Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

iraghava · 12th May 2007, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Ishan suspects an overcharging alternator to be the problem, seems like it to me too. Now I dont know what to do, since if I use another battery, the car will start, but probably wreck the new battery by the time I get to the garage also. On the other hand, I dont know what else is left to be destroyed by the alternator that may happen once the car starts. Can anyone suggest a plan of action hereonwards? Does anyone know exactly what may cause the alternator to overcharge? I would guess it has something to do with the rectifier circuit or something. Any precautions for the future? I was damn lucky I had just removed some test audio gear from the car, otherwise it would have been far more devastating.

Ajay - Don't use the car over the weekend take the Corolla or a taxi. Monday first thing tow the car to a reputed garage which is an expert is electricals (Ask Elf for this, he knows about a good one I think) and have them check the alternator. I suspect your alternmator is giving out surges of current much higher than the 13-14V it's supposed to and that is causing the electricals to blow.

I'm spcifically asking you to tow the car because any further attempts at starting or driving it could lead to further part failures. And please get rid of the damn thing now!!! It's about time!

tsk1979 · 12th May 2007, 18:47

GEt the rectifier plate and the regulator checked. These parts fail commonly. Cost will be around 1000rs for replacement of both.
A new alternator costs 2500rs or whereabouts, so if the expenses are 1200+ go for a new alternator.
How old is this alternator.

low_bass_makker · 12th May 2007, 18:50

Ya Ishan you are right...normally if the car alternator give very high voltages about 30-40 volts if it is rotated at 3000-4000 rpm.....thats why there is a voltage regulation circuit present to drop the voltage so that it operates at 14 volts......now in the case when the regulation circuit fails the battery protects the car electricals by absorbing the high voltage....but battery cannot handle the high voltages for a long time....

Ajay Sir in your case it was the alternater which was giving out high voltages and the battery was holding till today till you heard the first pop....as the battery was gone the alternater was giving full voltages to every component of the vehicle which you operated.....you must tow your car to a good garage to get the alternator check else more thing are bound to get damage.....

low_bass_makker · 13th May 2007, 14:47

Guys any place from where I can get original HID (xenon) bulbs.....as I need only the bulbs not the ballast....

tsk1979 · 13th May 2007, 14:50

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

Guy any place from where I can get original HID (xenon) bulbs.....as I need only the bulbs not the ballast....

Original... What do you mean by original. Any particular brand in mind?

If you are just looking for bulbs - ballast, ebay is the best place to look.

low_bass_makker · 13th May 2007, 14:54

nahi yaar tanveer in delhi and around one can get only taiwan and chinese bulbs...I want philips, hella, osram type of some standard company stuff...

tsk1979 · 13th May 2007, 15:06

AFAIK, philips and hella do not sell bulbs, except to OEMs. So you may have to go for lesser known guys like GE/Havell etc., Try autobulbs.co.uk

Mugen_Power · 13th May 2007, 16:09

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

I want philips, hella, osram type of some standard company stuff...

LBM,

I have one contact in Bombay. You want one xenon Bulb ? H1 ?

shazikon · 13th May 2007, 16:11

Has any one used this?? Is this available in india??

Akshay1234 · 13th May 2007, 16:24

it dosent seem like a straight fit onto the ikon. it seems a bit big. i doubt youll get this in india.

shazikon · 13th May 2007, 16:32

well the website say its a direct fit.. This is actually used for the Fiesta MK5 (indian ikon) in UK.

Akshay1234 · 13th May 2007, 19:18

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Originally Posted by shazikon

well the website say its a direct fit.. This is actually used for the Fiesta MK5 (indian ikon) in UK.

cool. i guess i thought they were big because of the angle of the pic. i dont think youll get them in india. about 200pounds for these plus more shipping it to india. itll cost alot.

Proxima · 13th May 2007, 19:30

Hi guys,

I have a 04 model safari which has OE bulbs. I want to change it because I am not too happy with its power when there is oncoming traffic.

