Swift VDi ownership: A Running report

TNAWAYAJ · 28th February 2008, 14:05

Hi Guys,

I own a May 2007 Swift LDi, and have completed a little less than 10k km so far. Recently I have observed a strange humming sound when I am in stop-and-go traffic. The sound can be heard whenever I have my foot on the clutch while in 1st gear, and disappears once the clutch is released completely. Is this a sign of clutch wear-and-tear? Since my car is still covered under warranty, can I get this replaced at my next scheduled service at 10k km? Have any of you had a similar experience?

Thanks a tonne!

trrk · 28th February 2008, 15:57

Hi nikunj_cal,

> since I did not go for the 5th alloy , the only way of Tyre Rotation in my case > I think will be taking out the uni-directional tyres from the alloys and refitting > them !

Uni directional tyres are meant to be on specific sides and best will be to switch front and rear, if you are keen about tyre rotation.

kuttapan · 28th February 2008, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNAWAYAJ

Hi Guys,

I own a May 2007 Swift LDi, and have completed a little less than 10k km so far. Recently I have observed a strange humming sound when I am in stop-and-go traffic. The sound can be heard whenever I have my foot on the clutch while in 1st gear, and disappears once the clutch is released completely. Is this a sign of clutch wear-and-tear? Since my car is still covered under warranty, can I get this replaced at my next scheduled service at 10k km? Have any of you had a similar experience?

Thanks a tonne!

I have completed 15000 kms, mine is a Vdi ABS and I started noticing this sound a week back. Not regular though. Will get it checked soon.

ram_hyundai · 28th February 2008, 19:37

Clutch is not covered under waranty.But you can try for a good will waranty which is the descretion of the service manager.He would have to send a report to MSIL for it.But are you sure the sound is due to the clutch.
ram

blorebuddy · 28th February 2008, 19:55

@ TNAWAYAJ & Kuttapan,
Are you referring to a hissing (to be precise?) sound? Whenever I start to move from halt in the first gear just for few seconds while just starting to release clutch. Once I release it goes away. I started getting this around 5000 Kms

Checked with my service advisor, he told nothing to worry. As it is a hydraulic clutch the hissing comes is the answer. I left it as it is no harm. It is 10100 kms now.

TNAWAYAJ · 29th February 2008, 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by blorebuddy

@ TNAWAYAJ & Kuttapan,
Are you referring to a hissing (to be precise?) sound? Whenever I start to move from halt in the first gear just for few seconds while just starting to release clutch. Once I release it goes away. I started getting this around 5000 Kms

Checked with my service advisor, he told nothing to worry. As it is a hydraulic clutch the hissing comes is the answer. I left it as it is no harm. It is 10100 kms now.

Hello blorebuddy!
Actually it is more of a humming sound, and not so much of hissing. Will get it attended to and post a reply soon. Thanks for your replies!

jaibir · 29th February 2008, 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

Clutch is not covered under waranty.

does MSIL's warranty not cover the clutch in any of their cars or only on the Swift D? in either case it seems quite shady - clutch assembly is by no means a meaningless add on which can be excluded from the warranty without any worries

Thad E Ginathom · 29th February 2008, 11:11

Trouble is --- it's a 'consumable', and many drivers do consume their clutches by the way they drive; many of us have bad habits, and, although I haven't worn out a clutch yet, I don't exclude my own.

kuttapan · 2nd March 2008, 00:24

True - for a manufacturer, it does not make financial sense to offer warranty on clutch, as many of us(Indians) abuse the clutch, partly due to traffic conditions also.

That said, the service personnel should be smart enough to detect and admit genuine manufacturing/quality issues and honour them under warranty. Goodwill or otherwise.

