Mahindra Scorpio : Issues & Solutions

getsurya · 29th April 2010, 15:32

Hi RJ, Mine was a pure case of oversight! The tyre after put down from the jack ought to be tightened again with the full weight of the car helping the way. THIS WAS NOT DONE & I get a SHOLAY scene out of my car

Below pictures courtesy:: iPhone-assembled in CA, made in China!

pramods · 29th April 2010, 17:13

That's scary!!! good nothing was around and you were driving at a very modest speed, I don't understand when these Service guys will learn to fix the problem first time, some time the second trip is really costly. If that guys would have done the job correctly you would have reached the office rather than cursing him for the shoddy job and the scary moment!!

Lesson learned:make sure you check the job done by service guys yourself and then only drive away!!!

-Pramod

raj_5004 · 29th April 2010, 18:03

Now this is pathetic! all this can be expected only from a mahindra A.S.S. you are very lucky as all this occurred at a slow speed. also, good to know that your scorpio is not damaged in any way.

now to think of it, why did you ever tip that guy?!!

4x4addict · 29th April 2010, 19:20

@getsurya:

Glad it was not any worse. You should inform Mahindra about this and raise a stink. That dork should definitely get sacked for putting peoples life at risk.

nitrous · 29th April 2010, 19:47

Hi surya
Did you need the on-call service guy to change a flat tyre?

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 29th April 2010, 19:54

can we have some close up pics of the wheel nuts, stud and the alloy wheel nut seat area? I hope you are using the "Dome nut" as prescribed for stock alloy wheels. Wheel nut Tightening torque is 90Nm in diagonal sequence.

Spike

mooza · 29th April 2010, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

can we have some close up pics of the wheel nuts, stud and the alloy wheel nut seat area? I hope you are using the "Dome nut" as prescribed for stock alloy wheels. Wheel nut Tightening torque is 90Nm in diagonal sequence.

Spike

Nice to know the torque values for this ! Was never mentioned in my manuals. I do not have a torque wrench to check this (is this expensive ?), otherwise I will have to work out the distance at which I can stand on the spanner while tightening, for my body weight

@getsurya, a very lucky escape !

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 29th April 2010, 20:56

not much expensive, usually when you hand tighten it fully it comes close to the 90 Nm mark, but always cross check with a torque wrench.

Spike

getsurya · 30th April 2010, 10:04

Pramods,

I was driving slowly(believe it or not- something was cautioning me that "all is not well"!!) on a road which I everyday do a minimum of 70+ kmph speeds! I was indeed lucky that nothing was in the front and rear of my car when all this happened. you should see the looks of passersby when they saw my car as the photo's show

Raj,

You are right, I tipped him thinking that somebody worked in hot sun to replace my flat tyre. was just being good, thats all!

4X4:: I have escalated this with my contacts, I am just proven lucky.

Nitrous, yes-I called the helpline to change the flat tyre as my health is not all in pink for me only to do it(which otherwise I would have done!)

Spike, I use the domenuts only for the alloys. I do not have any close up pics than what I already posted.

mooza, The next thing I purchased at the EOD on the same day was the torque wrench from TAPARIA!

mpksuhas · 30th April 2010, 10:33

This is heights of M.A.S.S servicing. Well, on brighter side you are lucky that the wheel didn't go and hit any other motorist or pedestrian and also that your beast got out without any further damage. Have you raised any complaint against the service guys?

.anshuman · 1st May 2010, 14:16

The brakes on our Scorpio VLX failed completely 2 days ago

, fortunately the car was at slow speed and my cousin could steer it to stop it without much damage. The car was taken to a Mahindra authorised workshop and now they have returned the car with ABS disconnected as they were unable to fix it, we are now waiting for Mahindra engineers to come and check the issue.

The ABS light comes on intermittently at times since purchase, This issue was reported since purchase but Mahindra workshops do not have any solution for this.

More so, the clutch has failed twice till date. The clutch master cylinder assembly has been changed twice under warranty. The even worse part is the Mahindra dealer in gurgaon is even more worse than most Tata Fiat dealers, we have to take the car to delhi even for small niggling issues.

Some other additional features offered in VLX like cruise control and TPMS have also given trouble in past. The Scorpio is still under warranty.

HappyWheels · 1st May 2010, 14:55

Thank God that the vehicle was at a slow speed! This is very dangerous, to the people in the vehicle and others on road!

There was a thread about M&M sending out a circular to their A.S.S to carry out some work with the brake lining; looks like there is an design issue with the brakes on Scorpio!

tanwaramit · 1st May 2010, 15:34

thats a very scary incident getsurya, glad that you were safe and the beast didnt incur any damages. If this would have been the right side tyre, it would have skidded on the concrete road causing more damage.

Really shocking of the work done by "hamesha Scorpio" guy.

aargee · 1st May 2010, 16:40

Horrible to hear this @Anshuman, Thank God you people are safe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by .anshuman

The ABS light comes on intermittently at times since purchase, This issue was reported since purchase but Mahindra workshops do not have any solution for this.

This is even pathetic to hear; I'm sure with a little money more, you could've gone for Toyota, but still you'd faith with good old Indian manufacturers & this is not the way they treat us; I mean, no solution is not the solution to be provided.

Quote:

Originally Posted by .anshuman

More so, the clutch has failed twice till date. The clutch master cylinder assembly has been changed twice under warranty.

Atleast one good factor is that its still under warranty, so no shelling out money. But revals the poor quality of manufacturing as well as QC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyWheels

There was a thread about M&M sending out a circular to their A.S.S to carry out some work with the brake lining; looks like there is an design issue with the brakes on Scorpio!

