[viXit]

Originally Posted by shipnil

The speed 100 mbps or 1 Gbps refer to "ceiling" of the WAN and LAN port of the router and not the "floor". So your 100 mbps router cannot support 200 mbps connection from the ISP.

I understand this.
I was referring to this statement.

Originally Posted by diyguy

If you dont have a gigabit router/switch, your ethernet cable will only receive a max of 100Mbps bandwidth, though you may have a faster plan from your ISP.

Because as far as I understand, It's called gigabit after 1000, and not after 100 megabits.

I have an apartment similar to yours in size. Have been doing testing with various locations, antenna orientation etc. For a very high speed over wifi, we need to use 5ghz only.

A very crude test that I just performed showed me that streaming 4k video 60 frames per second consumes just about 50 megabits per second, sometimes spiking to 80Mbps to buffer a little more at a time.
Wireless standards that are on 2.4 Ghz routers allow a maximum of 600 Mbps. With most having a ceiling of 300Mbps. Shouldn't this prove that even 50% signal integrity of a 2.4 ghz signal is enough to stream video?





I will also say this. My 2.4 Ghz router rated at 300mbps gives me just about 50mbps even if I'm sitting right on top of it

Contrary to what internet says about 1600 sqft home needing a medium category router, the Indian construction adds another dimension of concrete walls. All those articles mostly refer to western apartments when they say 1 centrally placed good router would be enough as they have mostly wooden construction of inside walls.

I agree, I want drywall and wood walls in my house so badly, imagine all the wires beautifully hidden within them. so nice.

For our concrete walls, based on my crude tests, I feel the centrally placed router does not give very high throughput or signal quality through concrete walls. I am using Wifi Analyzer app to measure strength but beyond concrete walls, even 5 to 6 feet away, the signal drops to less than -70dB. For streaming videos, you need to have consistent -67dB or higher. Even in the same room, if the distance is 15 ft plus, the 5 Ghz strength drops considerably but if LoS is there, it is able to stream videos.

What resolution, framerate, compression etc. are these videos of??
I am comfortably able to stream video over 15 feet distance on my poverty spec router dlink dir 615 despite the putrid link speeds.


My house had a really bad placement of all the networking cables in the corner of the hall, We ran conduits to the middle/dining room and placed the router there. It sits 8feet up in the air on top of a tv cabinet. It is right where the doors of the three bedrooms are situated, so although there is no LoS, there is a pretty straight shot entry of signals into the rooms, but it is W-E-A-K as I go deeper into the bedrooms or the balconies, although it's still connected. The kitchen, dining and hall area are all open with no walls in between so that is sorted.

I generated a heatmap with a wifi analyzer app and one of the deductions I made was that the coverage is good, but the link speeds are bad. I just needed an upgrade which will give me a good 100mbps Link (phone to router) around the house, so that there is no bottleneck for my 100mbps internet plan.

So if you expect good quality signals, I think a mesh setup would be required but they are not available in 5k price band.

We have a dlink repeater in one of the bedrooms since the router can't reach deep enough for the tv in the corner of the bedroom to work, and it's been unreliable with every device except the TV for some reason, I think it has something to do with IP address allotment. But ever since then, I have lost faith in several routers, repeaters or mesh setups.

Is the link between the main router and the nodes of the mesh system good enough to give me the same speeds across all the routers??

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by xotiq

Can someone guide me with this. Our farm house first floor has pathetic wifi coverage, I am planning to connect an ethernet cable from our OFC modem (GPON) to another wifi router kept on the first floor and configure. Will this plan work, any suggestions please? Also, I have a ADSL modem lying idle, this does not have a WAN port (internet source) but only LAN ports 1-4. My question is, can i use the ADSL wifi router as incoming wired source from OFC modem and configure the ADSL wifi router (without a WAN port), as a repeater?

You can definitely do it. Just ensure that you use a high quality CAT 6 cable and the cable length should not exceed 300 Feet.

Unfortunately, you cannot use the ADSL model. Buy a decent TP Link or D Link router with dual band and dual antenna and you should be set.

Hide the cable from direct sunlight. The normal LAN cables go bad with continued exposure to sunlight. Identify the areas where the wire is exposed and cover that part with flexible electrical tube.

