The Cricket Thread

vinod · 14th November 2005, 00:58

Hardly any chance of him making it back to the team. Especially, because the youngsters are doing pretty well. so there is no reason to keep them out..To be in the team, one has to be a good player, which Ganguly has been struggling with for quite sometime now. But at the same time, he is one of the players who has the capacity to bouce back.... as he is one of the few players who has 10,000 ODI runs.... but this is fading away as time goes.

tsk1979 · 14th November 2005, 11:32

I hope not

, we have seen enough of him

F50 · 14th November 2005, 20:21

Steve Waugh, the person who took Australia to that record of most consecutive test wins
One of the best captains ever… still he was dropped coz he was not performing and we all know if you are dropped from Australian side it is very difficult to come back and if aging then no chance.
With Greg Chappel as India’s coach that Aussie policy is going to be there… you don’t perform, you are out …
Unless he performs there’s no point coming back … new faces are performing well … its high time India stops selecting players on their past records.

nitrous · 14th November 2005, 23:02

Its next to impossible for him to get back in.

hianooo · 15th November 2005, 13:44

I think dada will be back soon, atleast in test team! I like his captancy and those glorious offside drives. Also "Dancing down the track" sixes!! We can expect some more..(???)

cheers
aNu

Sid Schumacher · 16th November 2005, 08:32

Ganguly may not be history as yet...but for now hes a gonner. Looks like the Prince has become a pauper for runs. His recent tiffs with the coach, his arrogance has got the better of him. he isnt the Ganguly we knew during the 1999 WC and isnt the same captain we knew...sure he has been the most successful captain and all, but rejoicing over a century after 'N' no. of test matches and against Zimbabwe!! now that dosent show his class. As rightly said by many people...I too think that Ganguly has been favouring a select few players more than the others.
He will surely come back...but not now.

Steeroid · 16th November 2005, 11:40

Well it looks like the team has come crashing back to reality....two more such shows and the same newspapers will bay for Chapell's blood. The aussie has NO idea what he's gotten himself into!

Hatari · 17th November 2005, 14:42

i hope he doesnt get back in..
no place for his politics and his amazingly big head..
his time's over

i think the board should organise a Sourav Ganguly benefit match

gkrishn · 21st November 2005, 20:10

http://cricket.expressindia.com/full...ntent_id=58698

Abhay · 22nd November 2005, 11:56

I like the guy, coz he was the first skipper who had 1 thing many others before lacked -
fighting spirit.

He never was a technically gifted player but had great instincts with the bat and as a captain and very determined as well.

I dont follow cricket like I used too, but I surprisingly dont care whether he makes it back in the team now coz I definitely like what Chappel is doing - looking to the future.

On that token I may not have the popular opinion but I also feel Tendulkar should concentrate on Test match cricket (the real thing...) and stay away from one dayers now. (in fact I have always said that Dravid is the better overall player than Sachin...not in his strokes, quality, fame but in his temperament and ability to save/win matches)
sorry for taking this off topic though :-)

2fast4yaa · 22nd November 2005, 13:34

i liked cricket when the players played for fun and for the love of the game and also a bit of charity.But when we mix other factors in the game it loses its touch which leads to confusion and cotroversaries.....

karl.

krish.sathish · 22nd November 2005, 13:47

Gumbir is awesome in confidence and skill. I liked Raina's approach too... Should give these guys a chance out of india and judge though.... They can potentially keep ganguly at bay ! Ganguly thoroughly deserves an explusion for his attitude and arrogance more than his game.

krish.sathish · 22nd November 2005, 13:49

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Originally Posted by krish.sathish

Gumbir is awesome in confidence and skill. I liked Raina's approach too... Should give these guys a chance out of india and judge though.... They can potentially keep ganguly at bay ! Ganguly thoroughly deserves an explusion for his attitude and arrogance more than his game.

oh.. btw, I am looking at ganguly's return as just a player and not a captain.. hence the comparison between him and few others... He should never fit in as a captain unless he changes his attitude and approach towards the game/team.

ac 427 · 22nd November 2005, 13:58

the guy should be back in the team, but you JUST cannot be in the team for being a CAPTAIN, you need to MAKE RUNS, which mr ganguly is NOT doing.

Agreed all the points, the guys got aggresion, attitude, takes care of younger breeds, but YOU HAVE TO PROOVE YOURSELF AGAIN AND AGIAN and keep on performing. you just cant sit on facts n figures.

Its good tht hes out, thts a strong message that has been put up. Perform or be sacked.

Samurai · 23rd November 2005, 19:19

Damn! Ganguly is back in the Test team, now the pressure will be on the coach and captain to pick Ganguly for every match, irrespective of his form.

