[govigov]

Originally Posted by ts1506

It took two more tries with pressing and releasing the clutch before it would start. One of the time, it just didn't start, and I had to restart the engine with the button.

This happened once on my highway trip last day too, but I didn't think of it much. Any pointers ?

Not really sure, as some of us have the older version without the start-stop. I had some difficulties with regular starting some time back, (with same symptoms, just a half crank and beeps) but I noticed that the floor mats were riding much higher and the clutch in those cases was not getting fully engaged. Check the floor mats.

If for your trip, if you are facing the issue, just turn the start-stop system off using the dedicated button.

[vishnurp99]

The Maruti brochure shows the following gross vehicle weights for Ciaz and Scross.

1. Ciaz - 1595
2. Scross - 1670x

So does this mean that there is only a 75 Kg difference between Ciaz and scross. I though there was around 150 Kg difference between Ciaz and scross.

[ts1506]

Originally Posted by vishnurp99

The Maruti brochure shows the following gross vehicle weights for Ciaz and Scross.

1. Ciaz - 1595
2. Scross - 1670x

So does this mean that there is only a 75 Kg difference between Ciaz and scross. I though there was around 150 Kg difference between Ciaz and scross.

Ciaz has a Kerb Weight 1010-1030 kg (Petrol MT), 1025-1030 kg (Petrol AT), 1105-1135 kg (Diesel MT).

S-Cross is 1215-1240 kg.

Comparing Diesel to Diesel, that's a difference of 95 to 120kg in kerb weights.

All figures taken from User Manuals

[vishnurp99]

For ciaz Is this the svhs variant?

[zaveed]

Originally Posted by ts1506

A general query. Today, my S-Cross failed to start three times, from the Auto-Stop state. .... I had to restart the engine with the button.

Check if the battery light light is coming up when you turn on the ignition.I had faced the same issue, where the car started fine but stopped after 2 kms, it was DEAD. root cause was the alternator wire was chewed off by the rat, car ran till the battery had power and then it was dead. had to tow it to the service center and get it repaired.

Thanks

[Dr.Naren]

S-Cross with SX4 Alloys

More pics here :
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post4370948

[Dr.Naren]

I had posted before on this thread about front brake pads. Indian S-Cross gets same pads as old SX4, not same as International S-Cross.

Now it is time to analyse rear brake pads. Rear brake pads are imported in S-Cross and price is around 6K. This is same as European S-Cross. Brembo, EBC, Mintex have replacement pads for rear.

I checked the shape and measured dimensions of rear pads in my S-Cross. This matched with diagram from reputed brake pads manufacturers.

EBC

Brembo

Part numbers
EBC Ultimax : DPX2120
Brembo : P 79 029
Mintex : MDB3168

I would be getting EBC Green stuff front brake pads in few days. For rear pads, I would go with Brembo or Mintex.

[vishnurp99]

Originally Posted by ts1506

Ciaz has a Kerb Weight 1010-1030 kg (Petrol MT), 1025-1030 kg (Petrol AT), 1105-1135 kg (Diesel MT).

S-Cross is 1215-1240 kg.

Comparing Diesel to Diesel, that's a difference of 95 to 120kg in kerb weights.

All figures taken from User Manuals

Think this is the non-SVHS variant. The SHVS variant for ciaz will be 1135 + 35 kgs. So around 1170 which is 70 kilos lesser than scross.

I downloaded the brochures from this link. Both ciaz and scross are available here. The difference is only about 70 Kgs.

https://www.nexaexperience.com/e-brochure.html

[vishnurp99]

Hi All,

Had a quick question on Gross vehicle weight and kerb weight.

Scross Kerb weight - 1240
Gross Weight - 1670

This is just 430 Kgs (86 kilos per person). How seriously should we adhere to this 430 Kgs limit? 5 fairly hefty people at 90 kilos will cross the limit here.

What is the usual difference between GW and Kerb weight?

[ts1506]

Originally Posted by vishnurp99

Think this is the non-SVHS variant. The SHVS variant for ciaz will be 1135 + 35 kgs. So around 1170 which is 70 kilos lesser than scross.

I downloaded the brochures from this link. Both ciaz and scross are available here. The difference is only about 70 Kgs.

https://www.nexaexperience.com/e-brochure.html

I took the figures from a Nexa Ciaz manual. Nexa Ciaz was having SHVS from starting.

You can find the Nexa manual here and the Maruti manual here.

The Nexa manual says 1105 to 1135kg, while the old Maruti manual says 1105 to 1120kg.

[vellat sasi]

Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

I had posted before on this thread about front brake pads. Indian S-Cross gets same pads as old SX4, not same as International S-Cross.

The query that I have is whether you are changing the pads because of poor braking or you would like even better braking.

I have a 1.3 but of late I have noticed the brake response is poor especially in tight situations. So the query.

[Dr.Naren]

Originally Posted by vellat sasi

The query that I have is whether you are changing the pads because of poor braking or you would like even better braking.

S-Cross has decent braking capabilities. It is not bad. The initial bite is not that great and brake fade is also more. It should not be a problem for Point A to Point B drivers. My S-Cross 1.6 is tuned, doing more than 400 NM torque. The car picks up speed really really FAST. 0-100 in 7.9 seconds. The top speed has also increased by 15 percentage .

Stock brakes are not at all confidence inspiring for me. There is lot of brake fade. This is the reason I am upgrading the front pads. If i want more, I will change rear pads too.

[vellat sasi]

Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

S-Cross has decent braking capabilities. It is not bad. The initial bite is not that great and brake fade is also more.

Thank you for the quick response. Now that I have the right words for it, 'brake fade', that was the problem I faced. Twice in point A to point B situations in stop go traffic. It is not consistent so I was not prepared for it. Can this be adjusted by the service centre or would it need more looking into.

Thank you for your consistent information upgrade which helps all of us. I did connect with Wolf on improving performance but with not much opportunity opening up for longer travel, I held myself back. However, people like you stop 'brain fade' from happening.

regards
Sasi

[Dr.Naren]

Originally Posted by vellat sasi

Can this be adjusted by the service centre or would it need more looking into.

OE pads and rotors are made by TVS / Rane. They are of average quality. Only way out is getting better quality pads and rotors.

Thank you for your consistent information upgrade which helps all of us. I did connect with Wolf on improving performance but with not much opportunity opening up for longer travel, I held myself back.

Wolf remaps for both S-Cross 1.6 and 1.3 are not just about outright performance. Drivability is the key word and there is good improvement in low end too. When you want to have fun, just smash the A pedal and car picks up speed very fast.

However, people like you stop 'brain fade' from happening.

[ajay_satpute]

Based on my experience, the brakes of SCross are fantastic. Responsive, accurate, no fuss and reliable. I have had 2-3 very close shaves, but brakes have never disappointed me so far. Of course, my running is about 1k KMs per month on average, but still no issues so far.