You're right. See the following post discussed on this thread.

ghpk · 1st May 2010, 16:49

You should write/call to head-office and ask for clarifications, request them to send some qualified engineer and get the vehicle thoroughly inspected as these repeated failures are life-threatening.

Also how would you tackle this once your warranty is over ?
looks like a lot of money waste can happen this way.

29th April 2010, 15:32	#1171
getsurya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,654 Thanked: 2,046 Times View My Garage	Hi RJ, Mine was a pure case of oversight! The tyre after put down from the jack ought to be tightened again with the full weight of the car helping the way. THIS WAS NOT DONE & I get a SHOLAY scene out of my car Below pictures courtesy:: iPhone-assembled in CA, made in China! Last edited by getsurya : 29th April 2010 at 15:34.
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29th April 2010, 17:13	#1172
pramods BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nagpur Posts: 993 Thanked: 858 Times	That's scary!!! good nothing was around and you were driving at a very modest speed, I don't understand when these Service guys will learn to fix the problem first time, some time the second trip is really costly. If that guys would have done the job correctly you would have reached the office rather than cursing him for the shoddy job and the scary moment!! Lesson learned:make sure you check the job done by service guys yourself and then only drive away!!! -Pramod
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29th April 2010, 18:03	#1173
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,169 Times	Now this is pathetic! all this can be expected only from a mahindra A.S.S. you are very lucky as all this occurred at a slow speed. also, good to know that your scorpio is not damaged in any way. now to think of it, why did you ever tip that guy?!!
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29th April 2010, 19:20	#1174
4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,497 Thanked: 4,651 Times View My Garage	@getsurya: Glad it was not any worse. You should inform Mahindra about this and raise a stink. That dork should definitely get sacked for putting peoples life at risk.
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29th April 2010, 19:47	#1175
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,964 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	Hi surya Did you need the on-call service guy to change a flat tyre?
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29th April 2010, 19:54	#1176
SPIKE ARRESTOR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,855 Thanked: 1,545 Times	can we have some close up pics of the wheel nuts, stud and the alloy wheel nut seat area? I hope you are using the "Dome nut" as prescribed for stock alloy wheels. Wheel nut Tightening torque is 90Nm in diagonal sequence. Spike
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29th April 2010, 20:56	#1178
SPIKE ARRESTOR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,855 Thanked: 1,545 Times	not much expensive, usually when you hand tighten it fully it comes close to the 90 Nm mark, but always cross check with a torque wrench. Spike
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30th April 2010, 10:04	#1179
getsurya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,654 Thanked: 2,046 Times View My Garage	Pramods, I was driving slowly(believe it or not- something was cautioning me that "all is not well"!!) on a road which I everyday do a minimum of 70+ kmph speeds! I was indeed lucky that nothing was in the front and rear of my car when all this happened. you should see the looks of passersby when they saw my car as the photo's show Raj, You are right, I tipped him thinking that somebody worked in hot sun to replace my flat tyre. was just being good, thats all! 4X4:: I have escalated this with my contacts, I am just proven lucky. Nitrous, yes-I called the helpline to change the flat tyre as my health is not all in pink for me only to do it(which otherwise I would have done!) Spike, I use the domenuts only for the alloys. I do not have any close up pics than what I already posted. mooza, The next thing I purchased at the EOD on the same day was the torque wrench from TAPARIA!
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30th April 2010, 10:33	#1180
mpksuhas Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: KA03/KL11 Posts: 4,149 Thanked: 8,408 Times View My Garage	This is heights of M.A.S.S servicing. Well, on brighter side you are lucky that the wheel didn't go and hit any other motorist or pedestrian and also that your beast got out without any further damage. Have you raised any complaint against the service guys?
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1st May 2010, 14:16	#1181
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,138 Times View My Garage	Complete brakes failure in Scorpio VLX The brakes on our Scorpio VLX failed completely 2 days ago , fortunately the car was at slow speed and my cousin could steer it to stop it without much damage. The car was taken to a Mahindra authorised workshop and now they have returned the car with ABS disconnected as they were unable to fix it, we are now waiting for Mahindra engineers to come and check the issue. The ABS light comes on intermittently at times since purchase, This issue was reported since purchase but Mahindra workshops do not have any solution for this. More so, the clutch has failed twice till date. The clutch master cylinder assembly has been changed twice under warranty. The even worse part is the Mahindra dealer in gurgaon is even more worse than most Tata Fiat dealers, we have to take the car to delhi even for small niggling issues. Some other additional features offered in VLX like cruise control and TPMS have also given trouble in past. The Scorpio is still under warranty.
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1st May 2010, 14:55	#1182
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,146 Thanked: 579 Times	Thank God that the vehicle was at a slow speed! This is very dangerous, to the people in the vehicle and others on road! There was a thread about M&M sending out a circular to their A.S.S to carry out some work with the brake lining; looks like there is an design issue with the brakes on Scorpio!
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1st May 2010, 15:34	#1183
tanwaramit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dilwalon ki Dilli Posts: 1,946 Thanked: 514 Times	thats a very scary incident getsurya, glad that you were safe and the beast didnt incur any damages. If this would have been the right side tyre, it would have skidded on the concrete road causing more damage. Really shocking of the work done by "hamesha Scorpio" guy.
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1st May 2010, 16:49	#1185
ghpk BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ghaziabad Posts: 872 Thanked: 213 Times	You should write/call to head-office and ask for clarifications, request them to send some qualified engineer and get the vehicle thoroughly inspected as these repeated failures are life-threatening. Also how would you tackle this once your warranty is over ? looks like a lot of money waste can happen this way.
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