[fiestarry]

What price should I expect for my well maintained Nov 2008 , Ford Fiesta S
85000 km
KA 01 registered. Located in Bangalore.

[KunalMadaan]

Originally Posted by vikasshu

Hi Friends, post feedback from the community and checking prices online through ‘Buy Used Car’ sections of some portals plus portal recommended above by esteemed member, I booked an appointment with CarDekho for physical evaluation of my car. It was a very detailed check by their guy. The mechanic post check mentioned that my car is in very good condition. Later in the evening I got a quote from CarDekho with INR 6 Lakh as what they can give to me. It was way beyond what I observed on multiple portals and my expectations. The reason they are citing for low price is the Color of my car - Molten red.

My question to all of you is whether Color can impact price so much in used car market?? What should be my next step for getting a better price?

Any feedback or thoughts are most welcome.

Thanks

A car's color may impact it's resale value. A common color(white, silver, black) usually is more demanded and hence more resale value. However, I could be an interested buyer for your Scorpio if you could share your contact details. I may not be able to PM you.

[Latheesh]

Need help!

Car: Honda City
Year: 2017 (2018 Jan Registered)
ODO: 50000
Variant: ZX CVT Petrol
Transmission: Automatic
No.of owners: 1
Location: Kerala
Condition: Looks excellent in pictures (Insurance renewed, new battery)

Asking Price: 10.35 Lakhs (Came down to 10.10 Lakhs)

What is the fair price for it?

[ChoosetoCruze]

Originally Posted by Latheesh

Asking Price: 10.35 Lakhs (Came down to 10.10 Lakhs)

What is the fair price for it?

Use the excuse of buying 5 new tyres to drive the price below 10L. Assuming the car is checked by a trusted mechanic/ASC and there aren’t any issues with the engine/CVT. Browse through the service history to verify the engine oil & CVT fluid has been changed on schedule.

Is this the same car which originally started out at 12L asking price?

[Latheesh]

Originally Posted by ChoosetoCruze

Is this the same car which originally started out at 12L asking price?

Thanks. I offered 9.6L and owner did not respond. This is a different one.

[NiXTriX2004]

Originally Posted by fiestarry

What price should I expect for my well maintained Nov 2008 , Ford Fiesta S
85000 km
KA 01 registered. Located in Bangalore.

I sold my KA01 registered Fiesta 1.6 S 2008 run 90000kms for 2.1Lakhs in October.

[ramnaresh_2000]

What should be a decent price for 2018 Oct'18 manufactured manual Polo?

Variant: Highline Plus
Odo: 30,000 kms
Color: Blue
Insurance: Zero Dep till Oct'21
Tyres: 60% life left
No dents
Minor scratches on bumper
Fuel: Diesel

The seat covers condition is bad, needs replacing. I am guessing odo is tampered based on the condition of seat covers or the 1st owner maybe very bad at cleaning and maintenance (I am OCD when it comes to cars). I am yet to get it checked at Volkswagen service center. Vahan portal states Oct'18 manufactured and Nov'18 registered.

Asking price from dealer before negotiations is 7.25 lakhs.

[da_lowrider]

Hello All,

What should be the appropriate price of a single owner 2015 October manufactured Honda CR-V that has run 72,000 kms

Variant: 2.0 Auto
Odo: 72,000 kms
Color: Maroon
Insurance: Zero Dep till Dec'20
Tyres: new
No dents
Minor scratches on bonnet
Fuel: petrol
Asking price: 13.75L

[SneakyFunk]

What should be the appropriate price of a single owner May 2017 manufactured Tata Tiago XZ registered in Pune.

Variant: Petrol XZ
Odo: 23000
Insurance: Valid till April 2021
Tyres: Original
No dents or scratches
Fuel: petrol
Asking price: 4.5L

Many thanks.

[Parambir]

Hello friends
I am stationed in Delhi temporarily and looking for a small Petrol car auto/manual for 2 years stay in Delhi after which I plan to dispose it off.
Generally homed on to one Datsun Redi Go 2018 AMT done about 10K and 1st owner. Car is clean and runs well. He can give for 2.8. Is it a good buy or not.
I have noticed a large number of Kwids too being sold off after 2 to 4 yrs use. Are they worth it?

