[deepfreak15]

Originally Posted by shyamg28

Additional support for back, not sure what it does or whether it works.
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Congrats on your new gear. That zip is to connect your jacket to the pant so in the event of an unfortunate slide your jacket does not ride up leaving your skin exposed.

[shyamg28]

Originally Posted by deepfreak15

Congrats on your new gear. That zip is to connect your jacket to the pant so in the event of an unfortunate slide your jacket does not ride up leaving your skin exposed.

Thank you

I didn't mean the zip. I meant the additional padding, rather, extension of the part on which the zip is stitched.
It was mentioned to me as providing additional back support. Now I'm not really sure if that works or not and only the Stealth Evo seems to have that. The Storm Evo and below do not.

[deepfreak15]

Originally Posted by shyamg28

I didn't mean the zip. I meant the additional padding, rather, extension of the part on which the zip is stitched.
It was mentioned to me as providing additional back support. Now I'm not really sure if that works or not and only the Stealth Evo seems to have that. The Storm Evo and below do not.

Oh thats just to prevent the zippered connection from chaffing against the small of your back, no other purpose. The accordion panel is so the pant doesnt ride up your back when you go full tuck. Its pretty common across most brands.

Maybe the lower segments in Rynox dont have the jacket connection, some pants connect to the jacket via a clasp mechanism and wont have that padding.

[shyamg28]

Originally Posted by deepfreak15

Oh thats just to prevent the zippered connection from chaffing against the small of your back, no other purpose. The accordion panel is so the pant doesnt ride up your back when you go full tuck. Its pretty common across most brands.

That makes so much more sense! Thanks for sharing this.

Originally Posted by deepfreak15

Maybe the lower segments in Rynox dont have the jacket connection, some pants connect to the jacket via a clasp mechanism and wont have that padding.

All of their pants have the zipper to connect jackets but only the Stealth Evo has extra padding. Possibly just a differentiator.

[The Brutailer]

Hi everyone. I'm new to the world of riding gear!

Keeping in mind a limited budget (think max. 2k), which gloves would you guys suggest? Waterproofing is certainly preferable but not a must. And I am willing to go to 3-4k in the interest of higher safety but to be frank, that'll really stretch my budget uncomfortably.

Not sure if it's relevant but the helmet I'm planning to get along with this is: https://www.spartanprogear.com/colle...turbine-helmet

[sukiwa]

Originally Posted by The Brutailer

Keeping in mind a limited budget (think max. 2k), which gloves would you guys suggest? Waterproofing is certainly preferable but not a must.

Check this post (The Riding Gear thread) by fellow BHPian 'surjaonwheelz'. It mentions options for rainproof gloves; he has opted for RE intrepid whereas I have gone for Raida AqDry.

[deepfreak15]

Originally Posted by The Brutailer

Keeping in mind a limited budget (think max. 2k), which gloves would you guys suggest? Waterproofing is certainly preferable but not a must. And I am willing to go to 3-4k in the interest of higher safety but to be frank, that'll really stretch my budget uncomfortably.

Since you asked, let me see if I can help you select the gloves that you deem fit for your use. This comes from me buying a bunch of gear and learning about them after having bought it, so maybe I can save you some time and money.
First identify your use case city riding , highway riding , track days etc. Each type of gloves (or for that matter any gear) might be specific for one use case or could be ok for "most use cases". So best is to see what features are there in the gloves you have shortlisted and then buy accordingly.
For eg: City use only

The only protection you will get is in case of a slow speed tumble where instinctively we all stretch our hands out to break our fall. You will only save your skin from sliding off your palm and exposing the flesh below but that is the most common scenario within the city.

You might be alarmed that there are no hard parts on the fingers but that is the norm with city gloves very rarely do you end up with broken finger bones (not saying it cant happen), but if you think your riding style in the city warrants more protection go ahead. Also on a hot summers day these are much easier to put on and take off multiple times and that is another common city use case. Just note if you are going for a glove thats not fully leather especially around the fingers it HAS to fit like a glove (pun intended) right on the shop floor. There is no break in period.

If you have mix of City and Highway use (also if you think you will be riding most of the time at a good pace):

Consider something like this , the bridge between the little finger and the ring finger ensures your little finger doesnt detach itself (most common in high speed slides). Also you have extra padding

(some have hard protection) to protect your wrist from smashing into pieces.


If you have a lot of high speed riding this is another useful must have feature. Makes sure your palm does not slam into the concrete but instead slips away saving you from a fracture

Or at least has some reinforcement (this has slide and reinforcement baked into one)

Notice how I have thrown in words like "smashing your wrist", "Skin sliding off your palm" etc.... Yeah thats how critical these are so identify what your riding style and your use case is and then look around for the most affordable glove. Do NOT fix a budget in mind and buy what fits in that.

