[karlosdeville]

Originally Posted by wasif

Cedric

I don't think AIB is from Hyderanad or AP as I grew up there and never say any cars with an AI reg.

AIS is from Assam so I feel AIB is also from Assam

AIA, AIB, AIS are positively Andhra Pradesh registrations, possibly Hyderabad. Case is point Gogi's 1956 Fiat was AIA registered from Hyderabad, originaly UP, re-registered in the 80s. Stanher also owned a Fiat AIS registered in Hyderabad.

[wasif]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

AIA, AIB, AIS are positively Andhra Pradesh registrations, possibly Hyderabad. Case is point Gogi's 1956 Fiat was AIA registered from Hyderabad, originaly UP, re-registered in the 80s. Stanher also owned a Fiat AIS registered in Hyderabad.

Thats strange cause I have seen pics of an Assam regestered car bearing the AIS plate.

AIA is Hyderabad from the eighties also AHA but I have never seen AIB out there.

Also I don't think thre was any 3.4 Mark 2 out there

[Stanher]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

AIA, AIB, AIS are positively Andhra Pradesh registrations, possibly Hyderabad. Case is point Gogi's 1956 Fiat was AIA registered from Hyderabad, originaly UP, re-registered in the 80s. Stanher also owned a Fiat AIS registered in Hyderabad.

Exactly! Gogi's fiat AIA was registered thus in Secunderabad though.

You'll remember that I also earlier owned a Pennant with AIS regn....plus I also used to see a black mk3 (4-door) Herald in my old colony AIS 7225, around a decade ago!
No pics. of it I'm afraid though! 'never seen that car around again either.

Originally Posted by wasif

Thats strange cause I have seen pics of an Assam regestered car bearing the AIS plate.
AIA is Hyderabad from the eighties also AHA but I have never seen AIB out there.

AIB is very much a Hyd. regn., I've seen many post '85 vehicles with that regns. So is AIS, as karl said, and even AHS.

[IndrojitSircar]

Originally Posted by wasif

Also I don't think thre was any 3.4 Mark 2 out there

- Does out there reffer to being there in Andhra or what ? Kindly specify.

[wasif]

Originally Posted by Stanher

Exactly! Gogi's fiat AIA was registered thus in Secunderabad though.

You'll remember that I also earlier owned a Pennant with AIS regn....plus I also used to see a black mk3 (4-door) Herald in my old colony AIS 7225, around a decade ago!
No pics. of it I'm afraid though! 'never seen that car around again either.


AIB is very much a Hyd. regn., I've seen many post '85 vehicles with that regns. So is AIS, as karl said, and even AHS.

Oh then this Jag must be the Sahaneys car that was in a factory in Secbad forever.

That was the only Jag in Hyderabad that I never got to see personally

[IndrojitSircar]

Originally Posted by wasif

AIS is from Assam so I feel AIB is also from Assam

Which year was this series in commission ? Assam also had ASE which i have seen on a Ford consul.

[Stanher]

It is unlikely that the same exact series would serve in 2 states in India simultaneously. I have seen both AIB and AIS used in AP (Hyd.) only, so it is ruled out that these 2 belong to Assam.

[sabinesnubbing]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Cedric - any idea where the BMA series were issued? It is obviously part of the erstwhile Bombay Presidency, and BMC, BMF, BML etc are still valid. Never seen BMA, BMB cars recently, only in old photos. I assume they were issued in what is now Gujarat state (Ahmedabad, Surat, Baroda etc).

In a similar fashion, BYH, BYK, BYF etc were and still are vaild for parts of Maharasthra, and BYC, BYB etc were probably issued in Gujarat.

Karl,
I have not seen any photos of BMA or BMB! I have pictures of most of the rest of BM but I had assumed A and B were never issued.
From what I can work out, BMT was issued as public transport (buses and taxis) in Bombay city in 1939 and BMW and then BMX were similarly for private vehicles. When the 1947 series started, I think they issued most of the rest of the BM series but I have no pictures of BMA, B, D, E, G, I, J, K, M, N, O or V. I would guess some were commercials only but if anyone has any photos they can share of these missing ones, that would be great.

On BY, the only ones I have listed are
BYA Ahmedabad
BYF, H Poona private
BYJ Nagpur private
BYL Poona commercial
BYY Nagpur commercial

I guess if BYA was Ahmedabad, logically (can we apply logic to these old plate series??) BMA might have been also. Maybe. If we then stretch logic to breaking point........BMB and BYB could have been Baroda.
Can anyone add to or correct these wild assumptions?
Cheers
Cedric

[karlosdeville]

Originally Posted by sabinesnubbing

Karl,
I have not seen any photos of BMA or BMB! I have pictures of most of the rest of BM but I had assumed A and B were never issued.
From what I can work out, BMT was issued as public transport (buses and taxis) in Bombay city in 1939 and BMW and then BMX were similarly for private vehicles. When the 1947 series started, I think they issued most of the rest of the BM series but I have no pictures of BMA, B, D, E, G, I, J, K, M, N, O or V. I would guess some were commercials only but if anyone has any photos they can share of these missing ones, that would be great.