Thad E Ginathom · 2nd March 2008, 14:20

Indeed! There was a post here, not so long ago, of a guy having so much trouble with the clutch, whilst having had none with other cars, that it could only have been a manufacturer's fault.

jyobeb · 2nd March 2008, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by blorebuddy

@ TNAWAYAJ & Kuttapan,
Are you referring to a hissing (to be precise?) sound? Whenever I start to move from halt in the first gear just for few seconds while just starting to release clutch. Once I release it goes away. I started getting this around 5000 Kms

Checked with my service advisor, he told nothing to worry. As it is a hydraulic clutch the hissing comes is the answer. I left it as it is no harm. It is 10100 kms now.

The hissing sound is from the clutch release bearing and has nothing to do with hydraulics.

nikunj_cal · 2nd March 2008, 18:16

Just went for wheel balancing and alignment, added weights in the range of 40-51 grams for each of my four alloys . I also rotated my wheels, since i have only four alloys with directional venturas, he just shifted the back tyre to the front of the same side of the car.Simple and effective.

@trrk - So no need to take out the tyres .

When i told him that I was maintaining 34psi in the front and 32psi in the rear he immediately told his men to reduce all of them to 30psi. I questioned him why , he said that the venturas should have max to max 32psi and 30 psi is optimum for all four wheels. He also said that thicker wheels with more air would mean more vibration and a bumpy ride . This increases rattles as well as ride quality really goes down .

Also went for wheel alignment , I was shocked to see the car alignment was really off a thing which is known as "toe in". I hope i have the spelling right. After the adjustments when i drove the car i immediately the ride was soooo much smoother because of the reduced psi I guess.Handling had improved a bit and the car felt lighter while taking turns!!

On my way to the shop some F****ER scraped the rear arch of my car . He was driving a getz prime. Waxpol to the rescue and voila all that remained was a small dent with a cut on top . All the Maroon colour had come off( Getz colour was maroon). Looking at the damage i could estimate that the guy did more damage to his car than he did to mine. Oh well shrug off and move on , I guess ! My car is geeting hit every 15 days so i guess I will wait for all the dents and scratched and then get the body work done !

Thad E Ginathom · 2nd March 2008, 19:50

some F****ER scraped the rear arch of my car too. It was me, cutting a U turn too tight and catching on the meridian.

I'm afraid my not-yet-one swift is very far from being pristine already.

Jaggu · 3rd March 2008, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikunj_cal

When i told him that I was maintaining 34psi in the front and 32psi in the rear he immediately told his men to reduce all of them to 30psi. I questioned him why , he said that the venturas should have max to max 32psi and 30 psi is optimum for all four wheels. He also said that thicker wheels with more air would mean more vibration and a bumpy ride . This increases rattles as well as ride quality really goes down .

Hope he considered its a diesel car, heavier front end

My 2 cents, 99% of tyre wallahs dont know the details. With 30 psi be careful while landing on pot holes at high speed.

Yes the vibration and rattle will be less, which apart from being an obvious fact, should NOT be the ONLY reason to reduce Psi.

I use this Psi, based on the rough road condition, careless way i end up in those pot holes and mileage in mind.

cheers
Jaggu

abhilash_iv · 3rd March 2008, 11:28

Even I was advised by the Tyre guys to have 30 psi all around for my Potanza GIII. At first I didnt oblige and put 33 in front and 31 in the back. Later I found that the ride is really smooth with 30 psi all around and now is sticking on to it. Mileage slightly decreased after making 30s.

28th February 2008, 14:05	#661
TNAWAYAJ BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 81 Thanked: 126 Times	Hi Guys, I own a May 2007 Swift LDi, and have completed a little less than 10k km so far. Recently I have observed a strange humming sound when I am in stop-and-go traffic. The sound can be heard whenever I have my foot on the clutch while in 1st gear, and disappears once the clutch is released completely. Is this a sign of clutch wear-and-tear? Since my car is still covered under warranty, can I get this replaced at my next scheduled service at 10k km? Have any of you had a similar experience? Thanks a tonne!
	() Thanks

