Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q!

Rshrey22 · 1st March 2018, 20:17

Hello guys,

It's been around 5 years since we bought our Swift Dzire in 2012. The car has been very reliable and dependable for all purposes, whether running errands or going on outstation trips, BUT one thing that has always irritated us are the stock Nippon speakers.

They are a set of below average sounding speakers that are just doing their job (producing sound) and nothing else. Shallow bass, tinny treble and no mids.

It's time to get rid of them for good. I don't really want to go over the top with all the high end component speakers, amplifiers and woofers. I am looking for a plug and play upgrade.

Can anybody suggest a good set of Coaxial speakers which can replace the stock ones? I am willing to spend around 6000-8000/- per pair.

pedrolourenco · 1st March 2018, 20:55

I have a Blaupunkt Hamburg MP57 HU lying at home along with a set of ovals which I had removed from my Petra. I'm planning to install the same in an Alto. The problem is the external mic (see pic) is damaged and I'm unable to find a replacement. Any idea where I can get one? Alternatively is it possible to add some other mic to this HU? I was thinking of mics available for computers etc.

Sawyer · 3rd March 2018, 07:21

I recently obtained much better audio performance in the front seats from a JBL Flip 3, compared to the after market install in the car. I believe that not being trapped inside the car body had a lot to do with this - apart from the fact that the JBL incorporates all the recent improvements in tech, that are still on going, where such devices are concerned. In comparison I think that car audio tech is pretty much stagnant.

I need to see how to get the latest such speaker and make a convenient mount for it in the car, and use it regularly. And change it out every couple of years when an audibly better one comes.

The nice thing about this is that the only electrical interface with the car is in the running of the cable to the charger socket, so no worries about warranty issues or wiring integrity/load on the car battery. And these speakers are also now available to be used a stereo pair. The Minirig 2 pair that I use away from home is a brilliant example.

veeru27 · 3rd March 2018, 11:54

@pedrolourenco

https://www.amazon.in/Universal-Pion.../dp/B074FR41Q2.

navin · 3rd March 2018, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rshrey22

They are a set of below average sounding speakers that are just doing their job (producing sound) and nothing else. Shallow bass, tinny treble and no mids.

Can anybody suggest a good set of Coaxial speakers which can replace the stock ones? I am willing to spend around 6000-8000/- per pair.

Look at Focal, Morel, DLS, Rainbow what are warmer than the typical OEM speaker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedrolourenco

The problem is the external mic (see pic) is damaged and I'm unable to find a replacement. Any idea where I can get one? Alternatively is it possible to add some other mic to this HU? I was thinking of mics available for computers etc.

I suppose any mono mic with a mono "EP" connector will work. I do not know if it will work as efficiently as the original because there might be some impedance mismatch so you might have to try out a few mics.

Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Pio...reo+microphone

pedrolourenco · 3rd March 2018, 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

I suppose any mono mic with a mono "EP" connector will work. I do not know if it will work as efficiently as the original because there might be some impedance mismatch so you might have to try out a few mics.

Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Pio...reo+microphone

I found this on the Amazon India site:
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B01...A2JS8RQLR2HJU1

Is this suitable?

navin · 6th March 2018, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedrolourenco

I found this on the Amazon India site:
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B01...A2JS8RQLR2HJU1

Is this suitable?

Yes that should work. It is a mono EP pin.

nitinralli · 7th March 2018, 14:53

Just got Innova Crysta GX model and hence looking out for Touch screen head-unit which has Apple carplay for sure. Saw reviews of Pionner AVH5090BT below in one of the threads but it has issues with Apple phones so any other unit i can look for? Any unit in Alpine series?

navin · 7th March 2018, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitinralli

Just got Innova Crysta GX model and hence looking out for Touch screen head-unit which has Apple carplay for sure. Saw reviews of Pionner AVH5090BT below in one of the threads but it has issues with Apple phones so any other unit i can look for? Any unit in Alpine series?

I did not know the 5090BT has had trouble with iPhones. Where did you read this?

nitinralli · 7th March 2018, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

I did not know the 5090BT has had trouble with iPhones. Where did you read this?

I mean to say it was having issues with Navigation when it came to Ipones.
Has it been worked out now?

This was the thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...onda-city.html

navin · 7th March 2018, 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitinralli

I mean to say it was having issues with Navigation when it came to Ipones.
Has it been worked out now?

This was the thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...onda-city.html

I don't know enough to answer that. I use Google Maps for navigation.

