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Old 27th December 2009, 18:18   #556
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well badge on its rear says 200D
hehe I have seen 220D's allso the local industry is experts at graftings D's after removing S
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Mole, Sometimes the S are available very cheap, even though they are very much restorable. Heres one that may surprise you in USA.
Mercedes-Benz : 200-Series:eBay Motors (item 250551236654 end time Dec-26-09 13:44:28 PST) at Dirt cheap.
And this one ready in all respects!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
But a converted cabrio, though a RHD!!

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Old 27th December 2009, 23:12   #558
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Mole, Sometimes the S are available very cheap, even though they are very much restorable. Heres one that may surprise you in USA.
Mercedes-Benz : 200-Series:eBay Motors (item 250551236654 end time Dec-26-09 13:44:28 PST) at Dirt cheap.
And this one ready in all respects!
Mercedes-Benz : 200-Series:eBay Motors (item 130353588059 end time Dec-26-09 23:57:58 PST)
But a converted cabrio, though a RHD!!
Oh I agree since the recession hit the US prices of classics specially unrestored ones has dropped dramatically. Now if only we could somehow import these beauties.
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oh ok, thanks for correcting me v16 sir and star-man, are spares becoming difficult to source for the vintage mercs?

a few pics of a 180 ponton i spotted a while back:
The 180 Ponton is awsome , I remember the Ponton which was used by Arch Bishop of thrissur
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Old 30th December 2009, 14:40   #560
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110/200d

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Again there was no 200D only 190D in the fintype series so check whether the engine is original, Believe it or not I have even come accross dieselised 220S's where the owners were arguing with me how diesel engines were original to the 6 cylinder bodytypes (sic)
Hai,
sorry don't agree with you sir, the 110/200D(fintail) was produced from 1965 to 1968, engine designation OM615.This was the first diesel engine from Mercedes with five main bearings and was a huge improvement from the 190 D three main bearing engines, very smooth running and comparatively silent.These engines with cyl.head and fuel injection system modifications remained in production till 1985 in the 123 series.The 240D/OM616,300D/OM617 are from the same family of engines.
The KLY fintail in the pics was originally a twin carb/4cyl.petrol/200, used to belong to a coir export company from Shertallay,.In the old days, this was one of the finest fintails around,dark blue black colour and the gleaming chrome used to be a real headturner.Was sold to someone near Trivandrum and was converted with a Mercedes diesel engine.The car was advertised for sale and I did take a look,was not to my taste and I did not make an offer.This car has some 115 interior parts, must be the last of the fintails.A friends father had a similiar 1968/110/200 with the same fittings and was an original floor shift.
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Again there was no 200D only 190D in the fintype series so check whether the engine is original, Believe it or not I have even come accross dieselised 220S's where the owners were arguing with me how diesel engines were original to the 6 cylinder bodytypes (sic)
Amol there was a W110 200d.
There was the 190 c and 190 D c from 1961-1965.
The 200 and 200 D from 1965-1968
The 230 and 230 S also from 1965-1968.

Refered from the Book Mercedes-Benz Personenwagen 1886 to 1986 by Werner Oswald

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Hai,
sorry don't agree with you sir, the 110/200D(fintail) was produced from 1965 to 1968, engine designation OM615.This was the first diesel engine from Mercedes with five main bearings and was a huge improvement from the 190 D three main bearing engines, very smooth running and comparatively silent.These engines with cyl.head and fuel injection system modifications remained in production till 1985 in the 123 series.The 240D/OM616,300D/OM617 are from the same family of engines.
The KLY fintail in the pics was originally a twin carb/4cyl.petrol/200, used to belong to a coir export company from Shertallay,.In the old days, this was one of the finest fintails around,dark blue black colour and the gleaming chrome used to be a real headturner.Was sold to someone near Trivandrum and was converted with a Mercedes diesel engine.The car was advertised for sale and I did take a look,was not to my taste and I did not make an offer.This car has some 115 interior parts, must be the last of the fintails.A friends father had a similiar 1968/110/200 with the same fittings and was an original floor shift.
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, but the only thing in question is the book states the engine designation for the W110/200D (Fintail) as OM 621 VIII

Refered from the above mentioned book.
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Saw this Merc in my Garage... Fitted with a Bajaj Tempo engine.
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Arun,
This is an early/mid 70s W115 Merc. Common to find these Dieselised!
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It was a common trend of people to fit these engines from the original petrol engines to make driving the car more economical.But Mercs are know to be very economical cars even with the petrol engines compared to the other cars and specially compared to the american cars.
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heres few pics of a fintail
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Nice looking Fintail but more interesting is that big vintage sedan to be seen in the background. Any idea what car it is, also please see if you can get pics of it and post them too.
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Saw this Merc in my Garage... Fitted with a Bajaj Tempo engine.
OMG 616 engine, the tempo engine is again a copy of a mercedes engine.

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Nice looking Fintail but more interesting is that big vintage sedan to be seen in the background. Any idea what car it is, also please see if you can get pics of it and post them too.
The car behind the Fintail may be a 2CV.

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OMG 616 engine, the tempo engine is again a copy of a mercedes engine.
As we all know, Mercedes-Benz formed a joint venture in the 1950's and manufactured commercial vehicles. The collaboration agreement expired, thereafter Mercedes were only a stake holder. The next project was the Tempo Traveller which was set up for Bajaj Tempo and not Telco. For the Traveller they produced this engine many of which found their way into Mercedes passenger cars when these cars were dieselised. You cannot describe these engines as copies, the collaboration or transfer of technology, whatever agreement they had, was official.

BTW, totally , but very very relevant, I am using multiple quotes so as not to increase my number of posts unnecessarily. There must be a distinction between the number of posts and their quality!

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As we all know, Mercedes-Benz formed a joint venture in the 1950's and manufactured commercial vehicles. The collaboration agreement expired, thereafter Mercedes were only a stake holder. The next project was the Tempo Traveller which was set up for Bajaj Tempo and not Telco. For the Traveller they produced this engine many of which found their way into Mercedes passenger cars when these cars were dieselised. You cannot describe these engines as copies, the collaboration or transfer of technology, whatever agreement they had, was official.
Haritji,

Thanks for correction, I meant the same.
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The car behind the Fintail may be a 2CV.
Harit, I'm afraid that doesn't look like a 2CV, although it's understandable why you think so - the sharply-sloping rear shape could appear 'somewhat similar', although not the proportions, at first glance. To me it appears more like a high-end British marque, maybe a mid to late 40s Bentley.

By the way, there's another car, a real vintage, also next to it.

Happy New Year to you and all!

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