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Old 17th July 2020, 01:58   #91
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Looks quite good for a compact SUV but they should have changed that Datsun grille to a Nissan one. I remember there were reports here on team-bhp of an upcoming compact SUV from Datsun and this is definitely that with a Nissan badge slapped on.
This reminds too much of a Datsun which are synonymous with flimsy built cars and without a GNCAP rating, not going to plonk any money on this one(unless they manage to do something magical with the product).
Sorry Nissan, I badly want you to do well in India, least you could have done was to give it a Nissan grille.
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With a long way to go before its launch, the Magnite spied again on test.

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One of the drivetrain option of the Nissan Magnite would be the 1.0-litre DIG-T 117 PS engine that is currently available in 5th Gen Nissan Micra(Nissan Micra actually has two 1.0 turbo petrol options - the other one being 1.0-litre IG-T 100 PS in its portfolio)

Here is some detail about the engine.

"The new flagship in the Nissan Micra range is the 1.0-litre DIG-T 117 PS turbocharged petrol engine, linked to a more performance-oriented six-speed manual transmission.

It is not simply a retuned and more powerful version of the IG-T 100 PS unit, but a completely different engine. It has been developed by the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance in conjunction with Daimler, alongside the 1.3-litre petrol engine recently launched in the Nissan Qashqai crossover SUV.

Still with only three-cylinders, the DIG-T 117 PS engine is engineered to offer customers a more performance-oriented drive, with 180 Nm of torque plus an additional 20 Nm on the overboost.

Comparing the two new engines the 100 PS and the 117 PS the latter has noticeably more acceleration which is prolonged further through the rev range. There is obviously more power, but also more torque and with maximum output lower in the rev range (180 Nm at 1,750 rpm on the 117 PS, vs. 160 Nm at 2,750 rpm on the 100 PS). The result is a 0-100 km/h time of 9.9 seconds for the 117 PS, which is a full second faster than the 100 PS manual (10.9 seconds)."

"The new DIG-T 117 PS features a number of technical innovations which allow it to deliver a spirited performance while maintaining high fuel economy and low CO2 emissions. These include:

Delta Cylinder Head: a world first technology in a 1.0-litre petrol engine, this innovation creates a more compact and lightweight engine. The benefits of this are an increase in available impact protection space and greater freedom in the design of the car's bonnet.

Bore spray coating on the cylinders: as with the 100 PS engine, this is a world-first technology in a 1.0-litre petrol engine. Developed from the Nissan GT-R supercar, bore spray coating has already been integrated into other Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi powertrains, including the 1.3-litre petrol engine recently launched in the Nissan Qashqai crossover. Reducing the friction in the cylinder, the coating improves heat management and combustion, cuts weight and improves fuel economy and CO2 emissions.

Central Injector: in common with the 1.3-litre petrol engine recently launched on the Nissan Qashqai, this new Micra engine features an injector mounted centrally in the combustion chamber. Creating a more targeted fuel spray pattern, it prevents fuel from reaching the valves and spark plug resulting a better emissions performance. Fuel is supplied by a high pressure pump operating at 250 bar.

Turbocharger with electronically controlled waste gate: this technology provides improved control of the turbocharger, maximising engine response and efficiency

Electric turbo actuators: these provide a rapid and precise response from the turbo, improving power delivery.

Intake and exhaust variable valve timing: optimised control maximises performance and reduces emissions.

Gasoline particulate filter (GPF): a mandatory feature for all direct injection gasoline engines, the GPF ensures particulates making their way through the exhaust are in line with emissions regulations."



Source : https://europe.nissannews.com/en-GB/...ustomer-needs#
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Old 18th July 2020, 00:08   #94
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Central Injector: in common with the 1.3-litre petrol engine recently launched on the Nissan Qashqai, this new Micra engine features an injector mounted centrally in the combustion chamber. Creating a more targeted fuel spray pattern, it prevents fuel from reaching the valves and spark plug resulting a better emissions performance. Fuel is supplied by a high pressure pump operating at 250 bar.
I'm surprised they're introducing direct injection at this price point, but skimping out on a 6th gear.

The latter would provide a bigger boost to mileage and performance, I feel.
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Spotted this on an instagram page today.

Nissan Magnite spy pictures are out 2 days after the digital unveil.

These elements are evident on the test car :
-Black Cladding with Silver Skidplate
-Octagonal Grille similar to Datsun Models
-L Shaped chrome accents instead of DRLs and regular halogen headlamps suggest that this could not be the top end variant.

The link to the original post is given below :
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCwV__Rj...id=cj5sn2jei8w

The Nissan Magnite subcompact SUV-screenshot_20200718011506.jpg

The car looks great and will be a very important launch for Nissan to stay relevant in market. The spy shot suggests that production model will be very similar to digitally unveiled images.

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The car looks great and will be a very important launch for Nissan to stay relevant in market. The spy shot suggests that production model will be very similar to digitally unveiled images.
Love the styling for a reason, it looks almost 80% like the storm-edge Elantra, almost a c-c-p job, but for once Nissan has put out a sharp, great looking car, only hope their transmissions and interior quality (both of which are weaknesses) are top notch this time around.

