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| ![]() The govt. has no excuses to hide behind, they created 'Indian conditions' all on their own. Horrendous infrastructure by bad engineering and horrible road users by non-existent licensing regulation. 'Indian Conditions' didn't suddenly drop out of the sky one fine morning. ![]() |
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Just finished watching 2 back to back discussions on Zee news regarding car safety. Probably for the first time, the matter has been taken to general public in this way. I hope at least some people get influenced positively. But journalists being journalists, they stressed only on terminologies like ABS, airbags, ESC etc. and missed to cover the main stuff: The body shell and design. But at least, the word is now being spread in public unlike last time when other Indian cars failed the test. Regards Saket. Last edited by saket77 : 18th May 2016 at 22:11. | |
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Zee News has adequately covered the story about the cars failing in the NCAP car crash tests. Apart from the failure of the cars in meeting the stringent safety standards, the following important aspects were also highlighted:-
No wonder if the Government fails to legislate stricter safety norms for the vehicles, the Courts may step up to put the house in order. | |
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| ![]() Just read Maruti Suzuki India's response to Global NCAP's crash test results, quoting the same below. Quote:
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| ![]() In light of this news, shouldn't the Kwid be stripped off the "Teambhp car of the year" title? |
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Kwid is a path breaking car. It should be allowed to improve and grow in the light of the NCAP tests. There are so many other factors, apart from air bags and structural issues , leading to accidents - alcohol, tiredness,over speeding, driving without seat belts and lack of sleep being few of them. Out of average 400 person getting killed on road everyday, 72 die on account of car crash. most of the car crash deaths happen to SUVs and those cars which have capacity to move real quick and fast. Kwid reportedly finds it tough to reach 100 KMPH speed or indulge in quick pickup at high speed, making it comparatively a safer car. ![]() Till a legislation or an self imposed mandate by industry, comes in force to ensure air bags in every car, we can hope that the NCAP tests will lead to public awareness so that the car makers are forced to provide air bags and other structural improvements for better safety in cars. | |
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Something like 60% of road deaths are of pedestrians and cyclists. 25% of other two wheelers. Trucks, commercial vehicles carrying passengers (Tempo Trax, Travellers, tractors, Omnis) & buses account for a significant percentage of remaining deaths. A quick Google search (or even checking the page 3 for a month of your newspaper for traffic related deaths ) will confirm the above. Our car penetration is not deep enough to cause 72 car passenger deaths a day. I would expect the real percentage to be just 2 or 3%. However - What 18% statistics could mean is that car crashing into pedertrians, cyclists and other two wheelers could have caused 18% of deaths. | |
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these figures were derived from a TV show, aired only yesterday. India's contribution to the road accident deaths is highest in the world. probably the real figures may emerge only from the official sources like Police, Transport department or NCRB ( National Crime Record Bureau) | |
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| ![]() It seems to me that the Global NCAP is being too sly and have selected cars that they already know will invariably NOT pass any test at the mandated 64 kmph. This shock value will garner them many eyeballs and revenue in future it seems. Because they are adament enough not to test any models that may pass the test. No organisation should be considered clean and without bias. But in any case the less said about our car manufacturers the better. I have always felt how Indian cars have such high fuel efficiency without any breakthrough technology when the same US and EU models advertise far higher miles per gallon consumption figures. And the americans constantly scream that they are sold cars that are inherently non-fuel efficient and diesels are not given priority etc. Our guys just found a neat shortcut, reduce safety, no one will know anyways. Organisations like ARAI have also been conmplicit in certifying dozens of maruti and hyundai tincans while rejecting imports on guise of homologation. |
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Not only that, the tests are conducted by smashing into a wall. Now imagine crashing into another oncoming car that also was traveling at 60kmph. Now imagine crashing into a heavy SUV traveling at 60kmph. Kwid is not a comparatively safer car because it's got a weak engine. That just makes it an underpowered car! | |
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For long time, there was complacency about the safety aspects of cars on Indian roads, and this test adds a shock value , waking up people to safety aspects. In that sense, I welcome the tests by NCAP as it will only benefit Indians in the long run. | |
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Take an example of a 2010 Jetta bought for around 3 to 4 lakhs. It would come with 8 airbags, ESP or traction control, automatic ac, all power and auto windows, possible cruise control for highline versions and of course ABS. Highline versions do have auto headlights and rain sensing wipers as well. Similalrly, a 2010 Civic bought for a similar price would have 2 airbags, ABS and auto climte control. Yes, it might cost you an extra lakh to maintain over the next few years if things go wrong but you get a much safer vehicle with much greater comfort and status. Even a 2011 or 2012 Vento with 2 airbags and ABS can be bought for around 4 lakhs. All examples provided would have low mileage between 25k to 70k. Of course this only works for a person looking to use their newly bought vehicle for say 5 more years. You can't expect to buy a 2010 car and then use it for 10 or 15 more years. Last edited by Lobogris : 19th May 2016 at 10:24. | |
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| ![]() Underpowered engine would make the car more dangerous on single lane roads. Imagine overtaking powerful commercial vehicle like a Volvo bus! chances of head-on collision increases exponentially |
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