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Old 17th July 2020, 15:37   #5506
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So you have Amsoil Signature Series which is a 5w30 A5/B5 feel free to buy that.

Due to the lockdown I'm not able to get it in Chennai so I just bought Maximile Feo for my Scorpio's upcoming oil change.
It'll be my 3rd outing with Amsoil. I'm spoilt I guess. Sadly no FNGs open so oil change is long away. Thankfully I've not driven much and this oil is good for another year. Sadly Toyota doesn't allow me bringing my own oil else would've got it changed.
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https://www.hyundai.com/in/en/connec...les/engine-oil

Elantra 1.8 L API SM - SAE 5 W 30 3.85 L 294 306

So you need a good 5w30 engine oil. Later Hyundais ask for a 5w30 A3/B4 so I wou.........which is the older version of A5/B5, not quite the right choice for your car.
Thanks Hserus !
As per the Hyundai website this fits the description of my vehicle
Fludic Elantra 1.8 L API SM - SAE 5 W 30 4.0 L 294 306

What would be the oil change interval for the HX8?
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What would be the oil change interval for the HX8?
Should be good for 10,000 kms or 1 year interval.
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My Hyundai Verna 1.6 Crdi is due for its first service (10000kms), I am thinking of getting synthetic oil, the company recommended oil is 5W30, is shell helix hx8 5W30 good over the normal mineral oil or are there any better alternatives
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Hello,
My Hyundai Verna 1.6 Crdi is due for its first service (10000kms), I am thinking of getting synthetic oil, the company recommended oil is 5W30, is shell helix hx8 5W30 good over the normal mineral oil or are there any better alternatives
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2018 onwards Hyundai diesels need 5w30 a3b4 rather than 15w40 CI4+ and higher mineral. If Hyundai fills 5w30 it will be Synthetic or Semi Synthetic, not Mineral.

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2018 onwards Hyundai diesels need 5w30 a3b4 rather than 15w40 CI4+ and higher mineral. If Hyundai fills 5w30 it will be Synthetic or Semi Synthetic, not Mineral.
Thank You sir,
Can you suggest me a good 5W30 engine oil for the Hyundai Verna 1.6D.
is shell hx8 5W30 good?
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@Torquecraver - Vehicle is in warranty, any reason why you want to change the oil type? Hyundai unlike many other brands gives you options, you can opt for the synthetic \ synthetic - either ways you are getting a recommended oil that will work with your car`s engine.

Here is how they look. (from their website)

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@Torquecraver - Vehicle is in warranty, any reason why you want to change the oil type? Hyundai unlike many other brands gives you options, you can opt for the synthetic \ synthetic - either ways you are getting a recommended oil that will work with your car`s engine.
Hyundai fills a formulation from Servo / IOC and as far as I can see from at least one dealer itís all from huge drums kept in the service bays regardless of the effect hot Chennai weather and a steel drum can have on engine oilís additives.

The Hyundai I have runs much smoother with Shell than with Servo even if it is only my personal impression.

Very few a3b4 5w30s in the market most other 5w30 are a5b5 so stick with hx8 or shell hx8 taxi 5w30
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During the 2nd service last month I clicked snaps for the drums being mentioned above from Shell.

They were clicked at Advaith Hyundai (ITPL Bangalore)
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2018 onwards Hyundai diesels need 5w30 a3b4 rather than 15w40 CI4+ and higher mineral. If Hyundai fills 5w30 it will be Synthetic or Semi Synthetic, not Mineral.
Thank you sir,
I am thinking of going with shell helix hx8 5W30 5L + liqui moly engine oil additive 0.2L, which adds upto 5.2L against the hyundai recommended 5.3L
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Thank you sir,
I am thinking of going with shell helix hx8 5W30 5L + liqui moly engine oil additive 0.2L, which adds upto 5.2L against the hyundai recommended 5.3L
Dear Friend, Please zoom into the barrel picture above from Artyom- its written Helix Ultra fully synthetic oil designed for Hyundai diesel engines , someone has tested it for your engine and recommended it. If your vehicle is in warranty, all the more reasons to use the recommended oil. It gets recorded in the service records and will be a point of reference later for any warranty claims related to engine. (That engine is the best of its kind by the way).