The sub 4m SUV has a ton of competition with the XUV 300 leading the pack in terms of proportion, safety and value, the Brezza appealing to the budget conscious and Maruti fans, the Venue appealing to Hyundai fans not wanting an i20, and the Ecosport for Ford fans who want that mixture of drivability and solidity. Nissan will have to price it really well (low) and throw every feature possible, AND improve their service reputation if they want this to succeed. Like others have said, a much needed try from Nissan's end, let's hope it succeeds much better that Fiat's last try, the Evo/Avventura/Abarth.
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The Nissan Magnite has striking similarities to the Datsun Redi-Go; the headlight shape, grill and chrome insert on the lower half of the bumper

I guess this is the last try by Nissan in India; hope they throw everything into the car and price it well.
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Oh man, while it looks great, the styling similarities with Datsun worry me - What if the interior quality and fit and finish is also Datsun like?
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Spotted this on an instagram page today.

Nissan Magnite spy pictures are out 2 days after the digital unveil.
The grills and bumper design are an exact copy from datsun. Why do they do that . Does that mean, this is a rebadged datsun, (What I meant is that , build quality is not equal to a Nissan, but will be of a Datsun )?. That will be disappointing ..
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The grills and bumper design are an exact copy from datsun. Why do they do that . Does that mean, this is a rebadged datsun, (What I meant is that , build quality is not equal to a Nissan, but will be of a Datsun )?. That will be disappointing ..
The design is heavily inspired to Datsun Go Cross concept showcased some time back and the SUV is based on CMF A+ platform. Since Nissan is betting big on the SUV, I feel that it will be equiped with good interiors.
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For a brand that is hanging by a thin fiber in our market - how come nobody in the strategy/design unit warn against launching the most important car with a face of the Datsun Go?

Its a catastrophic mistake IMHO. Even the untrained eye cannot miss what it looks like. One just wouldn't feel like buying it even if everything else is best in class. What a bummer this from Nissan.
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For a brand that is hanging by a thin fiber in our market - how come nobody in the strategy/design unit warn against launching the most important car with a face of the Datsun Go?

Its a catastrophic mistake IMHO. Even the untrained eye cannot miss what it looks like. One just wouldn't feel like buying it even if everything else is best in class. What a bummer this from Nissan.
I doubt the refreshed Go will sell in large enough numbers for people to spot the similarities with this car. The common man will more likely think this is an Audi or Venue based on the grill.

Of course, the common man has a 100 reasons not to buy a Nissan no matter what, so this argument is for nought.
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The front is quite similar to the Audi RS7 launched recently and If Nissan just ditched the Chrome on the sides, It would look much better.
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With the current design it does look similar to the Datsun Redigo. Hope that they are able to change the front enough to differentiate the car from its Datsun brethren.
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For a brand that is hanging by a thin fiber in our market - how come nobody in the strategy/design unit warn against launching the most important car with a face of the Datsun Go?

Its a catastrophic mistake IMHO. Even the untrained eye cannot miss what it looks like. One just wouldn't feel like buying it even if everything else is best in class. What a bummer this from Nissan.
The car looks like a Datsun because it is a Datsun .

This car was earlier registered as the Datsun Magnite. Since the global plan to discontinue the Datsun brand came into place, they rebadged this as a Nissan.


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Oh man, while it looks great, the styling similarities with Datsun worry me - What if the interior quality and fit and finish is also Datsun like?
That's the million dollar question. It remains to be seen whether this is merely a rebadging or have they upped the quality as well. Anyway it'll have fierce competition form the Kiger and Tata HBX when its launched next year.
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For a brand that is hanging by a thin fiber in our market - how come nobody in the strategy/design unit warn against launching the most important car with a face of the Datsun Go?

Its a catastrophic mistake IMHO. Even the untrained eye cannot miss what it looks like. One just wouldn't feel like buying it even if everything else is best in class. What a bummer this from Nissan.

It does look like the Magnite was always meant to be part of the Datsun brand! So my guess is that Nissan originally planned this for Datsun, and probably when Nissan started to realise that both brands are staring at a crisis in India, they decided to shift focus on the Nissan brand. And they had no big plans for any new models, so like Renault, they seem to have now decided that they need to focus on low cost vehicles based on the CMF-A platform.

Its a pity, really! Renault has now positioned itself as a low cost brand in India, and now Nissan follow suit! Both these brands want to now occupy niche and cheaper slots below Maruti and Hyundai! So the Triber is several notches below the Ertiga, and now the Magnite and its Renault sibling will be slotted below the Brezza and possibly even the Nexon!

What good is it to occupy the same brand positioning, time after time? Initially they had clones of the Duster, Micra and the Sunny. I thought that was fine, but somewhere along the road they had to differentiate! A classic case study for Nissan and Renault is Hyundai and Kia. Although Kia was always going to use the same platforms and engines, they have successfully created a separate identity for themselves, thru design language and also by focusing on slightly different segments. Kia has not jumped on to the hatchback and Compact sedan segment and rather focused on the 10-20 lakh segment thru the Seltos and the upcoming Sonet. And they launched the Carnival as a perception builder, not necessarily to sell volumes. When people see the Carnival in the showroom, they start positioning Kia as a premium brand in their mind.

I wonder what would be the board meetings of Nissan look like! They should rather exit and focus on something else. Renault can continue in India making cars that are probably inferior to what even Dacia makes in Eastern European countries!
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