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| ![]() This might very well be the final nail on Ford's coffin in India. With the Fortuner set to introduce the Legender, the Endeavour is not even going to be considered with its less powerful engine and now with differentiating features like ANC being removed. Wonder why Ford and Honda are hell bent on driving themselves to go out of business in India. |
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![]() Agree on this one. Very surprising to see Ford make these blunders with such a lovely product as the Endeavour. | ||
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| ![]() Pathetic move by Ford. Ford in India is already in a crippled state and these kinds of activities will only cause distrust among potential customers. Especially when the brand is in lifeline support and is trying to bring back customers through a JV. Launching a new vehicle will less features to keep the cost down can be acceptable, but removing features from a well equipped vehicle for cost cutting is a bad move |
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The "upcoming lineup" as we know so far are CBUs namely the Focus and Ranger Raptor. There is news of XUV 500 sized crossover but we don't know if it would be launched this century. There were talks of an all new EcoSport in 2021 and no one has come across a single test mule for the same. Lastly, not to forget Ford's partner in JV which like a spoilt rich kid buys everything he likes in a toystore, only to dump them later. |
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| ![]() Really Ford? How much of a BoM cost reduction did you achieve by eliminating these features? It's even more baffling when you consider the volumes the Endeavor gets. You will delete scuff plates in a ~40L car? ![]() What do I think? Supply chain issues and Ford knows that Indians were the easiest and most gullible section of their customer base to be short changed. What a sham the Indian car industry is. The amount of customers buying products costing in excess of 30L and getting short changed is not even funny. Every OEM in the premium segment deletes features as and when they feel necessary. I can understand the high volume lower price segment doing it but not when you're charging > 0.5 crores for a car. As much as one feels that the Fortuner is expensive, it will eat Ford's lunch single-handedly. |
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Having said that, Ford still needs to stop deleting features. | |
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Currently, with the ANC working - I was earlier wondering if I could turn it off (if I buy the car), so that I could hear other vehicles/motorcycles/scooters trying to squeeze by while stopped or driving... This *will* happen - the Fortuner is updating styling and the engine - but I still need a full-time 4wd vehicle, so the best one would be the Endeavour... Last edited by Vid6639 : 25th December 2020 at 22:44. Reason: Merging back to back posts. please use edit option when replying. | |
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![]() I checked out a MY December Endeavour back to back with a MY November Endeavour today, to get an idea of the difference made by the dropped features. Here are my observations: a. Active Noise Cancellation DOES make a difference. While I could not drive the cars in traffic, the difference in levels of engine noise seeping into the cabin for both cars was quite evident. It was not a night and day difference but palpable for sure. b. The rear aux heater drop is actually a bummer, and much more significant than I thought! With the aux heater gone, one cannot get hot air from the 2nd and 3rd row vents at all, as there is only cooling function available for the rear a/c! I could get nice hot air from the 2nd row vents in the MY November car, both using the front console as well as rear heater controls but in the MY Dec car, the SYNC system only allowed blower speed to be controlled. Even with the climate control set to max (30 deg. C), the rear vents were throwing only cold air. This is going to be an issue in super cold climate conditions. Quote:
Looks like the concept of a "perfect SUV" is as elusive as that of a "perfect life partner" ![]() | ||
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The new Fortuner will have a black option. | |
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However, I still find that my "old" 2015 model Fortuner was my "perfect SUV" - even though it's safety was circumspect. I did appreciate another member's information (here on Team-BHP) regarding the fact that the 4wd used a Torsen differential - so it worked almost *exactly* as my old Audi 1990 Coupe & S4 Quattros - and was such a pleasure to drive! Just amazing, really. Absolutely no delay and full power/response on all 4 wheels... However, this Fortuner was recently flooded and the Toyota dealer sold me another policy which was not "Return to Invoice" - so I'm up the creek in terms of a repair! Not even sure it's worth the hassle - as water went in *everywhere*! (And I mean *everywhere*! (The only place we determined that the floodwaters did not ingress into was the engine block itself...) | |
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| ![]() Even though there's no replacement for displacement, I feel Ford will never upgrade the 3.2L engine to match the BS6 emission standards (would love to be proven wrong in case someone from Ford is reading this). With that, I'd be content with a twin turbo for the current 2L engine. Quote:
![]() As for the interiors, I actually prefer beige as it gives a roomier feel compared to black, which can feel claustrophobic at times. The maintenance effort for beige is a different story, though! | |
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