[Landkruzer]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

Google maps led me to a 8 feet wide village road when I asked GoogleDevi to help me bypass Jhansi. I lost 30 min. But part of a roadtrip.

Was this a mapping error or the bypass itself is not ready? Can your point out the problem area? If it is a mapping error, I will try to correct it.

[tazonahighway]

Hi All,

My first post/query here.

I am planning to travel Bangalore-Spiti in September and the route upto Delhi that I have thought of is Bangalore-Hyderabad-Nagpur-Sagar-Jhansi-Gwalior-Delhi. Plan is to do Bangalore-Nagpur on Day 1 and Nagpur-Delhi on Day 2. We are a group of 4 guys, with 2 drivers, experienced in long drives(>18 hrs a day). We will start driving early in the day to be able to settle in and rest earlier in the evening.

Is this a doable plan? Anything that would help me in terms of road conditions, tips, suggestions etc would be really appreciated. My ride is a 4X2 Scorpio CRDE.

Cheers,
Taz

[Krishnan V G]

Originally Posted by tazonahighway

Hi All,
My first post/query here.

Hi, doing Bangalore to Nagpur on day one and Nagpur to Delhi seems difficult but not impossible as the roads, about 80-90% of the entire distance by your selected route is very good. Several factors you need to factor in:
1. The time of leaving Bangalore and your proximity to Bangalore-Hyderabad highway on Day 1 will determine how soon you can reach Nagpur, and will also cut down your late evening driving on the first day.
2. Choice of hotel for the night stay at Nagpur - choose based on proximity to the Nagpur to Sagar route so that you can leave and exit Nagpur quickly and effectively.
3. Awareness of the precise exits and bypass routes around cities and towns on both days. Example, it is important to bypass Agra as getting into the city at anytime will delay you easily by an hour or two.
4. A different thought - we did Delhi to Sagar and then Sagar to Hyderabad, staying for the night at Deepali Residency, Sagar, very close to the highway. You may consider Bangalore to Sagar on day one and Sagar to Delhi on day two. You will face some challenges near Adilabad (diversions but decent roads) and Hinganghat railway gate where the road is in bad shape but for a short distance on day one. On day two the challenge would be the diversions between Jhansi and Gwalior and the poor road conditions near Dholpur. Bypassing Gwalior, Jhansi, Agra city and then getting into Noida expressway from Mathura to reach Delhi is important for you to reach comfortably.
5. The number of stops on the way for fuelling, food, rest etc is an important factor to factor in.

[nilanjanray]

Originally Posted by tazonahighway

Hi All,

My first post/query here.

I am planning to travel Bangalore-Spiti in September and the route upto Delhi that I have thought of is Bangalore-Hyderabad-Nagpur-Sagar-Jhansi-Gwalior-Delhi. Plan is to do Bangalore-Nagpur on Day 1 and Nagpur-Delhi on Day 2. We are a group of 4 guys, with 2 drivers, experienced in long drives(>18 hrs a day). We will start driving early in the day to be able to settle in and rest earlier in the evening.

Is this a doable plan? Anything that would help me in terms of road conditions, tips, suggestions etc would be really appreciated. My ride is a 4X2 Scorpio CRDE.

Cheers,
Taz

Yes, doable. Especially since you have multiple drivers, are used to long drives/have endurance, and have a suv. Start early. 16 - 17 hrs of driving everyday.

I have done Bangalore - Rukhad (before Seoni) many times.

And a while back I did Pench - Agra, starting late after 10 am. From Agra, Delhi is 2 hours through YEH. If one leaves Pench/ Rukhad at 5 am, one will reach Delhi the same evening.

Rest will be critical. Otherwise not a biggie.

[ranjitp1]

Originally Posted by tazonahighway

Hi All,

My first post/query here.

I am planning to travel Bangalore-Spiti in September and the route upto Delhi that I have thought of is Bangalore-Hyderabad-Nagpur-Sagar-Jhansi-Gwalior-Delhi. Plan is to do Bangalore-Nagpur on Day 1 and Nagpur-Delhi on Day 2. We are a group of 4 guys, with 2 drivers, experienced in long drives(>18 hrs a day). We will start driving early in the day to be able to settle in and rest earlier in the evening.