On BY, the only ones I have listed are
BYA Ahmedabad
BYF, H Poona private
BYJ Nagpur private
BYL Poona commercial
BYY Nagpur commercial

I guess if BYA was Ahmedabad, logically (can we apply logic to these old plate series??) BMA might have been also. Maybe. If we then stretch logic to breaking point........BMB and BYB could have been Baroda.
Can anyone add to or correct these wild assumptions?
Cheers
Cedric

BMA and BMB vehicles were seen in the Richard Attenborough classic flick 'Gandhi'. (BMA 204 - Morris 8 cabrio and BMB 210 Ford Model A bus). Being a movie, the registrations may not necessarily be authentic.

Also I have seen a photo from the 70s/80s of a BMA registered Ford Model A. A BMV registered Jawa motorcycle was recently posted by Harit.

I also have somewhere a relatively recent photo of some british bike (partly visible) with the registration BMN 1228

Also another strange one was BYE 6*** that I saw recently on a british bike in Pune.

[sabinesnubbing]

Karl,
I have always wondered about those Ghandi film vehicles. I have discounted them to be honest as I don't think anyone knows if they are real numbers. Does anyone know where they film makers got the vehicles from?
I saw the picture of Harit's BMV and Harit thought it was probably a 1940s photo which might mean that BMW, BMX and BMV were issued between 1939 and 1947.
Harit, you will have to go out and find more of the great old vehicle photos you seem to manage to unearth and we will keep our fingers crossed for some BMA and BMB photos eventually.
Cheers
Cedric

[harit]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

BMA and BMB vehicles were seen in the Richard Attenborough classic flick 'Gandhi'. (BMA 204 - Morris 8 cabrio and BMB 210 Ford Model A bus). Being a movie, the registrations may not necessarily be authentic.

Also I have seen a photo from the 70s/80s of a BMA registered Ford Model A. A BMV registered Jawa motorcycle was recently posted by Harit.

I also have somewhere a relatively recent photo of some british bike (partly visible) with the registration BMN 1228

Also another strange one was BYE 6*** that I saw recently on a british bike in Pune.

I am doubtful that BMA & BMB existed. Because there is no real proof. If we have a old black + white photos of several vehicles showing such series, then we can accept that these existed. If a car is seen with such a number today, then I would like to see the registration book.
That one pic of BMV is genuine, there are several pictures, but only of one bike. I would like to see this registration series on other vehicles too.
I remember seeing BMN as temporary registration numbers on Ambassador cars in Mumbai in the 1970's.

Originally Posted by sabinesnubbing

Karl,
I have always wondered about those Ghandi film vehicles. I have discounted them to be honest as I don't think anyone knows if they are real numbers. Does anyone know where they film makers got the vehicles from?
I saw the picture of Harit's BMV and Harit thought it was probably a 1940s photo which might mean that BMW, BMX and BMV were issued between 1939 and 1947.
Harit, you will have to go out and find more of the great old vehicle photos you seem to manage to unearth and we will keep our fingers crossed for some BMA and BMB photos eventually.
Cheers
Cedric

Yes, I keep looking for pics, shall post when I find these series.
I still feel that it went like BMW, BMX. BMY, BMZ, BMC, BMF, BML and last BMU for non commercial vehicles. Where did BMV fit in? I am not sure, but a Jawa bike of the late 1950's with a BMV as the last BM series would fit.

Cheers harit

[anjan_c2007]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Also another strange one was BYE 6*** that I saw recently on a british bike in Pune.

The brand new Fiats from Kurla Mumbai had the yellow with red alphanumericals BYE number plates even after Maharashtra was formed.
Ambassadors had the WGK yellow plates.

[sabinesnubbing]

Gents,
I have been really stupid! They way I file my photos, I have the temporary and dealer plates at the end. On looking in there, I find photos of......
dealer (white on red with a letter at the end (nearly always)):
BMN 156B
temporary (red on yellow)
BMB 234

Stupid boy that I am sometimes.

Interesting to see anjan_c2007 comments on BYE and WGK being temporary series also.
Excellent; together we can actually get to the truth it seems.
Cheers
Cedric

[anjan_c2007]

Originally Posted by anjan_c2007

The brand new Fiats from Kurla Mumbai had the yellow with red alphanumericals BYE number plates even after Maharashtra was formed.
Ambassadors had the WGK yellow plates.

Interesting to see anjan_c2007 comments on BYE and WGK being temporary series also.
Excellent; together we can actually get to the truth it seems.
Cheers
Cedric

And the Mahindra Jeeps (also the Jeep and Willys) had the temporary MRB plates (yellow plate with red alphanumericals).

[jeepster]

a slight OT question - is it possible to transfer old bike vip reg. no. to new bike or car?

BTW i live in maharashtra.