[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by DDiSLover

Indeed. However, the light flickering is the cabin light which goes off during cranking. I took this video in a hurry, when one of the doors was open, keeping the cabin light on.

I thought about the battery issue, but none of the other electricals seem to indicate any issue with power delivery at all. Therefore, I'm confused.

The loud clicking is the starter solenoid perhaps, so that much is working alright. The issue is most likely with the starter motor itself or the circuit or the battery.

[red_nemesis]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

The loud clicking is the starter solenoid perhaps, so that much is working alright. The issue is most likely with the starter motor itself or the circuit or the battery.

I also thought so. But that still does not explain the occurrence ONLY during cold start. It for sure is confusing.

Originally Posted by DDiSLover

I thought about the battery issue, but none of the other electricals seem to indicate any issue with power delivery at all. Therefore, I'm confused.

The only thing you can possibly do yourself at this point is check if both the battery terminals are well fastened and properly connected. It is the most likely point in Electrical system that would have been touched/changed post the factory QC check. They generally do disconnect the terminal when the car is in transit, see if it's reconnected properly.


For rest, you need to get it inspected by an expert.
Don't forget to update here about the resolution.

[DDiSLover]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

The loud clicking is the starter solenoid perhaps, so that much is working alright. The issue is most likely with the starter motor itself or the circuit or the battery.

Originally Posted by red_nemesis

I also thought so. But that still does not explain the occurrence ONLY during cold start. It for sure is confusing.

The only thing you can possibly do yourself at this point is check if both the battery terminals are well fastened ... Don't forget to update here about the resolution.

Thanks for your inputs. I'll check the connections. I've reached out to the dealer, trying to get a technician to come home to observe the cold start issue. Will keep this thread posted on updates.

Thanks again everyone for the inputs!

[red_nemesis]

Of late, I am facing an irritating bug while using Android auto.

I usually connect my phone to android auto to use maps and play music (either on Spotify or Gaana). Of late, while the music is playing on any of these apps, if I receive a call, the music starts playing on phone speakers after I hang up. No matter what I do after that, it won't play on car audio. But the strange part is, I can still control the song navigation from Android Auto/steering mounted controls.
The functioning goes back to normal when I reconnect to Android Auto next time.

I'm yet to test this with some other phone. I am currently using latest version of Android Auto available for my phone. This issue has come up very recently (maybe since last month), earlier it worked fine. I guess it might have something to do with the latest Android Auto update I did than with the car itself.

Anyone else facing/faced this here?

[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by red_nemesis

Anyone else facing/faced this here?

Yes I had faced this twice over last 4 years. Ones with a Sony AX5000, and then last year with the Nexon's HU. Its definitely an issue with the phone's software, not the car's HU.

In both cases - I cleared the Google Play services cache+data, uninstalled and re-installed Android Auto+update. It did resolve the issue. However - even today, as with most things about Android & Android Auto, I'm not 100% sure if it was the steps I took, that really fixed the issue .

[red_nemesis]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

In both cases - I cleared the Google Play services cache+data, uninstalled and re-installed Android Auto+update. It did resolve the issue. However - even today, as with most things about Android & Android Auto, I'm not 100% sure if it was the steps I took, that really fixed the issue .

Let me try this out.
I just went through some recent review/ratings for android auto on playstore and unsurprisingly found many fellow users highlighting same issue since recent update. I'll also try if I can revert to older version of android auto.

[red_nemesis]

Originally Posted by red_nemesis

Let me try this out.
I just went through some recent review/ratings for android auto on playstore and unsurprisingly found many fellow users highlighting same issue since recent update. I'll also try if I can revert to older version of android auto.

Tried it out with no luck as expected. A little web surfing took me to Android Auto community page where I could find loads of users reporting the same, dating as far back as June 2021. While they're acknowledged and forwarded the issue to relevant team (as per comments), there's no resolution yet.

So as of now, I can only confirm the issue isn't with the car head unit but Android Auto.

[DDiSLover]

Originally Posted by DDiSLover

Thanks for your inputs. !

Quick update:
I didn't face the issue last week, as I was deliberately waiting for 20s before cranking. The car was sent to the dealership and they kept the car for 4 days.

They could not reproduce the issue, and checked all connections, battery, starter etc. No issues found. The car has been returned. They promised to escalate the issue to the factory in case the issue crops up again.

I've had the car back for a few days now, and I can't reproduce the issue at all. Even cranking the car immediately in cold starts works now!

SA hypothesizes that the battery was probably weak since the car was new. He charged the battery. Hope that was indeed the cause, and it wont happen again

[ashokabs]

I have a Tiago XZ which I bought in Sep 2016. It has done only about 33000 km. I wrote a detailed review of purchase and short term ownership. There was one problem during the warranty period. I am referring to my own experience in which the fuel system appeared to cause a breakdown as well as others who have written about some jerkiness in fuel delivery in second gear. The complaint was about the car stopping and running only on idle but not responding to the accelerator. The net result is that car can only move at idling engine speeds - effectively a breakdown. I had reported that I had 3 incidents of this kind and finally after escalation to Tata Motors they put the team to work to diagnose the problem. I think they gave up in frustration but to satisfy me they replaced the throttle body by Bosch. After the replacement for quite some time there was no problem. However, it started appearing at random a few times. If I waited for 15 minutes the car would restart normally and I could drive on. This happened twice and on the third occasion I had to get the car towed away to the workshop. This was 5 years after purchase.