Is this a doable plan? Anything that would help me in terms of road conditions, tips, suggestions etc would be really appreciated. My ride is a 4X2 Scorpio CRDE.

Cheers,
Taz

Agree with the others who have commented,Day1 is easily doable as Hyd is bypassed via the Nehru ORR and the only pain is the Telangana-MH border.But overall,it can be done in about 17-18hrs with breaks(6.5-7hrs Devanahalli-Shamshabad,90mins on the ORR,7-8hr to Nagpur plus bio breaks and food breaks).

Day2 you should be able to make it to Delhi late in the night provided you do a very early morning start.

[tazonahighway]

Originally Posted by Krishnan V G

1. The time of leaving Bangalore and your proximity to Bangalore-Hyderabad highway on Day 1 will determine how soon you can reach Nagpur, and will also cut down your late evening driving on the first day.

I live withing 4km accessibility to Devanahalli Road, so this shouldn't be an issue. I plan to start at 5 AM.

Originally Posted by Krishnan V G

2. Choice of hotel for the night stay at Nagpur - choose based on proximity to the Nagpur to Sagar route so that you can leave and exit Nagpur quickly and effectively.

Any suggestions here?

Originally Posted by Krishnan V G

3. Awareness of the precise exits and bypass routes around cities and towns on both days.

I have Google and Here Maps(Full India Maps downloaded to device). Will these help?

Originally Posted by Krishnan V G

4. A different thought - we did Delhi to Sagar and then Sagar to Hyderabad, staying for the night at Deepali Residency, Sagar, very close to the highway. You may consider Bangalore to Sagar on day one and Sagar to Delhi on day two. You will face some challenges near Adilabad (diversions but decent roads) and Hinganghat railway gate where the road is in bad shape but for a short distance on day one.

Great idea! I should consider this one as it would mean a relatively hassle-free ride on Day 2. Should be able to make it into Sagar late on Day 1 if I leave Bangalore as planned at 5 AM.

Originally Posted by Krishnan V G

On day two the challenge would be the diversions between Jhansi and Gwalior and the poor road conditions near Dholpur. Bypassing Gwalior, Jhansi, Agra city and then getting into Noida expressway from Mathura to reach Delhi is important for you to reach comfortably.

Same question. Do Maps help?

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

Yes, doable. Especially since you have multiple drivers, are used to long drives/have endurance, and have a suv. Start early. 16 - 17 hrs of driving everyday.

I have done Bangalore - Rukhad (before Seoni) many times.

And a while back I did Pench - Agra, starting late after 10 am. From Agra, Delhi is 2 hours through YEH. If one leaves Pench/ Rukhad at 5 am, one will reach Delhi the same evening.

Rest will be critical. Otherwise not a biggie.

Thank you, for the information. Starting early on both days is the plan.

Originally Posted by ranjitp1

Agree with the others who have commented,Day1 is easily doable as Hyd is bypassed via the Nehru ORR and the only pain is the Telangana-MH border.But overall,it can be done in about 17-18hrs with breaks(6.5-7hrs Devanahalli-Shamshabad,90mins on the ORR,7-8hr to Nagpur plus bio breaks and food breaks).

Day2 you should be able to make it to Delhi late in the night provided you do a very early morning start.

Early morning start is the plan.

[nilanjanray]

Sarjapir Road ( near Wipro office) to Rukhad Mptdc is 16 hrs, 1200 km. You can shave off 1.5 hrs if you are near Devanahalli and stopping at or near Nagpur.

[ranjitp1]

Originally Posted by tazonahighway

I live withing 4km accessibility to Devanahalli Road, so this shouldn't be an issue. I plan to start at 5 AM.
Any suggestions here?

Bangalore-Sagar in a single day can be a huge strain,defi not something that I would suggest.Nagpur Sagar is close to 400kms and a drive time of 6-7hrs.

[tazonahighway]

Hi All,

I have a couple of questions regarding the route between Nagpur and Sagar. Google Maps shows me two options:
1> NH 26B via Savner, Linga and Narsinghpur - 386 km
2> NH 7 and NH 26 via Seoni, Lakhnadon and Narsinghpur - 400 km

Which of these is the preferred/better/faster route? How are the road conditions? Any suggestions would be of great help.