Now about water proof gear **My Humble Opinion**. Many years ago I remember when someone was going to the USofA for higher studies the first thing every parent (ok maybe most) went hunting for was thermal underwear for their kids. Much later in life when I went to the USofA I was scratching my head, unless you were living in a tent/cabin in the woods you had no need for thermal underwear, even during the coldest winters. So back to the topic of wet weather gear. I dont own a single item , sorry my ADV boots have Goretex but I didnt have an option as I wanted those boots for the hard protection it offered. I hate riding in the rain but that does not mean I have not been caught out in a torrential downpour. The first gear that gives up is my helmet visor. If I cannot see I will not ride and park on the side of the road, simple! If its raining and I can still see through my visor I have noticed my gloves, boots (perforated) , jacket (leather and textile) and pants (leather and textile) do get wet but if I continue riding after 20 minutes they are bone dry. If you are riding in jeans and tshirts then you should not be thinking about safety gear . Most important, if I go on 100 rides I might get caught in a downpour maybe on 2 rides, in my use case its not worth paying a premium for a feature I will rarely use.
What I am trying to say is, look for wet weather riding gear only if your livelihood depends on it (if you have to deliver parcels come hail or snow etc) or you are going to a place where you will have to constantly cross streams etc. They are very uncomfortable,frightfully expensive and no matter what the brochure says, fancy tech like Goretex deteriorate over time. Specifically with respect to gloves the more tactile feel you have the better and any weather proofing will rob you of some sensation! If I have confused more than helping I am extremely sorry but its easy to be swayed into thinking you need one feature at the expense of a hospital trip saving feature.

[Harshal.Bhosale]

Originally Posted by deepfreak15

Since you asked, let me see if I can help you select the gloves that you deem fit for your use. This comes from me buying a bunch of gear and learning about them after having bought it, so maybe I can save you some time and money.
First identify your use case city riding , highway riding , track days etc.
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What I am trying to say is, look for wet weather riding gear only if your livelihood depends on it (if you have to deliver parcels come hail or snow etc) or you are going to a place where you will have to constantly cross streams etc. They are very uncomfortable,frightfully expensive and no matter what the brochure says, fancy tech like Goretex deteriorate over time. Specifically with respect to gloves the more tactile feel you have the better and any weather proofing will rob you of some sensation! If I have confused more than helping I am extremely sorry but its easy to be swayed into thinking you need one feature at the expense of a hospital trip saving feature.

This is a goldmine of a post! So much useful information condensed into one post! Especially loved your reasoning about not preferring to use waterproof riding gear.

[ranjitnair77]

Originally Posted by deepfreak15

They are very uncomfortable,frightfully expensive and no matter what the brochure says, fancy tech like Goretex deteriorate over time. Specifically with respect to gloves the more tactile feel you have the better and any weather proofing will rob you of some sensation!

I think a middle-ground approach makes sense.

I live in Pune and the best time to ride is the monsoon and in the ghats. You will get wet on most rides. It makes a ton of sense to get a pair of Goretex boots and gloves. Dry feet and fingers make life a lot more comfortable. You generally don't feel hot in your extremities so they are perfectly functional in hot dry weather and very very useful on cold mornings to keep your digits warm.

Gore tex jackets on the other hand are too hot (at least for me). I prefer mesh jackets with a breathable outer liner which I can pull on when it rains. I have the Dianese Sauris D-Dry, which is fantastic and I' hope to buy the Kilm Baja S4 someday when I can justify the price

[ebonho]

Originally Posted by ranjitnair77

I think a middle-ground approach makes sense.

I live in Pune and the best time to ride is the monsoon and in the ghats. You will get wet on most rides. It makes a ton of sense to get a pair of Goretex boots and gloves. Dry feet and fingers make life a lot more comfortable. You generally don't feel hot in your extremities so they are perfectly functional in hot dry weather and very very useful on cold mornings to keep your digits warm.

Gore tex jackets on the other hand are too hot (at least for me). I prefer mesh jackets with a breathable outer liner which I can pull on when it rains. I have the Dianese Sauris D-Dry, which is fantastic and I' hope to buy the Kilm Baja S4 someday when I can justify the price

Exactly the same philosophy for me, probably also because I too live in Poona.

Sturdy leather full gauntlet gloves (DSG, RST) and full length waterproof boots (RST touring and Alpinestars racing) and pants with a lot of vents with leather reinforced panels (DriRider), and a strong preference for mesh jackets with proper CE armour (DSG) over the heavier (though vented) touring jackets (RST and DriRider).

Cheers, Doc

[deepfreak15]

Originally Posted by Harshal.Bhosale

So much useful information condensed into one post! Especially loved your reasoning about not preferring to use waterproof riding gear.

Hey thank you so much! Having spent a bomb on riding gear this would have definitely helped me save some money and time so trying to pass it on.

Originally Posted by ranjitnair77

I think a middle-ground approach makes sense.

I live in Pune and the best time to ride is the monsoon and in the ghats.

