[Dr.Naren]

Update from my Friend with damaged drive shaft Boot in S-Cross 1.6!!

My friend got a call saying the part has arrived. He went to service centre and they had got the boot set meant for 1.3 S-Cross .



1.3 S-Cross boot set costs only 680 Rs and it's 4915 Rs for 1.6 S-Cross!!

Front drive shaft boot set for 1.6 S-Cross was not available anywhere. He pushed for full front left drive shaft replacement under warranty. After consulting with works manager and TSM.. It was approved . Luckily the part was available with another dealer in Bangalore and the same was sourced very next day.


It is SGP and the price is 12,185 Rs.

Old Drive shaft


New Drive Shaft

[kpzen]

Update : Downpipe + EGR blocked

The 1.6 has a very restrictive air intake and exhaust design.
And, it was not doing justice to the remap. Over 3k RPM, the restriction could be felt.

Sajan was continuously suggesting a downpipe after landing in Bangalore.
So, finally got the downpipe done from Bay6 motorworks last week.
The downpipe is made of SS306 and wrapped with Titanium heat shield. Completely bolt on and reversible to stock anytime required.

While doing the downpipe work, Sajan did a hard block for the EGR as well.
The map already had the EGR blocked so it was just plug n play.

Post downpipe, I haven’t driven much due to work and heavy rain in Bangalore.
However, the initial impression of driving it on NICE road is good.
The turbo revvs freely and engine feels more like a free revving Hyundai CRDi.

The map shall be tweaked as per the downpipe when I meet Sajan next time.
Also, I shall post more on the downpipe after a long highway drive next week.

[sudeepg]

Originally Posted by kpzen

Update : Downpipe + EGR blocked

However, the initial impression of driving it on NICE road is good.
The turbo revvs freely and engine feels more like a free revving Hyundai CRDi.

Do you feel any gains in power or is just the turbo revving more freely? Also, does this change the exhaust sound of the car?

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by sudeepg

Do you feel any gains in power or is just the turbo revving more freely? Also, does this change the exhaust sound of the car?

Hi Sudeep,

The intention was not to gain more power. Without downpipe itself it was around 170 BHP.
With downpipe, the engine feels lighter and more free revving. However, I will reserve my feedback until I do a good highway drive.

Exhaust sound difference is not really noticeable. The high revving growl has a whistling tone now.

OT : Where are you with phone switched off ? Been trying to connect to you since yesterday morning. The grommets are ready.

[Dr.Naren]

Originally Posted by kpzen

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The 1.6 has a very restrictive air intake and exhaust design.

Yes, very much. Any plans to mod the air intake?

The downpipe is made of SS306 and wrapped with Titanium heat shield. Completely bolt on and reversible to stock anytime required.

Welcome to remap & downpipe club

Do you have any pics of new downpipe before installation? Also did you install back the stock heat shield?

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

Any plans to mod the air intake?

Tough chance, as of now. Nothing readily available that fits.

Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

Do you have any pics of new downpipe before installation? Also did you install back the stock heat shield?

I was travelling, so don't have the WIP pics.

2 out of the 3 heat shields were installed back.

[ku69rd]

Originally Posted by kpzen

Tough chance, as of now. Nothing readily available that fits.
.

Are the brakes holding up well with your increased power? The increased power brings out a stronger mid range or you have set it up for better top end?
Interested in your feedback...

[Sankar]

Originally Posted by kpzen

However, I will reserve my feedback until I do a good highway drive.

Exhaust sound difference is not really noticeable. The high revving growl has a whistling tone now.

Coming to Kerala for Onam? Can't really expect much from a 4 pot turbo diesel with regard to exhaust sound, but still that whistle sounds good.

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by ku69rd

Are the brakes holding up well with your increased power? The increased power brings out a stronger mid range or you have set it up for better top end?
Interested in your feedback...

Brakes were replaced at 30k when it had some 30% life left.
So I believe the stock pads can easily do 35k. Decent life IMO.

As of now, I'm not sure about the increased power with downpipe.
Map is tuned for a strong mid/top rang for highways.

Originally Posted by Sankar

Coming to Kerala for Onam? Can't really expect much from a 4 pot turbo diesel with regard to exhaust sound, but still that whistle sounds good.

May be Onam or in October. Will buzz you when I am there.

