[cool_dube]

Cross-posting from another thread - hope it adds value to this discussion:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/suvs-...ml#post4965954 (MG Gloster vs Toyota Fortuner vs Ford Endeavour vs others)

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by LionX

From 2020 December, another set of feature deletions from Ford Endeavour.

Contrary to what is mentioned on the screenshot, front door steel scuff plates are deleted from all variants! Not sure what Ford India is up to!

[SuperFlyBoy]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

Contrary to what is mentioned on the screenshot, front door steel scuff plates are deleted from all variants! Not sure what Ford India is up to!

Does someone have an image of the front door steel scuff plates?

Can they be purchased separately?

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

Does someone have an image of the front door steel scuff plates?

Can they be purchased separately?

Yeah, available as standard accessory with dealers. What irks me is - how much did Ford save on this?

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by A.G.

Rear Heater removal - The rear HVAC has now been reduced just to AC and there is now only blower speed adjustment knob

A question on this - with only blower speed control on the rear, how does one control the temperature of the air coming in from 2nd and 3rd row vents? As far as I could see, the front console only allowed blower-speed control, and there was no provision to regulate temperature.

[SuperFlyBoy]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

A question on this - with only blower speed control on the rear, how does one control the temperature of the air coming in from 2nd and 3rd row vents? As far as I could see, the front console only allowed blower-speed control, and there was no provision to regulate temperature.

I haven't inspected the recent changed Endeavour, but almost all vehicles allows one to regulate the temperature for the console vents from the front control panel - which also changes the temperature for some vehicles that have vents in the center armrest/divider between the front seats, which provide vented airconditioned air to the second row seats.

However, only someone with the earlier Endeavour models can advise if there used to be a provision there for a knob in the same location (inbetween the 2 front seats) for adjusting the temperature for the 2nd and 3rd rows...

[Wanderers]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

A question on this -

The rear AC vents follows the temperature set in the front. This was typical feature in all old SUVs/ MUVs including past Fortuner and Innova. They only had blower/fan control for rear. I am not sure but current Fortuner and Innova still has only blower/fan control with additional auto button (auto is for fan speed) Only Ford was giving 3 zone ACC.

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

I haven't inspected the recent changed Endeavour,

Yes, earlier there were two knobs.
Ford has removed the temperature control knob from rear AC control. Not something that you will miss badly. My rear passengers never used the temperature control in last 3.5 years. Yes the missing knob looks bad, Ford could have designed the new rear blower/fan control from scratch but I guess the idea was cost reduction not cost optimisation.

[SuperFlyBoy]

Originally Posted by Wanderers

The rear AC vents follows the temperature set in the front. This was typical feature in all old SUVs/ MUVs including past Fortuner and Innova. They only had blower/fan control for rear. I am not sure but current Fortuner and Innova still has only blower/fan control with additional auto button (auto is for fan speed)

Well, just to note - my 2005 Safari Dicor and my 2015/6? Safari Storme both have second row ACs that have a totally independent blower function due to separate AC coils below the roof - and cool only.

They do not mimic the console AC temperature, unfortunately.

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by Wanderers

The rear AC vents follows the temperature set in the front.

That is logical, given that there is no other apparent way to set temperature for air coming out from rear vents. However, when I checked out a Dec made Endeavour, and set the temperature (via the front console) to 30 deg. C, the rear vents continued to throw cool air, while the front vents were spewing hot air. Quite weird! Does this imply that rear a/c temperature is "hard coded" and one can only control blower speed now?

[SuperFlyBoy]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

That is logical, given that there is no other apparent way to set temperature for air coming out from rear vents. However, when I checked out a Dec made Endeavour, and set the temperature (via the front console) to 30 deg. C, the rear vents continued to throw cool air, while the front vents were spewing hot air. Quite weird! Does this imply that rear a/c temperature is "hard coded" and one can only control blower speed now?

Ford probably removed a heater element in the rear AC blower area and kept the secondary compressor (usually located in the rear of a Fortuner - don't know where the Safari Dicor or Storme's are...but my older Tata Safaris had the best one - in the cargo area and the compressor was also located there with the fan/blower)

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

Ford probably removed a heater element in the rear AC blower area and kept the secondary compressor

Fair enough, but my query remains How does one control the degree of cooling for rear vents, if at all?

[SuperFlyBoy]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

Fair enough, but my query remains How does one control the degree of cooling for rear vents, if at all?

On/off - like my Tata Safaris? (The Storme has a console on/off rear compressor button, the Dicor just has a blower on/off switch)

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

On/off - like my Tata Safaris? (The Storme has a console on/off rear compressor button, the Dicor just has a blower on/off switch)

Which essentially means that one can just switch the rear a/c on & off, with a fixed degree of cooling and adjustable blower speed.

[cool_dube]

As anticipated, Ford India was waiting for Toyota to reveal the pricing for Fortuner facelift. Ford India website is now updated with new (2021) pricing for the Endeavour. Starting price (for Titanium 4x2) remains the same, with a hike of INR 35,000 across the remaining range. Not bad at all

[123.rishabh]

Originally Posted by haldar_siliguri

Incorrect. Aux Heating does not have anything to do with climate control zones.

3 zone has become 2 zone now, apart from that Could you please elaborate on whats the actual difference with AUX heating ?