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Old 26th March 2022, 23:05   #3421
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Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review

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• This idling start/stop system is going to kill turbos. I needed to take a break, so after hard driving on the ghat (with the engine & turbo steaming hot), I came to a halt and instantly, the engine just switched off!!! I felt so terribly bad for the turbo.
A regular urban executive will not mind about turbo getting cooked up due to oil starvation, how many cycles will it take to actually cause a problem with the mechanism itself?

In this case, had you Hit the Start Button instantaneously, would it have brought the oil circulation in effect ?
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Old 27th March 2022, 06:29   #3422
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Looks like a good idea but just for a few times. The spare wheel sitting with one's luggage may not be a permanent solution.

Also one would need to secure it using some mechanism, else it would move about in the boot.
True. it needs to be secured in some way, but for the odd high-luggage trip, it could be a useful approach. May be some Compass owners should try and report the outcome of such an adjustment.
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Old 27th March 2022, 16:36   #3423
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The Jeep Compass has come a long way. It was priced from Rs. 14.95 - 20.65 lakhs. As of today, it is priced from Rs. 17.79-30.72 lakhs (ex-showroom), darer by Rs 2.84-10.07 lakhs. The pre facelift missed features like auto-dimming IRVM, auto wipers & headlamps, lumbar adjustment, reclinable rear seats, LED headlamps, a sunroof, etc. The facelift solved these but yet ADAS, HUD, blind spot monitoring etc are missing. For the same price, you could get the bigger Alturas G4, a proper VFM SUV, or the XUV700, loaded to the gills and has AWD. However, it is yet a fan favourite if you want a hassle-free and robustly built SUV and can stretch your budget to 40-50 lakhs OTR (Damn you Fortuner).
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Old 27th March 2022, 19:35   #3424
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Hi all, any recommendations for dashcams for 2021 compass ( only one 12v in back ,). Anyone tried usb only ones where we can tuck wires neatly?
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Old 27th March 2022, 19:44   #3425
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Hi all, any recommendations for dashcams for 2021 compass ( only one 12v in back ,). Anyone tried usb only ones where we can tuck wires neatly?
I have been hunting for the same with no luck. The Liter socket at the back had made it difficult to find a dashcam. I checked on the hard coding part with the dealer as well & they confirmed that it will viod the warranty
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Old 28th March 2022, 11:44   #3426
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Slightly OT. The 8 speed AT box in Wrangler door has similar properties observed here. But once the RPM crosses 2000, then it is on its own element. Again, it gets confused once there is a need for a quick charge and overtake. Not to mention the initial jerkiness in the 1/2/3 gears and that searching of gears is obvious. Compared to the Prado's 5 box AT which settles in nicely and even does not need a kick down during a quick charge, 8 speed seems to be more confused with more ratios/options, I feel.

Also, another quirky thing with this 8 speed AT box is that, when we put it in Cruise mode, and I set it up around 126 kmph as per the speedo (actually it is 120kmph according to the GPS, the max speed limit highways in UAE & Oman), the gearbox keeps the gear at 7th instead of 8th. But once I bring the speed to 120 or 119kmph in cruise, then the gearbox stays at 8th gear. I thought there is a small difference of smoothness in the 8th gear and as well some FE improvement potentially. I assumed the kick down by the box could be due to the incline, but not sure.

To summarise, FCA need to refine their gearbox ratios or the tunings.

Finally, 35 lakhs for a 2 liter mid size SUV (as per overseas standards, this is small SUV, fully loaded AWD Petrol Auto costs around 16 lakhs or less in gulf), this is a absurd pricing. I remember the Compass pricing started at 14 lakhs around once for the barebone manual, and now, with some simple interior updates the price revision does not seem to be justified. A 2nd hand Fortuner is a better option IMHO.

FCA, wishing you the good luck for Meridien! :-)
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• This idling start/stop system is going to kill turbos. I needed to take a break, so after hard driving on the ghat (with the engine & turbo steaming hot), I came to a halt and instantly, the engine just switched off!!! I felt so terribly bad for the turbo.
Below is what they listed in the owners manual:

POSSIBLE REASONS THE ENGINE DOES NOT AUTOSTOP

Prior to engine shut down, the system will check many safety and comfort conditions to see if they are fulfilled. Detailed information about the operation of the Stop/Start system may be viewed in the instrument cluster display Stop/ Start Screen. In the following situations the engine will not stop:
Driver’s seat belt is not buckled.
Driver’s door is not closed.
Battery temperature is too warm or cold.
Battery charge is low.
The vehicle is on a steep grade.
HVAC is set to MAX A/C.
Engine has not reached normal operating
temperature.

The transmission is not in a forward gear.
Hood is open.
Vehicle is in 4WD Low transfer case mode.
Brake pedal is not pressed with sufficient pressure.
Accelerator pedal input.
Engine temperature too high.
5 mph (8 km/h) threshold not achieved from previous Autostop.
Steering angle beyond threshold.
Adaptive Cruise Control is on and speed is set.

Hopefully, they might have considered this ( though its not optimal ).

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Old 28th March 2022, 12:31   #3428
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Jeep Compass Diesel AT Review


• TL;DR = I’ll give the Diesel AT combination a 7 / 10 rating. The gearbox is smooth & easy to live with. If you're a calm driver or even one who pushes the car at 7/10ths, you'll be fine.
It seems the box is built for a purpose, and that purpose is to do off-roading, while being ok on the road. Of course, there could have been a way to be great on both fronts - opportunity lost!