Also, since I will be doing Bangalore-Nagpur on Day 1, a hotel closer to the Sagar highway in Nagpur would be preferable. Does anyone have any suggestions on a good hotel to spend a night?

Thanks,
Taz

[tazonahighway]

Originally Posted by tazonahighway

Hi All,

I have a couple of questions regarding the route between Nagpur and Sagar. Google Maps shows me two options:
1> NH 26B via Savner, Linga and Narsinghpur - 386 km
2> NH 7 and NH 26 via Seoni, Lakhnadon and Narsinghpur - 400 km

Hello experts,

Anyone for this query? Should I take the route through Chindwara or through Seoni? Kindly help.

Thanks,
Taz

[hvkumar]

Originally Posted by tazonahighway

Hello experts,

Anyone for this query? Should I take the route through Chindwara or through Seoni? Kindly help.

Thanks,
Taz

Stick to the North-South Corridor of Nagpur-Seoni-Laknadon-Narasingpur-Sagar-Lalitpur-Jhansi

[tazonahighway]

Originally Posted by hvkumar

Stick to the North-South Corridor of Nagpur-Seoni-Laknadon-Narasingpur-Sagar-Lalitpur-Jhansi

Thank you, Kumar sir for the suggestion. I will take this route

[vaibhav_a_a]

Hello All,

I'm here to report back from the Hyderabad - Jaipur trip concluded late last night (Saturday) with our arrival in Jaipur. The route is common till Agra (with the Hyd-Del route) and hence posting it here instead of the other thread. Route was Hyderabad-Adilabad-Nagpur (butibori MIDC)-Seoni-Lakhnadon-Narsinghpur-Sagar-Jhansi-Gwalior-Agra-Bharatpur-Jaipur.

I hope this post will help others -

1. Day 1 (half day, really) - We left Hyderabad very late (4:15 pm) this Thursday. The 300 km to Adilabad is very good road. After the exit from ORR towards Nagpur (exit 6), there's a patch that goes through city conditions and that wastes a good half hour. Adilabad arrival at 9:15 pm. I suppose you could do less (I was driving at 80 kmph for the most time). Stayed at hotel Ravi Teja. It's avoidable but few options in the town except hotel Dwarka - car parking is on the road in that one hence we didnt stay there. It's not very different at Ravi Teja but the lot is much better lit.

2. Day 2 - Left Adilabad at 8:15 am, arriving in Butibori at 11:50 am. The road at border (pandharkawda in MH) is very bad. It gives way to craters large enough to ingest a small car like ours (Wagon R). I know that people have reported 6.5 hours from Hyd-Nagpur but I differ. It should be close to 8 hours without breaks.

Stopped at Vithal Kamat's (opposite Royal regency at MIDC) for a leisurely brunch. We left Butibori after one hour (12:45 pm) in the direction of Seoni. The turn for Seoni is at Jamtha - it's a very well designed and executed butterfly junction and one cant miss it. Excellent road for some more time. The road then deteriorates very badly when passing through buffer zone of Pench national park. We entered this area at 3:00 pm and were able to exit this stretch only at 5 pm, covering just 70 kms in this time. This stretch between Mansar (MH) and Rukhad (MP) is ill maintained and has heavy truck traffic due to logging activity as well as stoppages (for other vehicles) due to forest check posts.

After some hiccups finding the correct approach to Deepali Residency at Sagar, we were in our rooms a bit before 9 pm. Thus the 290 kms between Rukhad and Sagar were done in 3.5 hours flat. This included a 'stretch our legs break' at Narsinghpur and another to ask directions (phone ran out of charge and signage was confusing).

3. Day 3 - Left the hotel at Sagar at 10 am and after a refueling stop arrived in Datia at 1:00 pm. This included one photo stop en route and getting lost attempting to enter Datia. Good road most of the way. Quick sightseeing and lunch at Datia had us leaving only at 3 pm. The road after Datia goes from bad to worse and after Gwalior, there are parts where there are frequent diversions due to road being closed in one lane - thus turning a 4 lane to a 2 lane with no divider.