Are they worth it?

Thanks

[hserus]

Definitely worth it. Most small cars get sold off at that 2-4 year mark anyway.

Originally Posted by Parambir

Hello friends
I am stationed in Delhi temporarily and looking for a small Petrol car auto/manual for 2 years stay in Delhi after which I plan to dispose it off.
Generally homed on to one Datsun Redi Go 2018 AMT done about 10K and 1st owner. Car is clean and runs well. He can give for 2.8. Is it a good buy or not.
I have noticed a large number of Kwids too being sold off after 2 to 4 yrs use. Are they worth it?

[ChoosetoCruze]

Originally Posted by ramnaresh_2000

What should be a decent price for 2018 Oct'18 manufactured manual Polo?

Verifying the mileage should be an easy task with anybody with a good scan tool or visiting a trusted ASC. If it is genuine though, use the blemishes on the interior & exterior to drive down the price.

The price could use a further trimming, although since it’s a dealer, you’ll always have to pay a premium. The manual diesel is way better than the junk DSG petrol option.

Get it checked thoroughly by an honest mechanic/ASC before you buy it.

Originally Posted by da_lowrider

What should be the appropriate price of a single owner 2015 October manufactured Honda CR-V that has run 72,000 kms

I’d get it for around ~12L if able, after a trusted mechanic/ASC checked it thoroughly, before purchase.

That engine/gearbox combo is pretty much bulletproof (if it was taken care of, with regular fluid changes).

Price around for a new battery & getting all scratches/dents removed & deduct that amount from your offer.

Originally Posted by SneakyFunk

What should be the appropriate price of a single owner May 2017 manufactured Tata Tiago XZ registered in Pune.

I wouldn’t pay more than 4L (if it was in excellent condition).

As always, get it checked thoroughly by a trusted mechanic/ASC before you buy it.

You’re looking at the expense of 4 new tyres & a battery soon. Deduct that price from your offer.

[skarthikeyan]

Originally Posted by ChoosetoCruze

You’re between a rock & a hard place, thanks to the used car mafia in Bangalore.

Do you feel the car is worth 7.8L? If yes, pull the trigger. If not, keep looking. Never rush a used car purchase unless you’re urgently in need of a vehicle. You’ll have to make that decision.

Thanks @ChoosetoCruze, you've saved me about 60K. I got the vehicle on 22-Nov for Rs. 7.25L, down from the previous rate of Rs. 7.84L, which was again down from the original listed price of Rs. 8.56L. I owe you a dinner whenever you're in BLR or I visit Goa Your mention of the BLR used car mafia meant I got self-righteous and enraged and was able to bargain better.

The back n forth went like this(dates are approximate):

Jun-2020: Original price listed Rs. 8.56L
Oct-2020: Spinny reduced it to Rs. 7.84L due to Covid and the 4-5 months of this vehicle not seeing any movement
3rd week of Oct-2020: I test drive and find the vehicle good. I also send it to a FNG and they give a green light. Spinny thinks they've got me hooked since I've spent 2.9K with a FNG to check out this vehicle. When I ask for their best price, Spinny gives Rs. 7.84L as the best and aren't coming down.
4th week of Oct-2020: I quote Rs 6.5L as the best I can offer, citing the vehicle not moving off their hands, 2021 so near, it's a gas guzzler, I'll be the 3rd owner etc.
1st week of Nov-2020: After 2 weeks, I up my quote to Rs. 7L and say that's the last price.
18-Nov-2020: I get my Rs. 10K advance back to my bank account. This probably was the trigger that made the dealer realize they're about to lose me. I guess I should've negotiated the price before investing in checking the vehicle in a FNG. This might've made the cycle shorter, but it also means I might've negotiated a price and post the FNG check, I might have to negotiate down further again, if anything needs more work or investment. I was trying to avoid 2 rounds of negotiation, but I think this is the better tactic and the 2nd round post FNG check mightn't be needed 9/10 times.
18-Nov-2020: After about 10 days, Spinny comes down to Rs. 7.25L.