[deathwalkr]

Originally Posted by viXit

We have a dlink repeater in one of the bedrooms since the router can't reach deep enough for the tv in the corner of the bedroom to work, and it's been unreliable with every device except the TV for some reason, I think it has something to do with IP address allotment. But ever since then, I have lost faith in several routers, repeaters or mesh setups.

Is the link between the main router and the nodes of the mesh system good enough to give me the same speeds across all the routers??

I think the repeater eats up half of your bandwidth...

As for mesh, am a recent entrant into that area and i must say i am happy. I got two Asus AC59U (v2) routers and setting up mesh was a breeze with their app. Now i have full house coverage and good speeds. Haven't really tried what maximum speeds i can get at the weakest spots...

All in all for 10k, am satisfied. Would have been much cheaper to run cables around but was lazy and didn't want people running up and down the house in these covid times

[binand]

Originally Posted by viXit

Because as far as I understand, It's called gigabit after 1000, and not after 100 megabits.

Yes, 1 Gbps = 1000 Mbps (or is it 1024? Doesn't matter). Pretty much any cable manufactured after 1999 or so would be capable of delivering that much bandwidth. What actually decides are the two devices that sit at the two ends of that cable - what they are capable of. Those two go through a negotiation process and arrive at a consensus speed.

Here is grab from my home router.



As you can see, different ports are negotiated to different speeds (my Airtel uplink is port #2, btw. Because I have FTTH, the limiting factor here is my router's limit of 1 Gbps).

Originally Posted by viXit

Wireless standards that are on 2.4 Ghz routers allow a maximum of 600 Mbps. With most having a ceiling of 300Mbps.

I will also say this. My 2.4 Ghz router rated at 300mbps gives me just about 50mbps even if I'm sitting right on top of it.

Not just the frequency, but the underlying protocol (which of 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac) also has a say in the speed. The 300 Mbps announced limit basically means that the router supports up to 802.11n, but if your laptop/phone doesn't support it, then the connection might be just 802.11g whose max speed is only 54 Mbps. Here is a chart:

Originally Posted by viXit

Shouldn't this prove that even 50% signal integrity of a 2.4 ghz signal is enough to stream video?

Even minor issues in signal integrity will compromise streaming video quality very badly. This is because they all use streaming video codecs that, shorn of most of the technical details, transmit each frame as a delta from the previous frame. So unless the frames arrive in exact sequence, streaming video cannot function. And minor problems in signal quality will result in dropped frames which means that such frames have to be re-requested and received before the video playback can continue - resulting in "loading" or "buffering" views.

[avimal]

Why does 2.4 GHz provide less speed ( 50 Mbps) but 5 GHz provide good speed ( 200 Mbps). I have 300 Mbps plan from ACT. I have ac1200 router which supports higher speed. I am scratching my head over this for last 2 days.

As per standards, 2.4 GHz can support excess of 300 Mbps speed.

Can ISP throttle based on 2.4 g vs 5 g session?

[tsk1979]

I have a TP Link Nano router. I has many modes, and 2 which interest me

ETH mode, where you plugin a eth cable from the modem, and it works like normal router
Hotspot mote, where you plugin nothing, you connect to a WIFI network, eg a LTE modem or phone, and then it creates a wifi network where multiple devices can connect and use the internet.

In the Hotspot mode, I can connect multiple devices, but I cannot do remote desktop between the devices. Its like both devices cannot see each other. Client isolation is off.

So I have PC1 and PC2 connected to wifi created by TP Link router. The TP link router is connected to a network called "LTE". Both devices surf the internet fine, but when I try to view PC1 on PC2 remote desktop, it does not work.

ETH mode everything is fine. Any ideas? Again, Client isolation is disabled, I checked in settings
The router is - (TL-WR902AC)

[smartindboy]

Originally Posted by avimal

Why does 2.4 GHz provide less speed ( 50 Mbps) but 5 GHz provide good speed ( 200 Mbps). I have 300 Mbps plan from ACT. I have ac1200 router which supports higher speed. I am scratching my head over this for last 2 days.

As per standards, 2.4 GHz can support excess of 300 Mbps speed.

