My Karizma Mods & Ideas!

Technocrat · 19th January 2009, 15:27

wow that must be first i.e. converting to steel rims from alloys

I think you should check out rims from CBZ & old Unicorn.

Btw you have insurance right? get them replaced man

Sankar · 19th January 2009, 16:51

Yep Kedar it might be a first!

First defairing the Karizma and now alloy to wire wheels. You think the CBZ/Unicorn hub would suit the Kari? If yes then great!

After having brought up on many bikes but all with wire wheels I'm used to riding hard over potholes and broken stretches. When i bought the Karizma i had this worry on my mind as to how long the alloys would withstand the abuse. Some said the Karizma wheels are pretty strong, well it might be compared to other alloy wheels, but it's not as rugged as a wire wheel. I would be much more comfortable on wire wheels as the terrain i ride over is not always smooth tarmac. Another plus point of a wire wheel is that it can absorb shocks better than rigid alloys.

Many advised me to go for tubeless tyres. If i had a tubeless tyre i would've been stranded on the road today as the air would leak when the wheel got bent. It had a tube tyre and so i was able to make it to office in time. Btw there's a small crack on the sidewall of the tyre after it hit the ditch.

Technocrat · 19th January 2009, 17:23

Karizma defairing has been done by many so wasnt a first :-)

I have suggested Uni & CBZ as they are from Honda & with 18 inch wheels, not sure if they would be of any help though.

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Many advised me to go for tubeless tyres.

That included me too I believe. Well may be your riding conditions & requirements are different as I would still strongly suggest a PSD to any one for a ZMA

I too had managed to bent both my front & rear Alloys with no damage to stock tyres whatsoever(had hit a big pothole at 120) & also did my Hyderabad trip with bend mags.

vabs78 · 19th January 2009, 18:52

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Originally Posted by fieroid

...Who says, you loose reliability with mods? Again it depends on what exactly u doing. Not group B specs for sure. Well if a stock bike itself is thrashed day in a day out, it will wear faster than a well maintained and well ridden modified engine. ...

Good point Joel.
But the biggest problem IMO is to find a knowledgable guy for the mods.

Sankar · 19th January 2009, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

Karizma defairing has been done by many so wasnt a first :-)

I have suggested Uni & CBZ as they are from Honda & with 18 inch wheels, not sure if they would be of any help though.

That included me too I believe. Well may be your riding conditions & requirements are different as I would still strongly suggest a PSD to any one for a ZMA

I too had managed to bent both my front & rear Alloys with no damage to stock tyres whatsoever(had hit a big pothole at 120) & also did my Hyderabad trip with bend mags.

Yes i know that and i have seen many defaired Karizmas. I was referring to what i did, ie., first defairing the karizma and now (secondly) thinking de-alloying the karizma.

Tubeless tyres are a good but if the rims are not damaged. When there is a chance of wheel getting damaged, the tube type tyre will get me home. Steel wire wheels are much stronger, mostly due the the way the wheel is made. It's possible to try out different wheel combinations with spoked wheels that's an attraction to me. If i get new alloys, eventually it will also get bent. That's another reason that's pulling me towards wire wheels.

muneemmk · 19th January 2009, 20:59

got my bike repaired after a major accident the bill came to around 42K but i was surprised to see that the most costliest single part in the whole bill was the Front wheel assembly it costs a Whooping 6530Rs, just for the Font Wheel

My bike's a Unicorn.

quadra · 19th January 2009, 22:03

Great mods Sankar.

I am planning to install a ZMA headlight on my CBZ. How much does the naked headlight cost ?
What about the indicators ?

You can install the license plate just beneath the headlight...right ?

Sankar · 19th January 2009, 23:02

Headlamp is approximately 1300 bucks. Rear indicators cost 240 bucks each.

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Originally Posted by muneemmk

got my bike repaired after a major accident the bill came to around 42K but i was surprised to see that the most costliest single part in the whole bill was the Front wheel assembly it costs a Whooping 6530Rs, just for the Font Wheel

My bike's a Unicorn.

42K?? What all was changed on the bike? Insurance paid up i guess

muneemmk · 20th January 2009, 00:14

Everything excluding the engine(one side crankcase was also replaced) one of my ice installer died in the accident and the other guy who was piloting is still in coma yep the 30K got from insurance rest will have to pay up . Oh Sorry for going off topic.

Sankar · 20th January 2009, 07:24

Oh.. that's bad news man. May the soul RIP.

