Verna Trouble!

Mpower · 15th June 2007, 07:51

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Originally Posted by hellstar

I chose the second option because they assured me that driving the car does in no way affect the rest of the machinery in the car in the current state that it is in. i am not very sure about this because the sound i hear when changing the gears is the sound of metal against metal. Could somebody here who is familiar with the internals of the transmission system elaborate more of the functionality of the synchronizer so that i can get a better hold of the issue ?

syncros help meshing of gears by equalizing rpms. if its making metallic sounds who know its could be throwing metal pices into the trans.

Just dont use the 5th gear till its fixed.

Gurkha · 15th June 2007, 10:31

Do you get a metal to metal grinding or clashing sound, in that case, the output shaft might have been damaged when your axle came off, do not let Hyundai get away with this please.

hellstar · 15th June 2007, 11:07

hi @MPOWER and @GURKHA , please note that the sound is similar to the sound you will hear if you try to change gears without depressing the clutch. and the sound is heard only when i try to shift from the fourth gear to the fifth gear , the sound is heard and then the fifth gear engages, after this the vehicle performs as smooth as ever , without a trace of trouble. Sometimes the noise gets really bad and , the sound is believe me nothing short of heart wrenching

. If metal pieces are being thrown i believe that the sounds would be heard always right ?

Gurkha · 15th June 2007, 12:40

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Originally Posted by hellstar

hi @MPOWER and @GURKHA , please note that the sound is similar to the sound you will hear if you try to change gears without depressing the clutch. and the sound is heard only when i try to shift from the fourth gear to the fifth gear , the sound is heard and then the fifth gear engages, after this the vehicle performs as smooth as ever , without a trace of trouble. Sometimes the noise gets really bad and , the sound is believe me nothing short of heart wrenching

. If metal pieces are being thrown i believe that the sounds would be heard always right ?

Sounds like bad sync rings, have em checked before more damage takes place, try double clutching and making the revs match, if the noise goes away, surefire case of bad sync rings. I would also like you to drain the tranny oil and look for tell tale signs of metal flecks, run a magnet through the drained oil, if you see flecks of metal, have your tranny serviced ASAP.

hellstar · 15th June 2007, 19:05

@ Gurkha thank you very much for the info , I am just about to leave back for home and gotta try out the double clutching part , will check this and then the tranny oil part! over the week end and keep checking my mail for any response from HMIL , before i take this to the next level.

hellstar · 16th June 2007, 20:23

i tried out the double clutching and yeah it did work , so when i change to fifth gear now i double clutch, and there is absolutely no problem , but hell yeah i am not gonna live with this forever . I am still waiting for a response from HMIL

hellstar · 19th June 2007, 09:41

I did not get a response from HMIL till now so i mailed them again and this time also marking a copy to all my friends who happen to work in other MNCs

pogusingh · 19th June 2007, 09:47

Sam
Did you get any feedback from HMIL
-POGU

Sam Kapasi · 20th June 2007, 12:09

This morning, the car was taken out and the same exact loud grating sound comes from the Axel.

It's happened again.

To say I am upset, would be an understatement. I've beeb informed by the HMIL office in Delhi, that Ashika SIngh no longer works for them.
I've been asked to get in touch with Mr. Shyam Menon from Mumbai office.
I was handed over his mobile number. However after many calls, he did not answer his phone. I recieved another number then from the delhi office, which was answered by the reception and I was informed that Mr. Menon is in a meeting and will call me back shortly.
I am currently waiting for his call.

The Verna is parked at home.

suman · 20th June 2007, 12:13

This is unbelievable, bad news. Axels, gearbox problems, certainly not expected from Hyundai. What next Sam?

Rtech · 20th June 2007, 12:17

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It's happened again.

Whoa! A one off incident can be forgiven. But a repeat? This is rubbish. Lets wait and see what they say this time.

Vid6639 · 20th June 2007, 12:18

This is ridiculous. They better replace the car. i wouldnt demand anything lesser.

Don't even settle for a new axle replacement.