SPARKled · 7th March 2018, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitinralli

Just got Innova Crysta GX model and hence looking out for Touch screen head-unit which has Apple carplay for sure. Saw reviews of Pionner AVH5090BT below in one of the threads but it has issues with Apple phones so any other unit i can look for? Any unit in Alpine series?

I have this HU installed on my new Crysta. Apple car play works but I haven't been able to make android auto work with my Honor 6X. I belive its a phone problem than anything else. On connecting to the HU it stays in charging mode and AA just doesn't work. At other times I get the infamous pull handbrake to start AA. In short AA just doesn't work for me. I even have tuner issues which needs a change of antenna which I plan to do soon. But I have installed Focal K6 power components and the sound is outstanding.

nitinralli · 7th March 2018, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

I don't know enough to answer that. I use Google Maps for navigation.

Any feedback on Alpine CDE W265EBT? Heard its real great in terms of music quality if a person is ready to sacrifice touchscreen gimmicks.

straight6 · 8th March 2018, 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitinralli

Any feedback on Alpine CDE W265EBT? Heard its real great in terms of music quality if a person is ready to sacrifice touchscreen gimmicks.

Yes, its a good hu. Go for it.

navin · 8th March 2018, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitinralli

Any feedback on Alpine CDE W265EBT? Heard its real great in terms of music quality if a person is ready to sacrifice touchscreen gimmicks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by straight6

Yes, its a good hu. Go for it.

Straight 6 has answered your question. The last Alpine HU I had was the 9835. Since then when ICE was overtaken by ICI (In Car Infotainment) I have used the OEM HU and an external processor like the Alpine 650 or 800 or Audison Bit 10 or Bit 1 to get the best of both worlds.

1st March 2018, 20:17	#13591
Rshrey22 BHPian Join Date: May 2017 Location: Delhi Posts: 371 Thanked: 726 Times	Re: Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q! Hello guys, It's been around 5 years since we bought our Swift Dzire in 2012. The car has been very reliable and dependable for all purposes, whether running errands or going on outstation trips, BUT one thing that has always irritated us are the stock Nippon speakers. They are a set of below average sounding speakers that are just doing their job (producing sound) and nothing else. Shallow bass, tinny treble and no mids. It's time to get rid of them for good. I don't really want to go over the top with all the high end component speakers, amplifiers and woofers. I am looking for a plug and play upgrade. Can anybody suggest a good set of Coaxial speakers which can replace the stock ones? I am willing to spend around 6000-8000/- per pair.
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pedrolourenco Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Margao, Goa Posts: 1,477 Thanked: 2,064 Times View My Garage	Re: Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q! I have a Blaupunkt Hamburg MP57 HU lying at home along with a set of ovals which I had removed from my Petra. I'm planning to install the same in an Alto. The problem is the external mic (see pic) is damaged and I'm unable to find a replacement. Any idea where I can get one? Alternatively is it possible to add some other mic to this HU? I was thinking of mics available for computers etc. Attached Thumbnails
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3rd March 2018, 07:21	#13593
Sawyer Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 2,666 Thanked: 1,793 Times	Re: Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q! I recently obtained much better audio performance in the front seats from a JBL Flip 3, compared to the after market install in the car. I believe that not being trapped inside the car body had a lot to do with this - apart from the fact that the JBL incorporates all the recent improvements in tech, that are still on going, where such devices are concerned. In comparison I think that car audio tech is pretty much stagnant. I need to see how to get the latest such speaker and make a convenient mount for it in the car, and use it regularly. And change it out every couple of years when an audibly better one comes. The nice thing about this is that the only electrical interface with the car is in the running of the cable to the charger socket, so no worries about warranty issues or wiring integrity/load on the car battery. And these speakers are also now available to be used a stereo pair. The Minirig 2 pair that I use away from home is a brilliant example. Last edited by Sawyer : 3rd March 2018 at 07:39.
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veeru27 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yercaud/Salem/Bangy Posts: 35 Thanked: 71 Times	Re: Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q! @pedrolourenco https://www.amazon.in/Universal-Pion.../dp/B074FR41Q2. Last edited by veeru27 : 3rd March 2018 at 11:56.
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7th March 2018, 14:53	#13598
nitinralli Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,531 Thanked: 1,117 Times View My Garage	Re: Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q! Just got Innova Crysta GX model and hence looking out for Touch screen head-unit which has Apple carplay for sure. Saw reviews of Pionner AVH5090BT below in one of the threads but it has issues with Apple phones so any other unit i can look for? Any unit in Alpine series?
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