I asked for renewing the insurance(comprehensive) as part of this Rs. 7.25L and they agreed. I tried asking for a basic service(engine oil, wash, all fluids top-up) but they didn't agree.


As per OBV, the highest price for a 2013 2nd owner Accord AT was Rs. 6.91L, so I felt Rs. 7.25L with insurance isn't a bad deal and I closed it out on 22-Nov.

I also told them I'll pick my own insurance from this Rs 7.25L, but they didn't allow that. But I could bargain and select my pick amongst the options/providers Spinny's insurance vendor provided. The insurance premium itself was Rs 22Kish with RSA etc. I would've got the same coverage in Acko for about Rs 15-17K, so Spinny wasted 5K, but such are the ways of the world! Or maybe they might've gotten it for less than Rs 15K as a bulk deal with their vendor.

Over the last month, I've done a basic servicing(all oil, fluids topped up) for about Rs. 11K at a FNG. I've also driven the vehicle for about 500kms. I've also taken it to Honda A.S.S for a basic service and didn't get much confidence from their response. I'll put up a separate thread for this car!

Likes:

1. Car is smooth and super silent - due to good insulation and also relative smoother/silent engine compared to the Corolla's engine
2. Paddle shifter/Cruise control with the TC AT means I'm more relaxed and feel less urge to get out of traffic or reach the destination.
3. Powered driver seat with lumbar, thigh support, back recline angle means I find the driving position super comfortable, except for one niggle(see below)
4. The car pulls in a relaxed manner till 3K RPM, it barely runs at 1700 to 2200 RPM for 80-100kmph speeds, depending on the no.of passengers and incline of the road. Once you push it to 3K RPMs, VTEC then kicks in and engine surges to 6.5K+ smoothly and rapidly and you need lots fo empty road to feel it and reach 140K+ speeds. I've done it only once and I don't think it's easy to feel the VTEC kick often. Guess the engine's too good for the roads and traffic conditions I've driven in so far.
5. Low dashboard height - this means my wife can see the road better and is confident she can also drive it on highways or main roads of BLR. I can see the bonnet, at least most of it, so the length, width of the vehicle isn't a big deal, I've driven it in narrow lanes, bad roads etc without major problems.
6. Better suspension, stability - the car feels more planted and handles undulations, pot holes better than the Corolla. I think the lower GC and the multi-link rear suspension are the main reasons for this. You hear the thud of the worst of the suspension joints or pot holes, but don't feel it in the seats. Corolla wasn't this good, period.
7. Better steering - the steering is direct, fast compared to the Corolla, that means I can drive with more confidence in corners and also when I change lanes. Not that the Corolla was bad, but the Accord is much better here. It also weighs up decently at highway speeds as well. Only irritant is, it tends to tighten up in certain cases at crawling speeds, particularly if I'm moving through bad roads or climbing up a ramp etc. Not too tight, just a tad bit.

Dislikes:

1. The low GC means I've scraped it twice, once in a single lane district highway and another time where two roads joined inside BLR city limits and it had a steep incline/decline at the junction. Maybe I can move to a wider tyre and get some extra GC and also put in some suspension buffer? However, I've gotten the confidence I can travel to most any place now, just like I used to do with my Altis, so I now have to decide if I retain my Altis or service it well once more and then list it for sale. The fill it, shut it reliability of the Altis means, I'm wary to let it go, but it doesn't make sense to retain 2 cars with my low usage and my wife's not going to feel comfortable with the Altis, it's dashboard is too tall for her to feel confident and she wouldn't drive a manual transmission in BLR.
2. Mileage isn't great. I got 11.27 km/l for a ride to the top of Nandi hill and back to my apartment, over 130 km. The traffic was medium to heavy, but I was able to use the paddle to do engine braking 8/10 times and only 2/10 I had to use the brake and I was able to set the cruise at 90kmph for certain stretches. However, for a BLR city limits trip of 56 km to and fro, I got about 6.25 km/l. But this was known to me and I'm ok with it. I'll drive about 5000km per year max and more likely lesser due to Covid. So my fuel bill would be around Rs 50K with an Accord and about Rs 35K with my Altis, not a big difference. However, I get AT(TC), Paddle shifts, Sunroof(not used much so far, but my son loves it), Cruise control, 6 airbags vs 2 in my Altis, VSC, Traction Control and much better brakes as well.
3. The car attracts more attention than an Altis. You can argue if the Altis ever attracts attention from anyone or even the owners?. It's low slung, long and sleek, some don't like it, some like it, but attention, it sure does get. I prefer an anonymous or understated car, but I guess it is what it is.
4. The rearview camera and/or the display is very dark/dull and this means I can't rely on it fully when reversing. The video is so dark and dull, I can't make out much, neither during the day nor during the night or indoor parking. It's not clear if it's the camera or the display or both at fault. However, the rear parking sensor and the side parking sensor(yes, the car has 2 side sensors, one or each front fender near the front doors) are enough for me to park so far.
5. The rear view mirror isn't auto-dimming and hence it glares big time during highway night rides. It's an irritant, but I can live with it for now. I'm looking at 70mai or similar to get a auto-dimming mirror powered by a night vision rear camera and kill 2 birds(get a better rear view camera and an auto-dimming or non-glaring rear view mirror) in one stone.