Sunset at Dholpur after we crossed the Chambal bridge and Rajasthan border. Dont know why they were stopping all cars (including passenger cars) entering in Rajasthan for checks. Anyways, we were let through fairly quickly.

The Agra entrance is a nightmare (I think HVK had warned me here or on fb?) - The bypass is far from complete. A helpful petrolpump attendant told us where to turn for Jaipur. This is the turn for Delhi as well to avoid entering Agra but useful I believe if you need to take NH2 and not the YEW. After the left turn, there're two parallel roads but due to no traffic controls, traffic flows in both directions on both roads. After 5 kms we reached a railway crossing.

The point below is useful if you're going to Jaipur from Agra.

After the crossing is the NH11 where we turned left for Bharatpur. At Bharatpur we stopped short of the main bypass chowk at hotel Geetanjali for dinner. Excellent food and lots of parking. The rooms are OK but a bit overpriced at Rs 2000. We could have stopped but i decided to push forward as being home is always more attractive.

Left Bharatpur at 9:30 pm and after a refueling stop (wasted 10 minutes as the pump was on the opposite side of the road and the turn was 1.5 kms ahead)- arrived home shortly after 12:00 am, covering this stretch in 3 kms. Am very familiar with this road portion of course and including the 'stretch your legs' stop, and avoiding the commotion at Sikandara crossing, this was a very comfortable drive with lots of reflectors and lights when the road crosses towns.

I recommend hotel Deepali at Sagar highly - they have a great garden restaurant with lots of games for children (car zone with striding cars) and a colored fountain (this is for dinner; breakfast and lunch is at their indoor restaurant which is nothing great as far as ambiance is concerned). Food's great and cheap (vegetarian). The rooms are recently renovated and well worth the money they charge. Lots of car parking on premises.

I equally cannot recommend hotel Ravi Teja at Adilabad and the drunk staff.

In Nagpur (butibori MIDC) Vithal Kamat is reasonable especially since you can combine it with a refueling stop at the pump where it is located.

Other hotel experiences as above.

Tolls appear to be more than Rs 1 per km in MP. We definitely paid more than Rs 1600 for the 1650 km trip (including non tolled roads) - TS and Raj are more reasonable. Car (Wagon R) returned an efficiency of 15.6 kmpl or maybe more with AC on throughout and over-loaded with luggage and 3 adults). Efficiency was lower than expected due to broken roads through Pench and at MH/TS border (I usually get 17 kmpl on highway with AC).

Cheers!
Vaibhav

[Landkruzer]

Thanks for the detailed report Vaibhav. I drove in this route 3 years back and looks like the bad sections remain as bad as they were.

Originally Posted by vaibhav_a_a

Sunset at Dholpur after we crossed the Chambal bridge and Rajasthan border. Dont know why they were stopping all cars (including passenger cars) entering in Rajasthan for checks. Anyways, we were let through fairly quickly.

The Agra entrance is a nightmare (I think HVK had warned me here or on fb?) - The bypass is far from complete. A helpful petrolpump attendant told us where to turn for Jaipur. This is the turn for Delhi as well to avoid entering Agra but useful I believe if you need to take NH2 and not the YEW. After the left turn, there're two parallel roads but due to no traffic controls, traffic flows in both directions on both roads. After 5 kms we reached a railway crossing.

Google maps shows a direct route from Dolpur to Bharatpur (NH 3A). Any idea about the road conditions in this route. If it is good and safe, it will be a good option to avoid Agra, if someone is heading to Jaipur.

[vaibhav_a_a]

Originally Posted by Landkruzer

Google maps shows a direct route from Dolpur to Bharatpur (NH 3A). Any idea about the road conditions in this route. If it is good and safe, it will be a good option to avoid Agra, if someone is heading to Jaipur.

Dholpur roads are bad (have tried to get to Gwalior on an earlier occasion). I actually didnt enter agra, if you look at the map, we went via NH11, bypassing Agra and went via Fatehpur Sikri.

Trust me, if there's a route in Rajasthan ex-Jaipur, I'd have tried it (for better or worse).