Can ISP throttle based on 2.4 g vs 5 g session?

Pls google for b+g+n.
Set your router band to use G only or N only to check if the speeds improve.

[abhi7013]

Am not sure whether this query has been posted or not. I have bought the Tplink c6 gigabit router and have subscribed to a 100mbps plan.

I get the full speed on the 5ghz band but it drops by 50-60% on the 2.4ghz band (around 45-50mbps). Is there any setting which i can fiddle with to get the full 100mbps on the 2.4 band?
Or is it common for the speed to drop in the 2.4ghz band?

[viXit]

Guys,

Just ordered this.
In the interest of future proofing, I looked for a wifi 6 router in my budget of 5k.
Was it a good choice? think I should get something else?

What do you guys think?

[binand]

Originally Posted by viXit

In the interest of future proofing, I looked for a wifi 6 router in my budget of 5k.

It is not even a published standard, no? :-)

[viXit]

Originally Posted by binand

It is not even a published standard, no? :-)

Now I don't understand exactly how the benefits of wifi 6 translate to speeds. But big number=better performance, are you even Indian otherwise? That aside, If you have wifi 6 phones, switching between both the wifi network 5ghz and 2.4 is seamless I believe, and offers faster speeds.

Anything I get would be an upgrade from my ageing dir 615 but I don't want to have the thought in my mind about how I could've spent my money better

I agree, I have not done enough research on the product, I just set a budget and went for it.

This was my other contender, and IIRC another bhpian went for the asus router and is happy. I am not able to decide which one is better. I really am in the dark here.

[avimal]

Originally Posted by smartindboy

Pls google for b+g+n.
Set your router band to use G only or N only to check if the speeds improve.

My router is Asus ac1500 so this is not a problem. Asus support team is debugging it now.

[viXit]

My concerns vanish.

Received the router at around 9PM yesterday and spent a minute setting it up.
Actually there's no need for any setting up. Just download the dlink app and check for a software update. My update downloaded in a second and then took a minute to install.

The results are amazing. My internet plan is supposed to be for 125mbps but I'm hitting 230mbps on ookla's speedtest. I'm questioning it's authenticity now. But I opened my wifi performance and it was showing download 250mbps so I was convinced.

Netflix in the bedrooms is playing at full HD now without even a second of buffering. I fast forward to somewhere and it's already at 85% loading and before you know it, it starts streaming. Didn't realise we're paying netflix for nothing. It was streaming 720p till now. Although the dlink dir615 I was using previously was rated at 300mbps max, I never saw upwards of 70 on wifi.

What is weird is.
When I did a speedtest connecting to ethernet port one of my old dir615, it was 90mbps.

New DIR x1560 gave 90 mbps on ethernet too, But wifi speed is mindblowingly high. TWO hundred and thirty. while someone streams a movie on netflix.

THe netflix test twp rooms away gave 30mbps, which is plenty for 4k. But the TV is 1080p so it's good. But overall this router is FAST. I didn't realise how fast my internet connection is until I got this.

SOmeone tell me what could be the problem with ethernet, isn't it supposed to be faster than the wifi connection.

Could it be something I did wrong while crimping? I crimp my cables myself and use. Is running my cable alongside power lines causing any interference??

There's a cat 6 cable (4pair 8 cables) from a SWITCH (optical fiber) to my home.

Then there's a 2 pair cable I used for my bedroom ethernet run. Cat 5e UTP cable to my bedroom.

[binand]

Originally Posted by viXit

When I did a speedtest connecting to ethernet port one of my old dir615, it was 90mbps.

SOmeone tell me what could be the problem with ethernet, isn't it supposed to be faster than the wifi connection.

The DIR615 spec sheet (https://in.dlink.com/en/products/dir...ss-n300-router) says that all its ports - WAN and LAN are 10/100 Mbps. So you getting 90 Mbps with that is as intended.

[viXit]

Originally Posted by binand

The DIR615 spec sheet (https://in.dlink.com/en/products/dir...ss-n300-router) says that all its ports - WAN and LAN are 10/100 Mbps. So you getting 90 Mbps with that is as intended.

That was expected, Sir. And I had no problem. I was wondering why even the new router is giving me same speed.

Do you think there could be a setting I should change??