I say get monetary compensation and buy a car which aint like a boat. Optra Magnum.

horsepower · 20th June 2007, 12:19

Sam, why don't you approach Autocar? You must be knowing them real well. I can see JBL advertisement in every issue.

spadival · 20th June 2007, 12:24

Yepp.. better get the car replaced. Sounds like a serious manufacturing defect which cannot be repaired, atleast not permanently.

appuchan · 20th June 2007, 12:27

Hey guyz, me too getting scared now. Hell lot of problems reported for Verna. This is awful.

Fortunately, my car is yet to follow suit. Dont know when it decides the other way!

Think I did a mistake by favouring Verna over that ugly, ubiquitous NHC.

15th June 2007, 10:31	#167
Gurkha BANNED Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kalyani, West Bengal Posts: 444 Thanked: 10 Times	Do you get a metal to metal grinding or clashing sound, in that case, the output shaft might have been damaged when your axle came off, do not let Hyundai get away with this please.
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15th June 2007, 11:07	#168
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 44 Times	hi @MPOWER and @GURKHA , please note that the sound is similar to the sound you will hear if you try to change gears without depressing the clutch. and the sound is heard only when i try to shift from the fourth gear to the fifth gear , the sound is heard and then the fifth gear engages, after this the vehicle performs as smooth as ever , without a trace of trouble. Sometimes the noise gets really bad and , the sound is believe me nothing short of heart wrenching . If metal pieces are being thrown i believe that the sounds would be heard always right ?
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15th June 2007, 19:05	#170
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 44 Times	@ Gurkha thank you very much for the info , I am just about to leave back for home and gotta try out the double clutching part , will check this and then the tranny oil part! over the week end and keep checking my mail for any response from HMIL , before i take this to the next level.
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16th June 2007, 20:23	#171
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 44 Times	i tried out the double clutching and yeah it did work , so when i change to fifth gear now i double clutch, and there is absolutely no problem , but hell yeah i am not gonna live with this forever . I am still waiting for a response from HMIL
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19th June 2007, 09:41	#172
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 44 Times	I did not get a response from HMIL till now so i mailed them again and this time also marking a copy to all my friends who happen to work in other MNCs
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19th June 2007, 09:47	#173
pogusingh BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 226 Thanked: 0 Times	Sam Did you get any feedback from HMIL -POGU
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20th June 2007, 12:09	#174
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	This morning, the car was taken out and the same exact loud grating sound comes from the Axel. It's happened again. To say I am upset, would be an understatement. I've beeb informed by the HMIL office in Delhi, that Ashika SIngh no longer works for them. I've been asked to get in touch with Mr. Shyam Menon from Mumbai office. I was handed over his mobile number. However after many calls, he did not answer his phone. I recieved another number then from the delhi office, which was answered by the reception and I was informed that Mr. Menon is in a meeting and will call me back shortly. I am currently waiting for his call. The Verna is parked at home.
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20th June 2007, 12:13	#175
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 279 Times View My Garage	This is unbelievable, bad news. Axels, gearbox problems, certainly not expected from Hyundai. What next Sam?
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20th June 2007, 12:18	#177
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,486 Times View My Garage	This is ridiculous. They better replace the car. i wouldnt demand anything lesser. Don't even settle for a new axle replacement. I say get monetary compensation and buy a car which aint like a boat. Optra Magnum.
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20th June 2007, 12:19	#178
horsepower BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 281 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Sam, why don't you approach Autocar? You must be knowing them real well. I can see JBL advertisement in every issue.
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20th June 2007, 12:24	#179
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Yepp.. better get the car replaced. Sounds like a serious manufacturing defect which cannot be repaired, atleast not permanently.
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20th June 2007, 12:27	#180
appuchan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangy Posts: 642 Thanked: 27 Times	Hey guyz, me too getting scared now. Hell lot of problems reported for Verna. This is awful. Fortunately, my car is yet to follow suit. Dont know when it decides the other way! Think I did a mistake by favouring Verna over that ugly, ubiquitous NHC.
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