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| ![]() A request to mods: please add these crash test results to the respective car's official review first page. It needs to be mentioned as a first point in the "what you wont like" list in the summary. We need all prospective buyers (not just forum members) to be aware of these crash test results before they make a decision. I would also go to the extent of hiding the Car of the year thread with us (Team-BHP members) declaring Kwid as the winner. Now that the crash test results are out, it only misleads the folks looking for positives in the car. |
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Infractions: 0/1 (4) | ![]() It is Chevrolet Beat I think. 4 star rating (with airbags of course; And Euro NCAP, not tested by GNCAP). |
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With the known G NCAP results only VW Polo or Etios Liva are the safe hatchbacks available now, all the rest are speculations. Last edited by volkman10 : 18th May 2016 at 11:01. | |
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The sad fact is, most people won't look at the NCAP and other safety ratings because everyone thinks it won't happen to them - until it does and people die. People need to boycott these manufacturers - hit them where it hurts; when their sales drop then maybe they will wake up and start producing safe cars. It's just astounding that in this day and age we can still buy cars without basic safety equipment. I remember when my grandfather went to buy a Maruti Suzuki Omni van in 1996 - it had no safety equipment whatsoever. Nothing. Not even seat belts or crumple zones. In fact the sales guy was surprised that we were even asking questions about safety etc. Needless to say we didn't buy the car. Looks like things have changed very little in 20 years. | |
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Newbie Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Bangalore
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| ![]() Really saddened to see the results. I was wondering what Team BHP as a community can do for this? As some forum members have said about educating family and friends is fine to have a local impact but what about a larger impact? Few thoughts from my end: 1) NCAP crash videos to be added to the front page of T- BHP car review itself when available. There are many many non members who read our review before purchase. It would lead to a more informed choice. Also the reason for front page is to ensure maximum visibility as some of the buyers may not read the entire thread. 2) We could start a twitter campaign say #giveussafecars and try to make it viral 3) Safety could also be one of the criteria when we decide on the COTY. Its really sad that our choice- KWID turned out to be this unsafe. I am sure other members would have better ideas for what we as a community can actually do about the unsafe cars peddled to us by the manufacturers and the total apathy towards safety as is evident in their responses. Cheers |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Article in today's Mumbai Mirror : http://www.mumbaimirror.com/columns/...w/52317587.cms INDIAN CARS FLUNK GLOBAL CRASH TEST Quote:
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() David Ward, General Secretary, Global NCAP, says that more crash tests are in line by end-August/early September. Apparently, 3 cars are in the shortlist (according to Autocar Professional) - a fourth version of the Renault Kwid, and two new selections from Indian OEM car manufacturers. ![]() He also defended the 64 kmph-speeds used for crash testing, saying that when two vehicles collide at those speeds, the impact speed across both vehicles is around 55 kmph. Excerpts from his interview: Quote:
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| ![]() We, at Team-BHP, are very very angry and upset with the car manufacturers for failing to meet basic safety standards in their cars and understandably so.. This thread is on it's 13th page as I write and growing very rapidly! Last time, when they tested cars like Swift/Go/I10, the results were similar and those cars and manufaturers were heavily criticized. Remember the irresponsible statements by the Maruti Chairman then! But, the question is - what impact did it have on the sales of those vehicles? A BIG ZERO! Swift continued to bring in record numbers and with it's twin Dzire they have been ruling the sales charts for a long long time. So, why will the company care? And I am sure these results won't have any impact on the sales on the above vehicles. The point I am trying to make is that while the manufacturers can be blamed, the people have to take the blame as well. There is lack of awareness but even people who are aware don't give a damn! I have spoken to many friends, colleagues, neighbours on this topic and the general attitude is - "I drive moslty in city, why do I care?" OR, " I drive safely, it won't happen to me" etc etc. The truth is very sad and disconcerting - Most people value a touchscheen audio unit or push button start or DRLs than safety. Otherwise, how will you explain people buying lower variants of the car without safety features and then spending a fortune on HU/audio/alloys? I have seen people regretting the money 'wasted' on ABS/airbags as they were forced to buy the top variant for some fancy feature like touchsceen audio (for example). Car buying decision in our country is driven by looks, features,mileage. Safety is nowhere in the the priority list. There are few exceptions but not significant to change the market dynamics and force companies to think of safety as a top priority. I know awareness is increasing among the car buying public nowadays but not at a rate fast enough to impact the market dynamics. Forums like this and other media like Print, news channels, auto magazines need to play a more active role to change the mindset of people towards safety. Hope for better times ahead! Few takeaways from the tests - Weight/Size of the vehicle does not have any relation with safety. (The tin can Liva and the mighty Scorpio provide great examples) The structure of the cage/vehicle is more important than any other safety feature. Airbags make a difference only if structure is safe. PS - I would like to see some Honda vehicles getting tested. They are probably the only big manufacturer which has not been tested by GNCAP in India Last edited by adimicra : 18th May 2016 at 11:42. |
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![]() Adding to missing airbags, there are companies who are also compromising on body of the car by giving low grade materials. But still people buy due to the popularity. We can go on and on (it will be another discussion), let's stick to the topic. | |
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| ![]() Some people concerned about safety of cars like Figo, City etc. Well for all I remember, Figo(old one) had received 3.5 stars in GNCAP. As for City, it is probably the safest car among the under 10 lakh sedans, although not sure about the ratings. Couple of years ago when I studying about crash safety in my college, my professor was bragging about the City. So if City is safe, Jazz should automatically be as well. Generally speaking, Honda, Ford and Toyota are the only ones I would trust, as far as safety is concerned. |
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| ![]() These answers appear as if they have come out of some answering machine, not a human. ![]() Shame on them. Quote:
On other thoughts, I am really looking forward to the Safari Storme test, given that it is the nearest competitor to the Scorpio and weighs even more. ![]() Last edited by abhishek46 : 18th May 2016 at 12:07. Reason: added quote | |
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If packaged food can be banned based randomly tested for chemicals which may harm consumers, I think government should certainly step in for cars which may (potentially) kill its occupants. | |
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