What do you suggest?

Shall I keep thsm as it is and add a pair of fog lamps(my LX does not come with one) or shall I change the bulb?

I think there are 2 bulbs in 2 enclosures, not like most other cars. Do I need to put in 2 pairs of bulbs?

Please suggest.

For whatever you sugggest, prices and where to get them in Chennai will be most welcome.

low_bass_makker · 13th May 2007, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

AFAIK, philips and hella do not sell bulbs, except to OEMs. So you may have to go for lesser known guys like GE/Havell etc., Try autobulbs.co.uk

from where can I get the above mentioned brands in india.....no website...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen_Power

LBM,

I have one contact in Bombay. You want one xenon Bulb ? H1 ?

sir i will call you for the info....

Proxima · 14th May 2007, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proxima

Hi guys,

I have a 04 model safari which has OE bulbs. I want to change it because I am not too happy with its power when there is oncoming traffic.

What do you suggest?

Shall I keep thsm as it is and add a pair of fog lamps(my LX does not come with one) or shall I change the bulb?

I think there are 2 bulbs in 2 enclosures, not like most other cars. Do I need to put in 2 pairs of bulbs?

Please suggest.

For whatever you sugggest, prices and where to get them in Chennai will be most welcome.

Gurus please help!!!!!

12th May 2007, 18:47	#362
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,494 Times View My Garage	GEt the rectifier plate and the regulator checked. These parts fail commonly. Cost will be around 1000rs for replacement of both. A new alternator costs 2500rs or whereabouts, so if the expenses are 1200+ go for a new alternator. How old is this alternator.
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12th May 2007, 18:50	#363
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	Ya Ishan you are right...normally if the car alternator give very high voltages about 30-40 volts if it is rotated at 3000-4000 rpm.....thats why there is a voltage regulation circuit present to drop the voltage so that it operates at 14 volts......now in the case when the regulation circuit fails the battery protects the car electricals by absorbing the high voltage....but battery cannot handle the high voltages for a long time.... Ajay Sir in your case it was the alternater which was giving out high voltages and the battery was holding till today till you heard the first pop....as the battery was gone the alternater was giving full voltages to every component of the vehicle which you operated.....you must tow your car to a good garage to get the alternator check else more thing are bound to get damage.....
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13th May 2007, 14:47	#364
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	Guys any place from where I can get original HID (xenon) bulbs.....as I need only the bulbs not the ballast.... Last edited by low_bass_makker : 13th May 2007 at 14:49.
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13th May 2007, 14:54	#366
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	nahi yaar tanveer in delhi and around one can get only taiwan and chinese bulbs...I want philips, hella, osram type of some standard company stuff...
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13th May 2007, 15:06	#367
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,494 Times View My Garage	AFAIK, philips and hella do not sell bulbs, except to OEMs. So you may have to go for lesser known guys like GE/Havell etc., Try autobulbs.co.uk
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13th May 2007, 16:11	#369
shazikon BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 391 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Ford ikon angel eyes Has any one used this?? Is this available in india??
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13th May 2007, 16:24	#370
Akshay1234 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,327 Thanked: 12,919 Times	it dosent seem like a straight fit onto the ikon. it seems a bit big. i doubt youll get this in india.
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13th May 2007, 16:32	#371
shazikon BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 391 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	well the website say its a direct fit.. This is actually used for the Fiesta MK5 (indian ikon) in UK.
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13th May 2007, 19:30	#373
Proxima BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 934 Thanked: 385 Times	Lighting for a Safari Hi guys, I have a 04 model safari which has OE bulbs. I want to change it because I am not too happy with its power when there is oncoming traffic. What do you suggest? Shall I keep thsm as it is and add a pair of fog lamps(my LX does not come with one) or shall I change the bulb? I think there are 2 bulbs in 2 enclosures, not like most other cars. Do I need to put in 2 pairs of bulbs? Please suggest. For whatever you sugggest, prices and where to get them in Chennai will be most welcome.
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