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Originally Posted by rrsteer Reading about a PS failure, grinding brake noise in a 1 year old vehicle will most definitely question 'peace of mind' in me as a prospective customer. And it is quite ludicrous if one assumes it should not. |
Peace of mind is something that varies from person to person really. If I am of the type who gets worked up over things easily then I may have a very fragile peace of mind. On the other hand if I am of the type who looks into an issue, once it occurs, in its entirety and try to understand the root cause I may be a little better off.
Someone looking at the two issues in vaccuum will definitly get tremendously bothered. However, for me, I knew about the universal brake grinding noise issue even before I bought my car. I asked M&M and they said they are absolutely aware of this and are working overtime to resolve this issue and will ensure that all the cars on the road get the issue resolved at the earliest FOC. Once I knew that this is not a sudden thing for a few (which is more worrisome) but an acknowledged issue by the manufacturer I was peaceful. I bought the car and in a day discovered what is meant by brake grinding. I waited it out and once the issue with the design was resolved I got a call and sure enough the problem was fixed for good.
Similarly when the PS failed for me I again worked the contacts and learnt that they seem to have a design issue in the initial batches and this is being rectified now. A proactive resolution for all is under consideration but as of now they are fixing it for anyone on a case to case basis. Within 3 months of that M&M has now gone in for a mass recall to fix the issue in the affected batches.
I did not loose peace of mind because I have worked long enough in designing complex solutions wherein the design may not necessarily work absolutely 100% flawless with 6-sigma precision from day one. However sooner than later those hidden shortcomings are identified and closed. That is more important to me. Also, I knew that people who will buy in another one year will get a niggle free car but on the flip side they will pay much more. I paid much much lesser than today's on road price and got a vehicle which had two issues which the manufacturer was gracious enough to accept and get them fixed. As a goodwill gesture and instill faith manufacturer waived off the kms on warranty and extended the warranty by another year as well wherein they promised to take care of any issue if it comes up free of cost.
I would rather buy from such a manufacturer than someone with a snobbish idea that they are doing a favor to me by selling me their car.
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Originally Posted by rrsteer Most people like XUV for what it proposes to offer. But let us be practical and acknowledge that M&M have not been able to provide a faultless vehicle from the start & even the newly delivered vehicles continue to be plagued with niggles. And while these are a source of nuisance to the owner, they tend to question the 'peace of mind' of others. |
When you design something from scratch and it is not an incremental improvement over the previous design this is bound to happen. The XUV something similar for M&M when you compare to what they have made till then. However, it is really exaggeration in my opinion when someone says that the vehicle continues to be plagued with niggles. This is based on my XUV and the 5 others in my office (of which 2 are Team BHPians). I have connected with them off and on (I know at least 3 of them well). In all cases I have realized that they are good with their respective vehicles and only issues are with the individual service station people who just seemed to get bogged down with the volumes and always try to do a rush job and end up making a hash of it at times.
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Originally Posted by rrsteer Service offered by a manufacturer also goes a long way in securing that peace of mind. As far as M&M's service is concerned, I do not know about what your personal experiences are but my experiences with a Mahindra dealer have ranged from bad to very bad.
You may be extremely happy with the service you get and the car you have bought, but there will be others who will tell you the opposite. And that is what causes a person to not have that peace of mind. The service level & vehicle quality needs to be uniform across the country, till then people will turn around and question the associated 'peace of mind' quotient. |
This service level issue is something M&M is trying to resolve. They have tried to create separate SS for XUV and Rexton. They actively pitch in if you just talk once with their regional contacts.
The problem is where you depend on individual private groups with their own people who service your vehicles. M&M is fighting that challenge (as many others have as well before them) with the "chalta hai" Indian attitude that makes our people complacent and defocussed at times. Smallest of things like when you give the car to them for a short while to attend and they return back a dirty car may matter to you. But unfortunately SS guys just do not understand the fuss as they are merely doing a job. They do not attach much value to it beyond that. They do not understand the concept that you can not make a perfectly clean car dirty when it is with you. If that has happened you need to clean it and then return the same. For them the car just came for a few hours or may be a short checkup etc and thus there is no way they can think that they may need to give the car a wash before they return.
See, it's a problem with the thought process. It will take a lot of time before those at the grass roots level are oriented to start thinking in such an intense customer focussed way so as to make a finicky customer happy. Till then every manufacturer will have to fight an uphill task irrespective of their organizational commitments.
Take heart from the fact that this is not a problem that is unique to M&M. Tatas have fought the same battle and are still doing so. Dare I say they are loosing badly. The VAG is no better. I have seen the snobbishness of their dealers myself. It's hard to believe that they can have an audacious belief that someone parting with a good 1 million rupees for a car will feel like kneeling before them because its a Volkswagen. Or that because they are Skoda they can do things the way they please. Hyundai and Ford have a different set of problem but one that again shows problems in pockets.