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| ![]() India news: Sachin Tendulkar says it would be "selfish" to retire now | India Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo Quote:
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| ![]() Quote: Ind in SA - SRT had the highest aggregate and average - 326 runs @ 81.50. He scored 2 100's in that series - no other Indian scored a century. Ind in Eng - SRT had the 2nd highest aggregate - 273 runs @ 34.12 WI in Ind - SRT had 218 runs @ 43.60 Ind in Aus - SRT had the 2nd highest aggregate - 287 runs @ 35.87 So he is surely not at the top of his game - but at the same time, there would be a lot of other batsmen who would need to be dropped before him -Sehwag, Laxman, Gambhir etc. It's only now after 4 years that we have found a replacement for Ganguly - i.e. Kohli. Now that Dravid has retired - one more spot opens up. Let's try to find a replacement for him before we force SRT to retire. And a recent article by Manjrekar had an excellent point - we need to find 4 decent bowlers first - that's more important than batsmen if we have to win tests outside India. That's why we didn't win all that many matches outside India even when SRT, Dravid, Ganguly and VSS were at the top of their games. When India plays outside India, we usually have one good bowler (Srinath, Zaheer etc) and other duds - we would have to have 4 Bradmans batting for us if we had to win a lot of matches with that kind of bowling. We always won in India because we had a couple of bowlers who were outstanding at home (Kumble etc) and others who were decent. | |
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This is an excellent post. People dont realise how incredibly lucky we are to have Sachin play for us for the last 22 odd years. although I would argue Gambhir is the Ganguly replacement! Kohli is Dravid's (but he looks like he can be Tendulkar's replacement in the long run.) We still need to find a batsman good enough to replace Laxman (that means play like a superhuman against aussies and like crap against anybody else) India's weaklink, as you have rightly identified,has always been our bowling. sachin all this time has always been the easiest scapegoat for all/any failures in the last 20 years which is so pathetic of all of us. | |
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While Raina is a true flat-track specialist, Yuvraj can adapt, and is a sweet timer of the ball. In form, he can be very dangerous. People have forgotten so quickly that Yuvraj had a lot to do with our World Cup victory. I'd keep Raina and Yusuf Pathan strictly for T20s. And I'd give Robin Uthappa another chance. We need new bowlers. It's as simple as that. | |
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| ![]() ^^ Yes, but Yuvraj is a far better player than even Raina. He is no great. But he is a gutsy Cricketer. Like I said, he can adapt. And he can be effective with the ball too. And his record against England is worth a look. |
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Please look at my original post - I am talking about tests - I am saying no more chances for Yuvraj & Raina in tests. I am not sure what kind of 'adapt'ing Yuvraj has shown in tests. He has played only 1 match in England till date. As a bowler, he has taken 9 wickets in 37 matches. His batting average in 21 matches outside India is less than 30. His average in Australia and NZ in 5 matches is 18. His average in 4 matches in WI is 18. I don't know when he is going to adapt. | |
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| ![]() ^^ Thank you for that. ![]() Was under the impression that he has a good record overseas as well. If he is selected now, it would be great to see him d well, and replicate some of that WC success. I know, comebacks are never easy, more so for someone like Yuvraj. But he is known to make comebacks. Let's hope for the best. I have no faith in our Country's test-team. The only real 'test-players' India has produced in the last 20 years were Tendulkar, Dravid and to a certain extent, Laxman. |
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I personally cannot wait to see him bat again with his usual freedom. Watch out England, there is going to be some payback. Go Sachin Go, | |||
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Statistics are such a useful tool to portray any side of an argument. Specially when used standalone. Here is what happens when you use stats to do a comparison, which is what they should be used for. Quote:
EDIT: Just found out the stats page for the series. And i will give this one to Sachin. He was in a good form back than. Thats when he got his 99th ton, right? Quote:
He was only the 6th highest run scorer, with Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag, all three scoring more than him. Laxman even has an average of 99.33 Quote:
A "world class" batsman should be compared with other world class batsmen, and that should not be limited to only the country he plays for. It is undeniable the joy SRT has brought to the Indian cricket fans. What is sad to see is that there are more SRT fans than Indian Team fans. Last edited by amitoj : 26th March 2012 at 15:28. | |||
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| ![]() Read this somewhere after the England Tour. This was after Dravid played the role of makeshift opener in tests something that SRT does not do in tests inspite of doing so in ODI's(BTW he refuses to budge from No.4 position too) "SRT thinks that whats good for him is good for the team whereas Dravid thinks thats whats good for the team is good for him" So i am not surprised that SRT would quit when he desires because he believes that what he does is good. |
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There lies our biggest challenge. IMO some of the players in our team are not even worthy to be a part of state level teams in countries like Australia. While a player like David Hussey has to constantly fight for his place in the Australian national team, we give a free ride to the likes of Jadeja and Raina. To top it all we offer them millions of dollars to play in IPL. No wonder they have little incentive to fight for the country. Last edited by C300 : 26th March 2012 at 16:46. Reason: Formatting | |
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