been many takers for such cars. More so because of lower price tag it would have come at, being all domestic. |
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Which means that it is a short geared vehicle. Which in turn means that the gearing is oriented to torque in the low end more that the top end, which in turn means better off-road performance. | |
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Though I love 3 doors, a 3 door version of the TUV is a pipe dream, Mahindra will direct you towards the Thar. But yes. They can plonk in the 2.2 from the TUV+, or even a detuned version of the on-development 2.0l diesel, plonk in the 4X4 system, upgrade it to crash test levels, and you would have a Jimny rival in no time. But Mahindra won't do that. Partially, cause of the tax benefits the TUV would loose with a >1.5l engine and mostly to help the Thar, which would be more profitable. | |
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| ![]() Nice to know that Maruti is seriously considering the Jimny for India. 5 door automatic with 4x4 AT would be fantastic. That should satiate my 4x4 desire without having to go big on size just for AT. Quote:
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They should launch both 3-door as well as 5-door. The more, the merrier. They should take a leaf out of koreans' books. Just as there is a Creta and Seltos for everyone, from 9.xx to 17.xx rupees ex-showroom. Students, singles, empty nesters, childless couple may look at 3-door and the rest at 5-door. Similarly, a proper AT from day one. They must broaden the range and consequent appeal. |
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| ![]() I don’t know, I’m not sure if they’ll launch the 3 door here. Hyundai exported the i20 coupe for years from India but never launched it here. Dealers won’t order it, so the company doesn’t bother launching it is my guess. I’d love the see the 3 door here, personally. I’m falling in love with the Jimny, the 3 door in particular but I don’t see a lot of takers here. But if Mahindra can make a business case for a 3 door Thar, I’m sure Maruti can. ![]() |
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| ![]() I guess there is hardly any market for a 5-door Jimny here. From what I know of it, it won't be a good long distance tourer (unless launched with a powerful diesel) or a comfortable people mover. I'd much rather buy an Ertiga for that! The Jimny pulls heart strings of enthusiasts, and they would prefer a 3-door for sure, to serve as a convenient city ride and those trail drives. |
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| ![]() I cannot help comparing the 5 door version to the Force Trax. It looks all utilitarian with that boxy 5 door design! On the contrary, the 3 door version looks so masculine and would stand out in the ground. It’s probably what our ancestors felt when they first saw the Gypsy back in ‘86! ![]() The worst part is that there is a major difference in the wheelbase of the 5 door and 3 door versions, so even an aftermarket conversion would make things out of proportion. MS should stop thinking about making everything practical or family use, especially for a product that was never intended to. :( |
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Guys Guys, I can understand all of you as off-roading fans what you want. What as a Maruti fan (who wonders what will happen to him if he had to buy a Non-maruti car because of decades of Maruti's in our house) wants something like a Thar from a Maruti and a Diesel Jimny looks like a close contender for that. Anyway, that is just my product requirement and from the looks of it, it will never be met. So ![]() | |||
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