28th February 2008, 15:57	#662
trrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 2,114 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	Hi nikunj_cal, > since I did not go for the 5th alloy , the only way of Tyre Rotation in my case > I think will be taking out the uni-directional tyres from the alloys and refitting > them ! Uni directional tyres are meant to be on specific sides and best will be to switch front and rear, if you are keen about tyre rotation.
	() Thanks

28th February 2008, 19:37	#664
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Clutch is not covered under waranty.But you can try for a good will waranty which is the descretion of the service manager.He would have to send a report to MSIL for it.But are you sure the sound is due to the clutch. ram
	() Thanks

28th February 2008, 19:55	#665
blorebuddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 594 Thanked: 257 Times	@ TNAWAYAJ & Kuttapan, Are you referring to a hissing (to be precise?) sound? Whenever I start to move from halt in the first gear just for few seconds while just starting to release clutch. Once I release it goes away. I started getting this around 5000 Kms Checked with my service advisor, he told nothing to worry. As it is a hydraulic clutch the hissing comes is the answer. I left it as it is no harm. It is 10100 kms now.
	() Thanks

29th February 2008, 11:11	#668
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,005 Thanked: 26,445 Times	Trouble is --- it's a 'consumable', and many drivers do consume their clutches by the way they drive; many of us have bad habits, and, although I haven't worn out a clutch yet, I don't exclude my own.
	() Thanks

2nd March 2008, 00:24	#669
kuttapan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	True - for a manufacturer, it does not make financial sense to offer warranty on clutch, as many of us(Indians) abuse the clutch, partly due to traffic conditions also. That said, the service personnel should be smart enough to detect and admit genuine manufacturing/quality issues and honour them under warranty. Goodwill or otherwise.
	() Thanks

2nd March 2008, 14:20	#670
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,005 Thanked: 26,445 Times	Indeed! There was a post here, not so long ago, of a guy having so much trouble with the clutch, whilst having had none with other cars, that it could only have been a manufacturer's fault.
	() Thanks

2nd March 2008, 18:16	#672
nikunj_cal BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 450 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Just went for wheel balancing and alignment, added weights in the range of 40-51 grams for each of my four alloys . I also rotated my wheels, since i have only four alloys with directional venturas, he just shifted the back tyre to the front of the same side of the car.Simple and effective. @trrk - So no need to take out the tyres . When i told him that I was maintaining 34psi in the front and 32psi in the rear he immediately told his men to reduce all of them to 30psi. I questioned him why , he said that the venturas should have max to max 32psi and 30 psi is optimum for all four wheels. He also said that thicker wheels with more air would mean more vibration and a bumpy ride . This increases rattles as well as ride quality really goes down . Also went for wheel alignment , I was shocked to see the car alignment was really off a thing which is known as "toe in". I hope i have the spelling right. After the adjustments when i drove the car i immediately the ride was soooo much smoother because of the reduced psi I guess.Handling had improved a bit and the car felt lighter while taking turns!! On my way to the shop some F****ER scraped the rear arch of my car . He was driving a getz prime. Waxpol to the rescue and voila all that remained was a small dent with a cut on top . All the Maroon colour had come off( Getz colour was maroon). Looking at the damage i could estimate that the guy did more damage to his car than he did to mine. Oh well shrug off and move on , I guess ! My car is geeting hit every 15 days so i guess I will wait for all the dents and scratched and then get the body work done !
	() Thanks

2nd March 2008, 19:50	#673
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,005 Thanked: 26,445 Times	some F**ER scraped the rear arch of my car too. It was me, cutting a U turn too tight and catching on the meridian. I'm afraid my not-yet-one swift is very far from being pristine already.
	() Thanks

3rd March 2008, 11:28	#675
abhilash_iv BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kochi Posts: 216 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	Even I was advised by the Tyre guys to have 30 psi all around for my Potanza GIII. At first I didnt oblige and put 33 in front and 31 in the back. Later I found that the ride is really smooth with 30 psi all around and now is sticking on to it. Mileage slightly decreased after making 30s.
	() Thanks