Some interesting and unique behaviour noticed.
  • Brake hard, and the Compass holds the lower gear for longer time, even when you accelerate.
  • Let the car accelerate downhill without braking or pressing accelerator, and it will shift down and hold the gear.


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• Having no paddle shifters at this price point is a bummer & unpardonable.
100%, however, even if you had the paddle-shifters, one need to plan ahead. For example, a shift prompted by manual override takes almost a second.

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• Quite a small boot for the price, I must say! We were a big group, so we're carrying lots of food supplies etc. The luggage had to be spilt over onto the back seat. There was no way the boot could take it all.
My family hates me on this aspect, especially since our other car is a Skoda Laura.

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• Driving around in the city, on the expressway and around the village roads of Pawna, the Compass made me feel like I'm driving a "mini-tank". The car has a very, very solid feel.
The single biggest fun factor is the feel of indestructibility.

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• Coming down a fast ghat road, enthusiasts like us will stick to 'manual mode'. It will anyway upshift at the redline in manual mode, so you will use this mode primarily for commanding downshifts as well as holding the current gear. Although, it won't listen to your downshift commands about 1/3rd of the time (the tune is conservative).
Yes, one would end up using manual mode for overtaking and downhill - every time!

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• Using manual mode with the gearbox requires a firm hand; it requires effort to move the lever to the left.
Best way is to give a knock! This lever is not suitable to hold and move nicely, unless your arm has some unique muscles.


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• Considering the price point of this car, Jeep needs to make the NVH package more premium. Above 2,000 rpm, you feel mild vibrations on the accelerator pedal.

• This idling start/stop system is going to kill turbos.
Couldn't agree more on both points. I heard the NVH levels have improved over the previous model. Can't imagine what was the previous state.

Start-stop is a pain on everyday drive, especially coupled with the shake up and shake down. Switching it off is part of my "steps before I drive".

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Did you notice that the gearbox makes a typical grrr kind of noise when upshifting, especially when being driven sedately. Happens through 4th and 7th gear usually.

I have read about a number of cases where people have reported the same noise in the 4x4 AT variants. FCA terms it’s as operational sound from the dog clutches in the 9speed AT.

The gearbox is smooth however it does make a very unnerving upshifting sound when driven sedately where you press about 30% of the A pedal and let the car work it’s way up through the gears.
You are absolutely right. I tend to think the gearbox a bit too eager to upshift, even to the point of lugging the engine. May be a re-tuning is due. If you give the accelerator a bit more love, the gear box behaviour is better.

At the same time, this ZF box is supposed to give better fuel efficiency, even when compared to manual. I don't see that either.

I am enjoying the Compass 4x4 AT every time I drive it. It has brought down my urge to go fast, unlike when I am driving Laura Tsi. On the other hand, I care less about the road conditions. Overall, a relaxed driving experience.

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Old 29th March 2022, 09:28   #3429
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• Using manual mode with the gearbox requires a firm hand; it requires effort to move the lever to the left. Drive it and you'll remember my "lever of a vault door" comment.
I'm guessing this Auto to Manual shift, gear lever move was designed for the Left Hand drives. In which case your right hand, (the dominant hand in more cases than not) will not struggle as much as our left hand is right now.
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I'm guessing this Auto to Manual shift, gear lever move was designed for the Left Hand drives. In which case your right hand, (the dominant hand in more cases than not) will not struggle as much as our left hand is right now.
Dont think so. The gear lever is very firm even for my right hand. I think it is by design.
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Came back from another test drive of the Compass today, I wanted to share that the Sales person mentioned the Limited (O) variant will now also come with TPMS from the upcoming batch which is next month onwards and he also said that the Sports variant will be discontinued.

This second test drive was interesting, it was from an older(16k kms. run) Model S petrol and gave me a better idea of the car after some wear, this car definitely had suspension which wasn't as pliant as the first test drive I did(new'ish make and was lower variant) and the rear view mirror had creaks. Also, I could hear more road noise.
While a test drive model is known to be abused It's just something I felt I should share..
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Old 29th March 2022, 20:26   #3432
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Hello fellow BHPians,

I am new to the forum. Bought a Compass Limited diesel 3 months back.

Have been facing issues with connecting via Bluetooth to Android Auto. It connects fine while I'm connecting using the USB cable but fails sometimes through Bluetooth.

Has anyone faced similar issues?
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Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review

Friends,
I purchased a Jeep Compass Petrol AT Longitude variant this week.
Thank you for the feedback from many owners in these threads.
It helped me a lot. It offers all the features and creature comforts that I need with the convenience of an automatic.
Hope to put out a detailed review sometime.
Cheers.
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Old 1st April 2022, 12:04   #3434
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Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review

GTO, from your review I am left wondering - what is the trailhawk badging for if the car is essentially for highway driving and some bad roads on the way. would you take it for off-roading or choose the Thar instead (or the wrangler)?
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Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review

Guys,

One query regarding the Hill-Start Assist functionality - being new to the Compass I found it a bit intrusive on a couple of occasions today. When starting off from inclines, it feels as if the brakes are resisting you for a second or two and then releases suddenly causing all the build-up torque to surge forward. I can understand the functionality, but a couple of times I felt it alarmed me more than it helped.

Anyone else feeling the same? Or am I doing something wrong?

Car in question is a Limited(o) Diesel MT.
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