14th November 2005, 00:58	#16
vinod BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 131 Thanked: 9 Times	Hardly any chance of him making it back to the team. Especially, because the youngsters are doing pretty well. so there is no reason to keep them out..To be in the team, one has to be a good player, which Ganguly has been struggling with for quite sometime now. But at the same time, he is one of the players who has the capacity to bouce back.... as he is one of the few players who has 10,000 ODI runs.... but this is fading away as time goes.
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14th November 2005, 11:32	#17
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	I hope not , we have seen enough of him
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14th November 2005, 20:21	#18
F50 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai/USA Posts: 1,707 Thanked: 103 Times	Steve Waugh, the person who took Australia to that record of most consecutive test wins One of the best captains ever… still he was dropped coz he was not performing and we all know if you are dropped from Australian side it is very difficult to come back and if aging then no chance. With Greg Chappel as India’s coach that Aussie policy is going to be there… you don’t perform, you are out … Unless he performs there’s no point coming back … new faces are performing well … its high time India stops selecting players on their past records.
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14th November 2005, 23:02	#19
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Its next to impossible for him to get back in.
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15th November 2005, 13:44	#20
hianooo BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kochi, nw in Bangalore... Posts: 66 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	I think dada will be back soon, atleast in test team! I like his captancy and those glorious offside drives. Also "Dancing down the track" sixes!! We can expect some more..(???) cheers aNu
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16th November 2005, 08:32	#21
Sid Schumacher BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 262 Thanked: 3 Times	Ganguly may not be history as yet...but for now hes a gonner. Looks like the Prince has become a pauper for runs. His recent tiffs with the coach, his arrogance has got the better of him. he isnt the Ganguly we knew during the 1999 WC and isnt the same captain we knew...sure he has been the most successful captain and all, but rejoicing over a century after 'N' no. of test matches and against Zimbabwe!! now that dosent show his class. As rightly said by many people...I too think that Ganguly has been favouring a select few players more than the others. He will surely come back...but not now.
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16th November 2005, 11:40	#22
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	Well it looks like the team has come crashing back to reality....two more such shows and the same newspapers will bay for Chapell's blood. The aussie has NO idea what he's gotten himself into!
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17th November 2005, 14:42	#23
Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,872 Thanked: 874 Times	i hope he doesnt get back in.. no place for his politics and his amazingly big head.. his time's over i think the board should organise a Sourav Ganguly benefit match
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21st November 2005, 20:10	#24
gkrishn BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 626 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	Don't beg, make runs: Kapil http://cricket.expressindia.com/full...ntent_id=58698
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22nd November 2005, 11:56	#25
Abhay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 727 Thanked: 11 Times	I like the guy, coz he was the first skipper who had 1 thing many others before lacked - fighting spirit. He never was a technically gifted player but had great instincts with the bat and as a captain and very determined as well. I dont follow cricket like I used too, but I surprisingly dont care whether he makes it back in the team now coz I definitely like what Chappel is doing - looking to the future. On that token I may not have the popular opinion but I also feel Tendulkar should concentrate on Test match cricket (the real thing...) and stay away from one dayers now. (in fact I have always said that Dravid is the better overall player than Sachin...not in his strokes, quality, fame but in his temperament and ability to save/win matches) sorry for taking this off topic though :-)
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22nd November 2005, 13:34	#26
2fast4yaa Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: bombay Posts: 3 Thanked: Once	i liked cricket when the players played for fun and for the love of the game and also a bit of charity.But when we mix other factors in the game it loses its touch which leads to confusion and cotroversaries..... karl.
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22nd November 2005, 13:47	#27
krish.sathish BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 99 Thanked: 72 Times	Gumbir is awesome in confidence and skill. I liked Raina's approach too... Should give these guys a chance out of india and judge though.... They can potentially keep ganguly at bay ! Ganguly thoroughly deserves an explusion for his attitude and arrogance more than his game.
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22nd November 2005, 13:58	#29
ac 427 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,393 Thanked: 244 Times View My Garage	the guy should be back in the team, but you JUST cannot be in the team for being a CAPTAIN, you need to MAKE RUNS, which mr ganguly is NOT doing. Agreed all the points, the guys got aggresion, attitude, takes care of younger breeds, but YOU HAVE TO PROOVE YOURSELF AGAIN AND AGIAN and keep on performing. you just cant sit on facts n figures. Its good tht hes out, thts a strong message that has been put up. Perform or be sacked.
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23rd November 2005, 19:19	#30
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,826 Thanked: 45,513 Times View My Garage	Damn! Ganguly is back in the Test team, now the pressure will be on the coach and captain to pick Ganguly for every match, irrespective of his form.
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