[Dr.Naren]

Originally Posted by kpzen

I was travelling, so don't have the WIP pics.

Just asked because the Bay 6 Downpipe looked much different than the Blackworks Downpipe which I am having in my 1.6 S-Cross.

Blackworks Downpipe vs Stock Cat


Downpipe sold by JTD performance Europe for the same engine


Bay 6 Downpipe :


From the pic it looks like the downpipe is not straight and has longer and tighter bends. Any particular reasons for this design / engineering? I believe a shorter straight pipe will have more benefits

Also what's SS306? I believe it's SS316 or SS304?

[lovetorque]

Originally Posted by kpzen

Update : Downpipe + EGR blocked

The 1.6 has a very restrictive air intake and exhaust design.
And, it was not doing justice to the remap. Over 3k RPM, the restriction could be felt.

While doing the downpipe work, Sajan did a hard block for the EGR as well.
The map already had the EGR blocked so it was just plug n play.

The map shall be tweaked as per the downpipe when I meet Sajan next time.

Wow, this is really the update for the week IMO
Having driven your remapped beast that is already having explosive mid-range and top end, I'm sure that highway drives are going to be more interesting. We need to meet very soon buddy I am curious to see effect the upcoming tweaking on remap with the down pipe in. Also update us if there is any change in NVH / Cabin noise. Happy S Crossing!

[Sankar]

Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

From the pic it looks like the downpipe is not straight and has longer and tighter bends. Any particular reasons for this design / engineering? I believe a shorter straight pipe will have more benefits

Both downpipes can be improved, there is a lot of scope for it. JTD pipe in the pic is not the gold standard, with all those clamps attached to it I think this particular JTD pipe seems to have been built to fit under the stock heat shield and that has limitations.

For a longitudinally mounted engine like in the Crysta and especially in the 1GDFTV downpipes can be a lot simpler look like a drain pipe and still flow well, thanks to how its from factory. Can't say the same for previous Innova/Fortuner's KD engine which needs to be thought out well like the Scross's.

Tight bends are not good, but avoiding bends is not possible but they can be designed better.

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

Just asked because the Bay 6 Downpipe looked much different than the Blackworks down pipe

From the pic it looks like the downpipe is not straight and has longer and tighter bends. Any particular reasons for this design / engineering? I believe a shorter straight pipe will have more benefits

Also what's SS306? I believe it's SS316 or SS304?

For checking the benefit of downpipe. I shall do a dyno run and compare with my earlier remap dyno result.

My Code6 remap Scross 1.6 dyno result


It's SS316, sorry for the typo.

Originally Posted by lovetorque

Wow, this is really the update for the week IMO
Having driven your remapped beast that is already having explosive mid-range and top end, I'm sure that highway drives are going to be more interesting. We need to meet very soon buddy I am curious to see effect the upcoming tweaking on remap with the down pipe in. Also update us if there is any change in NVH / Cabin noise. Happy S Crossing!

Sure lovetorque.
Let's drive around and explore more serene places.

[Sebring]

Guys, I dont know if you've noticed the same but SCross doesnt seem to hold up to spirited use. I've taken several test drives with the odo hovering between 10,000 and 20,000 and each of these cars have some glitch or the other and they dont seems to drive smoothly with the sales guys sheepishly saying every time that the car has been used for Xplus kilometers. Maybe I was plain unlucky! This was not the case with the XUV, Ecosport or Duster.

Have you guys had a different expereince? I just doubt if its built to last.

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by Sebring

Guys, I dont know if you've noticed the same but SCross doesnt seem to hold up to spirited use. I've taken several test drives with the odo hovering between 10,000 and 20,000 and each of these cars have some glitch or the other and they dont seems to drive smoothly with the sales guys sheepishly saying every time that the car has been used for Xplus kilometers. Maybe I was plain unlucky! This was not the case with the XUV, Ecosport or Duster.

Have you guys had a different expereince? I just doubt if its built to last.

Sebring

Firstly, share the details of glitches observed.

Secondly, Suggest you to read through the official review thread of Scross, lot of owners have shared their ownership feedback time to time from all parts of the country. Most of the owners are impressed With car's performance and build quality from Maruti.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offici...al-review.html

Also, you would find more details in user's ownership threads especially by mi10, Dr Naren and keynote.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...-remapped.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...tic-white.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...rsonified.html

Most likely your doubts would be answered after going through the above threads.