Misc:

Based on my test drive experience with 2015+ Corolla Altis VL models, the paddle shifters on Corolla Altis VL's work even better, they apply a bigger engine braking force in 1st/2nd gear or equivalent, given it's a CVT. On the Accord, the engine brakes well when you downshift using paddles from 5th to 4th or 3rd if you need to reach 60kmph or thereabouts. However, to reduce it further to 20-30kmph, you need to bring it to 1st gear; the 3rd to 2nd gear doesn't apply much engine braking. On the Accord, the paddle shifter also takes half a second extra to kick in. On the Corolla, moving to the 3rd or 2nd brakes better, probably due to the smaller engine or because the CVT is instantaneous. But I've learned to adapt to this by now, so it's a concern anymore. I'm happy I use brakes 1/10th as I used to do previously, since changing gears on a manual Altis was tiresome with the clutch/gear lever related effort.

Mods: Sorry for the long post and also for going a bit OT, please move to a new post if necessary.

[ChoosetoCruze]

Originally Posted by skarthikeyan

Thanks @ChoosetoCruze, you've saved me about 60K. I got the vehicle on 22-Nov for Rs. 7.25L, down from the previous rate of Rs. 7.84L, which was again down from the original listed price of Rs. 8.56L. I owe you a dinner whenever you're in BLR or I visit Goa

Congratulations!!!

I’m extremely happy that you found the car you were looking for, at the price which you commanded. Your patience has paid off!

You don’t owe me anything mate, I’m just glad to help out with any advice someone may need with a car purchase. At the end of the day, you picked the right car, bargained or it and followed the golden rules of a used car purchase. For that, you deserve a pat on the back for earning yourself what is basically a year of free fuel bills + a good service to get the car running like clockwork, again.

For the dark back-up camera display, is there a setting to increase the brightness of the display? I had faced this in my sister’s 2018 Jazz, when I drove it for the first time, and it took me 2 minutes to figure out the brightness needed increasing & then it was all good.

The 70mai should be able to kill both birds with one stone, indeed.

The rest of what you’ve described are basically classic Honda traits. After all, you’ve driving a proper Honda vehicle (not a built to cost model).

With your low running, the Accord will last you probably as long as your Corolla would. If you have the space for 2 cars, I’d hold onto both (in case you need a 2nd car in future). But again, that’s for you to decide.

I look forward to your ownership thread and wish you lots of joy & memories with your new acquisition.

[ChoosetoCruze]

Originally Posted by ash22

I'm aware of Innova's reliability. Since the usage is going to be less and exclusive on highways, Is it advisable to go with older model innovas with those high miles.

Only & ONLY AFTER a trusted mechanic/ASC thoroughly checks out the vehicle and gives it a clean bill of health. Realise 5L is practically nothing, so don’t expect to use the vehicle for 20,000 kms every year & expect it to run without any problems (even a Toyota).

However, since you expect only low usage & on the highway mostly, the Innova may hold up well if the previous owner/s has taken good care of it & the engine is still healthy.

Again, don’t even think about it if the engine requires any serious work or something major is damaged.