Oh I completely agree with you! Having lived in Pune for 6 years there are very few pleasures compared to an early morning weekday drive during the monsoons to Sinhagad fort or Mahbi. But again I am the type of person who would enjoy a drive and not a ride in that weather. So it all depends on what floats your boat. What I was alluding to in my post was when I bought my ADV a lot of people said now that you have an ADV you NEED a Goretex jacket and pants, you NEED AUX lights , you NEED a comm system and the list went on. So I ignored everyone , rode for a while and decided what I NEEDED and what I could do without (wet weather gear didnt make the cut for my use case). So was trying to guide the OP in the same direction.

[Romins]

Originally Posted by The Brutailer

Waterproofing is certainly preferable but not a must. And I am willing to go to 3-4k in the interest of higher safety but to be frank, that'll really stretch my budget uncomfortably.

I do a lot of rides in the rains. Here is a hack you could probably use.

I wear a pair of latex gloves inside the perforated full-gauntlet gloves if it is raining. It keeps my hands dry and it prevents my hands getting dirty.

[The Brutailer]

Originally Posted by sukiwa

Check this post (The Riding Gear thread) by fellow BHPian 'surjaonwheelz'. It mentions options for rainproof gloves; he has opted for RE intrepid whereas I have gone for Raida AqDry.

Thanks. Will go through.

Originally Posted by deepfreak15

Since you asked, let me see if I can help you select the gloves that you deem fit for your use. This comes from me buying a bunch of gear and learning about them after having bought it, so maybe I can save you some time and money.

Wow, so comprehensive and useful. Thank you so much for putting the effort to help so many like me understand the art of motorcycle gloves. Appreciate it.

Just as a context, I ride a KTM RC 390. While I'm no way a frantic rider, I do like to go to short burst of speeds every now and then.

RC is of little to no use on a highway, however I do love taking it to twisty roads on outskirts / hills to lean and exploit the dynamics and that's where I feel I can mess up.

So could you possibly suggest specific gloves for the 2 use cases (everyday city riding & weekend fast rides?).

I'm a complete noob so I went to a motorcyle gear store nearby and the guy suggested this.

What do you think? More importantly, what do you suggest? TIA!

Originally Posted by Romins

I do a lot of rides in the rains. Here is a hack you could probably use.

I wear a pair of latex gloves inside the perforated full-gauntlet gloves if it is raining. It keeps my hands dry and it prevents my hands getting dirty.

Brilliant tip.

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[neil.jericho]

Originally Posted by The Brutailer

Just as a context, I ride a KTM RC 390. While I'm no way a frantic rider, I do like to go to short burst of speeds every now and then.

RC is of little to no use on a highway, however I do love taking it to twisty roads on outskirts / hills to lean and exploit the dynamics and that's where I feel I can mess up.

So could you possibly suggest specific gloves for the 2 use cases (everyday city riding & weekend fast rides?).

I'm a complete noob so I went to a motorcyle gear store nearby and the guy suggested this.

What do you think? More importantly, what do you suggest? TIA!

The Brutailer, for better or for worse, there is no perfect option or answer to your question. deepfreak15 has highlighted the different types of gloves and their pros and cons. Personally, I find myself comfortable with full gauntlets and suggest the same for the bigger protection area that they offer.

Specific to the gloves you are looking for, I will say just fix a hard budget and stick to it. There will always be better gloves that give more protection at a little more cost. I will also suggest the CE certified Royal Enfield gloves like the Roadbound or the Vamos. You can check them out at a nearby Royal Enfield store. Also since you are in Bangalore, go to Orion Motors, Koramangala, for the widest range of riding gear products.

Try and buy. Happy shopping.

[deepfreak15]

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

there is no perfect option or answer to your question......
Try and buy.

Agreed!

Originally Posted by The Brutailer

Thank you so much for ..
I ride a KTM RC 390.

Thanks for your kind words and I'm glad even if it helped just a little bit. Motorbikes are funny things, some can make the most mature and logical person let their emotions run wild and you have a cracker of a motorcycle that would just egg you on. So I would side with Neil on full gauntlets with as much protection as possible. There are some gauntlets Rynox and ViaTerra sell, that on paper have all the features of a premium glove at a reasonable price. Check those out if you want, I've not used them so can't say how good or bad they are. (I'll explain further on)

Originally Posted by The Brutailer

I went to a motorcyle gear store nearby and the guy suggested
What do you think?

The only way to find out if safety gear is good or bad is to actually put them to the test in a real life scenario but I pray no one ever has to go through that. That's why there are safety standards like CE rating etc that tell you the product adheres to a set of standards and "should" perform as advertised. Manufacturers are creative, sometimes they might say their product is CE rated but fail to mention they are only talking about the armor inserts and not the glove itself or vice versa. These are things to look out for. On paper the product that was recommended to you looks the part. You have to physically feel it and try it. Do the seams look robust enough or will they split easily, does the material look and feel genuine, is the palm slider made of TPU (hard plastic) so it slides or is it made of rubber to look like plastic (this will cause more harm than good) etc. Try on a few, see what's comfortable, in your budget and go ahead.