This time too the service adviser was tearing out his hair trying to diagnose the problem. The car was at the workshop for 48 hours. Finally I got a call from the SA and he said the car is ready. They have taken a long, long test drive and there was no problem so far. I asked what was the problem? He said that they got an error in the wiring harness and so spent a full day going through every bit of the wiring harness to locate the problem. Looks like they found nothing.

Once the car was returned I can report one significant change that the hesitancy that was there in second gear while speeding up especially when the car was cold disappeared. The fuel delivery was very smooth and the car felt smoother too - might be 'placebo' effect. I can confirm that a month later there is no problem whatsoever.

My consternation is about how the wiring harness fault could cause the fault. No one has given me any explanation. I wonder if there was some generic problem that others also suffered and which has not been articulated or explained by the service advisers or the company.

Suffice to say that I feel that whatever gremlin was there has gone away and the car is driving much smoother and better. Maybe somebody can decipher this conundrum.

[sravankrishnan]

Rear kicks out on rumble trips on my Tata Tiago.

It's a new car and I have been facing the issue from the beginning. I can feel the rear wheels stepping out on rumble strips, mainly on bends when the car is laterally loaded. Otherwise on straights it handles it well enough. The tighter the turn and the faster I go, the worse it is.

Incidentally, the tires were over-inflated on delivery. Such a kind gesture from them to give me extra air for free . In any case, I reduced the tire pressure from some 38 or 40 psi to the stipulated 36 psi the next day itself, so the tires are running the correct pressures. They are the stock 175/60/R15 alloys.

Now to someone familiar with the car this should be alright but I don't want an outsider to ever get a nasty surprise. Is anyone else facing this issue? Or has anyone faced the issue in other cars and what can be done to address it? Thank you.

[racer_ash]

Originally Posted by sravankrishnan

Rear kicks out on rumble trips on my Tata Tiago.

Not just my Tiago, but my dad's Figo D, my uncle's Ignis and my FILs Xcent too behave the same way you described. The only safe way of doing it is to take it slow. The rumble strips are mainly put before intersections where it's anyway advised to take it slow.

[tushky]

Originally Posted by sravankrishnan

Rear kicks out on rumble trips on my Tata Tiago.

. Is anyone else facing this issue? Or has anyone faced the issue in other cars and what can be done to address it? Thank you.

I used to face this issue in my Tiago after around 8000KM. I changed my tires on 32000KM and the issue have solved to my satisfaction. Still sometimes i feel it kicks out a bit.

[civic-dk]

This is a story about my quest to reduce the NVH for my wife's Tata Tiago XZA. We brought a red Tata Tiago XZA home in March 2019 (seems so long back with no COVID and all).

While we liked the car for the solid feel, what we (more specifically I, my wife isn't really bothered as long as the car looks good and it takes her from point A to point B without any drama, which it does pretty well) didn't like was the high NVH (Noise, Vibration, Harshness) levels.

Considering that it is a 3-cylinder 1.2 litre petrol engine and came with shoddy tyres (3 Goodyear and 1 Apollo, don't ask me how, but that’s what it had to start with), the NVH level was understandable. To improve the situation with NVH, I took multiple steps to reduce the various noises filtering into the cabin in sequence as below:

1. Got hood insulation with clips from Boodmo
2. Got underbody coating done at 3M
3. Damped all the 4 doors

After doing all the above, while the NVH levels had improved, I was still not satisfied and took the big leap (with a big hit on the pocket, paid a total of Rs.19,500) and replaced the OEM tyres with Continental UltraContact UC6 tyres. Took this opportunity to upsize as well from 175/65 R14 to 185/65 R 14.

So, the big question is, what did it do for the NVH. While the NVH did reduce with the 3 changes made earlier, after changing the tyres, it has reduced quite significantly, and the car feels more silent as well as more supple on the road.

[adisan]

Originally Posted by sravankrishnan

[h3]
Incidentally, the tires were over-inflated on delivery. Such a kind gesture from them to give me extra air for free .

Each time when I had requested the ASC to check the tyre pressure before delivery, I observed it was over-inflated. Mine is a Chevy.

[discoverwild]

Originally Posted by civic-dk

So, the big question is, what did it do for the NVH. While the NVH did reduce with the 3 changes made earlier, after changing the tyres, it has reduced quite significantly, and the car feels more silent as well as more supple on the road.

The older tyres were hard compound and hence more noisier, adding to the fact that one of them had a different tread.

The new ones are definitely softer and hence much more quieter. Tyres play a major part of the noise factor given that they are the only contact with the road. You can also add noodle mats from 3M to reduce noise from the road further.