Technocrat · 20th January 2009, 14:45

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Tubeless tyres are a good but if the rims are not damaged. When there is a chance of wheel getting damaged, the tube type tyre will get me home.

Exactly. you have a special case where tubeless wont do any good, people wouldnt have recommended tubeless if this was known :-)

prabhuav · 20th January 2009, 15:11

Sankar,

Do you know if I can get a TM32 in Bangy. Thinking of one for my bull 500. What say?

You are so right about the alloy v/s wire wheels. A buddy of mine rode to leh from Bangy on his 1200GS and managed to completely mess up his alloy wheel. He has put in the wire wheels now.

Guess even the toughest of alloys cant take too much of a beating :(
Vijay

Sankar · 20th January 2009, 17:31

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Originally Posted by prabhuav

Sankar,

Do you know if I can get a TM32 in Bangy. Thinking of one for my bull 500. What say?

Bro, I got this TM32 from my friend, but you know why? The TM32's height wouldn't clear the chassis of the Bullet 500

But the roundslides like VM32 or the Amal concentric would fit without any issues.

Technocrat · 22nd January 2009, 15:58

Sankar, here is some food for thought for you

Raid Ride: Custom Bike Karizma-CRF

Sankar · 22nd January 2009, 17:41

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

Sankar, here is some food for thought for you

Raid Ride: Custom Bike Karizma-CRF

That's more CRF than a Karizma. I read about it in the Bike Magazine

The guy even imported a CRF frame to create that. I don't wish to go down that path man. It'll cost a lot of dough.

Here's a pic of a raid Karizma, except the suspension bits it's all Karizma. It belongs to someone i know.

19th January 2009, 15:27	#331
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	wow that must be first i.e. converting to steel rims from alloys I think you should check out rims from CBZ & old Unicorn. Btw you have insurance right? get them replaced man
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19th January 2009, 16:51	#332
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,058 Times	Yep Kedar it might be a first! First defairing the Karizma and now alloy to wire wheels. You think the CBZ/Unicorn hub would suit the Kari? If yes then great! After having brought up on many bikes but all with wire wheels I'm used to riding hard over potholes and broken stretches. When i bought the Karizma i had this worry on my mind as to how long the alloys would withstand the abuse. Some said the Karizma wheels are pretty strong, well it might be compared to other alloy wheels, but it's not as rugged as a wire wheel. I would be much more comfortable on wire wheels as the terrain i ride over is not always smooth tarmac. Another plus point of a wire wheel is that it can absorb shocks better than rigid alloys. Many advised me to go for tubeless tyres. If i had a tubeless tyre i would've been stranded on the road today as the air would leak when the wheel got bent. It had a tube tyre and so i was able to make it to office in time. Btw there's a small crack on the sidewall of the tyre after it hit the ditch.
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19th January 2009, 20:59	#336
muneemmk BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 832 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	got my bike repaired after a major accident the bill came to around 42K but i was surprised to see that the most costliest single part in the whole bill was the Front wheel assembly it costs a Whooping 6530Rs, just for the Font Wheel My bike's a Unicorn.
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19th January 2009, 22:03	#337
quadra BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Blore Posts: 552 Thanked: 68 Times	Great mods Sankar. I am planning to install a ZMA headlight on my CBZ. How much does the naked headlight cost ? What about the indicators ? You can install the license plate just beneath the headlight...right ? Last edited by quadra : 19th January 2009 at 22:06.
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20th January 2009, 00:14	#339
muneemmk BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 832 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	Everything excluding the engine(one side crankcase was also replaced) one of my ice installer died in the accident and the other guy who was piloting is still in coma yep the 30K got from insurance rest will have to pay up . Oh Sorry for going off topic.
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20th January 2009, 07:24	#340
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,058 Times	Oh.. that's bad news man. May the soul RIP.
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20th January 2009, 15:11	#342
prabhuav BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 672 Thanked: 128 Times View My Garage	Sankar, Do you know if I can get a TM32 in Bangy. Thinking of one for my bull 500. What say? You are so right about the alloy v/s wire wheels. A buddy of mine rode to leh from Bangy on his 1200GS and managed to completely mess up his alloy wheel. He has put in the wire wheels now. Guess even the toughest of alloys cant take too much of a beating :( Vijay Last edited by prabhuav : 20th January 2009 at 15:20.
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22nd January 2009, 15:58	#344
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Sankar, here is some food for thought for you Raid Ride: Custom Bike Karizma-CRF
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