Now on the oil additive - Just dont use it. We dont know how it is going to work in your engine and never over fill the oil.

I used to drive a 2018 petrol Verna very often when office was open , ours had covered ~ 50K Kms in less than 2 years , ran on Hyundai supplied oil without any problem.

If you would like to take extra care of your engine, just change the oil more frequently than factory recommendation, it does no harm.
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During the 2nd service last month I clicked snaps for the drums being mentioned above from Shell.

They were clicked at Advaith Hyundai (ITPL Bangalore)
Hm the ones I have seen at Kun Hyundai in Gandhi Nagar Adyar Chennai were all Servo. If you get access to Shell in your local dealership just fill that.

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Thank you sir,
I am thinking of going with shell helix hx8 5W30 5L + liqui moly engine oil additive 0.2L, which adds upto 5.2L against the hyundai recommended 5.3L
You won't be able to fill more than 5 liters is my guess - the sump won't drain 100%. Please don't bother with additives, shell is already full of additives.
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Hm the ones I have seen at Kun Hyundai in Gandhi Nagar Adyar Chennai were all Servo. If you get access to Shell in your local dealership just fill that.



You won't be able to fill more than 5 liters is my guess - the sump won't drain 100%. Please don't bother with additives, shell is already full of additives.
Same issue here sir, They don't have the Hyundai recommended shell oil for synthetic and they use servo, apart from this, i can get 5L for 2800 from amazon where they charge 5000 in the service centre for the same type of engine oil.
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Same issue here sir, They don't have the Hyundai recommended shell oil for synthetic and they use servo, apart from this, i can get 5L for 2800 from amazon where they charge 5000 in the service centre for the same type of engine oil.
I would suggest the following since I was in the same situation as yours:-

1. Check with different service centres as to which oil they are using and go with the ones using Shell.

2. Service centres stock Shell mineral oil as well as fully synthetic oil so be specific when you question them.

3. Most service centres have no issues if you bring your own oil but they will mention that in the service history.

This can cause issues while claiming warranty .

Hyundai can deny your claim stating engine oil being used was brought by the customer himself during service.

So if you are within warranty avoid buying oil from outside and using it.

4. Based upon my knowledge they charge 924 Inr per litre for Shell Fully Synthetic oil.

5. To avoid being cheated you can ask the service advisor to refill the engine oil in front of you like I did this time and they happily obliged.
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4. Based upon my knowledge they charge 924 Inr per litre for Shell Fully Synthetic oil.
924 / litre is 4620 maybe + tax for the 5000 figure.

Amazon sells HX8 5w30 at a very high discount now -

M.R.P.: ₹ 2,975.00
Price: ₹ 1,797.00
You Save: ₹ 1,178.00 (40%)

Shell Helix HX8 5W-30 API SN Plus/SN, ACEA A3/B4 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil for Cars (3.5 L)

This works out to around 513 per litre instead of 850 a litre. 2565 for 5 litres (though you would end up buying two 3.5 litre cans and keeping the rest for your next oil change).

Their 5w30 Taxi is also an A3B4 and also rated SN+ so if you need a 5w30 A3B4 for a TGDI turbo petrol look no further.

https://www.amazon.in/Shell-55005292...dp/B07XK8SM1X/

M.R.P.: ₹ 2,975.00
Price: ₹ 1,797.00
You Save: ₹ 1,178.00 (40%)

A bare 336 per litre instead of 850 a litre.

Add the costs of an oil filter, air filter and AC filter and 500 for labour and you could get it all done for far less than what the Hyundai ASS charges you for just engine oil.
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